On 28 Jul 2009, at 07:07, Sérgio Neves wrote:
Hi,
Since we are talking about close buttons, I don't want to miss the
oportunity to ask why the majority of applications use only one
button, the
close, when in fact they should use an ok button and a cancell
button. I ask
this not because Ms W
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 07:07 +0100, Sérgio Neves wrote:
> Hi,
> Since we are talking about close buttons, I don't want to miss the
> oportunity to ask why the majority of applications use only one button, the
> close, when in fact they should use an ok button and a cancell button. I ask
> this no
Steve Lee wrote:
> Such rules are hard to enforce when they are up to individual
> developers' diligence.
And this specific rule can't apply to actions that are irreversible.
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> this not because Ms Windows applications uses it all the time, but because
> there is one rule of interface design saying that it may be possible for us
> to undo any changes we have made. Clearly, most of gnome applications don't
> obey this rule. Why does it happen?
Indeed I seem to recall tha
ot;Calum Benson"
To: "Eitan Isaacson"
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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Close buttons in dialogs
On 24 Jul 2009, at 17:46, Eitan Isaacson wrote:
> So I just changed my mind about this. Of course, this is as long as
> all
> dialogs could consistentl
On 24 Jul 2009, at 17:46, Eitan Isaacson wrote:
So I just changed my mind about this. Of course, this is as long as
all
dialogs could consistently be dismissed with escape.
Welcome to another controversy :)
The GNOME UI guidelines say that Escape should only ever be bound to
Cancel, and
Hi Calum.
I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. What's going through
my mind, however, is:
1. While a user who has never used a gui before might not be aware that
Escape exits out of dialog boxes, I suspect most users who are blind are
aware of this.
2. There are a lot of fundament
I feel kind of silly for only discovering it now. But pressing escape to
dismiss a dialog has escaped me all these years (pun!). I think that solves
the discoverablity issue, and makes it less of a problem. If someone is
stuck in a modal dialog, all they have to do is press the escape (aka panic)
b
Hi all
Agree +1 Eitan's comment.
A person that can use a mouse and see the window buttons to close is redundant
the close button in the GUI, but if I was a beginner I don't know that there is
these ways of closing this dialogs and less I don't know that with esc, or alt
+f4 I can close it.
An
2009/7/23 Eitan Isaacson :
> Close buttons are good for
> screen reader users because it puts the dialog dismissal as part of the
> focus order (and work order), and thus discoverable.
> Currently a keyboard user could get by without knowing about alt+f4 at all,
> I could see it being frustrating
I personally could scrap them at no real detrament.
On Jul 23, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Calum Benson wrote:
Hi all,
One question I was asked at GUADEC this year was regarding the old
chestnut of Close buttons in the bottom corner of instant-apply
dialogs, which some designers (including Apple's,
I don't see how things really changed since. Close buttons are good for
screen reader users because it puts the dialog dismissal as part of the
focus order (and work order), and thus discoverable.
Currently a keyboard user could get by without knowing about alt+f4 at all,
I could see it being frus
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