Re: [g-a-devel] [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-04 Thread Francesco Fumanti
At 10:39 AM + 11/2/07, Steve Lee wrote: >Here's a suggested feature from Simon over at www.oatsoft.org (he >asked me to post them as I'm on the list). > >"One thing that would also be interesting to add would be a tremor-zoom... >if you click somewhere, it magnifies that (say 20*20) area of the

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-02 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: The spec Calum is referring to is at the following URL: http://accessibility.freestandards.org/a11yspecs/kbd/keyboard-access-func-spec.html In particular, the "Configuration and Setting Requirements" table contains the most pertinent information with respect to what needs to be adjusta

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Denis Washington
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 18:24 +0100, Jens Granseuer wrote: > On 31.10.2007 14:54, Denis Washington wrote: > > I have made a mockup that integrates Mousetweaks settings into the mouse > > capplet: > > > > http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/mouse.html > > > > I hope I haven't forgotten everything. Co

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Denis Washington
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 16:54 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On 31 Oct 2007, at 13:54, Denis Washington wrote: > > > > > I have made a mockup that integrates Mousetweaks settings into the > > mouse > > capplet: > > > > http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/mouse.html > > > > I hope I haven't forgotten

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Denis Washington
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:44 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 19:20 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le samedi 13 octobre 2007, à 14:25 +0200, Francesco Fumanti a écrit : > > > Hello, > > > > > > During the accessibility summit last weekend, an new accessibility > > > application c

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Jens Granseuer
On 31.10.2007 14:54, Denis Washington wrote: > I have made a mockup that integrates Mousetweaks settings into the mouse > capplet: > > http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/mouse.html > > I hope I haven't forgotten everything. Comments? You forgot to tell that you've made a mockup for keyboard, too:

Re: Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Jens Granseuer
On 31.10.2007 13:44, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 19:20 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > > Le samedi 13 octobre 2007, à 14:25 +0200, Francesco Fumanti a écrit : > > > During the accessibility summit last weekend, an new accessibility > > > application called Mousetweaks was presented: >

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Kirk Bridger
My thoughts are does it matter what widget I'm interacting with when I see a cursor?  If I see a text-related cursor, it should either blink or not.  The mouse cursor here doesn't count obviously - is there another name for it than cursor to distinguish between the text and mouse cursor?  I don

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Kirk Bridger
In terms of the a11y tab and feature, I wouldn't tie it in as suggested on that page.  I may have it default to one setting or the other based on whether or not the a11y feature is enabled in Gnome, but not restrict it to using that setting.  Users may want to employ some or all of the mouse a1

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Gerd Kohlberger
Jens Granseuer wrote: > On 31.10.2007 14:54, Denis Washington wrote: >> I have made a mockup that integrates Mousetweaks settings into the mouse >> capplet: >> >> http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/mouse.html >> >> I hope I haven't forgotten everything. Comments? > > You forgot to tell that you've

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Willie Walker
I definitely like the mockups -- nice work! Regarding the mouse keys settings, one needs to take into consideration that the target users of this are people with differing physical abilities who may need finer control over the parameters. This might possibly result in more knobs and dials, but

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Caleb Marcus
Actually, after more experimentation, it seems that my last message is incorrect about the functions of the two sliders... and I've also come to the conclusion that I'll never get my mouse settings just right again. Yeah, this is definitely something that needs to be fixed, UI-wise. On Wed, 2007-10

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Caleb Marcus
They both do different things... I think that Sensitivity controls the cursor speed when the mouse is moving fast, and Acceleration changes when it switches off to the different speed... whatever they do, it's unintuitive and should definitely be overhauled. On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 22:09 +, Thoma

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Calum Benson
On 1 Nov 2007, at 12:32, Kirk Bridger wrote: > My thoughts are does it matter what widget I'm interacting with > when I see a cursor? If I see a text-related cursor, it should > either blink or not. The mouse cursor here doesn't count obviously > - is there another name for it than cursor

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Calum Benson
On 1 Nov 2007, at 12:45, Willie Walker wrote: > Anyway, my main point is to ask real users about what tasks they > typically want to accomplish with mouse keys. Then, figure out the > best > UI that provides the user with the ability to customize mouse keys > behavior so they can accomplish th

Re: Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-01 Thread Calum Benson
On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 14:25 +0200, Francesco Fumanti wrote: > PS: I CC'd this email to various lists; I hope it will not be a problem. Well, we're having to manually approve all the posts to the usability list because they have too many recipients :/ Since this is specifically about accessibil

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-10-31 Thread Thomas Wood
On 31 Oct 2007, at 13:54, Denis Washington wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:44 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote: >> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 19:20 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: >>> Le samedi 13 octobre 2007, à 14:25 +0200, Francesco Fumanti a écrit : Hello, [...] I have made a mockup that integra

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-10-31 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 16:54 +, Calum Benson wrote: > On 31 Oct 2007, at 13:54, Denis Washington wrote: > > > > > I have made a mockup that integrates Mousetweaks settings into the > > mouse > > capplet: > > > > http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/mouse.html > > > > I hope I haven't forgotten e

Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-10-31 Thread Calum Benson
On 31 Oct 2007, at 13:54, Denis Washington wrote: > > I have made a mockup that integrates Mousetweaks settings into the > mouse > capplet: > > http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/mouse.html > > I hope I haven't forgotten everything. Comments? Tab names need some thought, but otherwise looks qu

Re: Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-10-31 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 19:20 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le samedi 13 octobre 2007, à 14:25 +0200, Francesco Fumanti a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > During the accessibility summit last weekend, an new accessibility > > application called Mousetweaks was presented: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives

Re: Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-10-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Le samedi 13 octobre 2007, à 14:25 +0200, Francesco Fumanti a écrit : > Hello, > > During the accessibility summit last weekend, an new accessibility > application called Mousetweaks was presented: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-devel/2007-October/msg00022.html > > In order t

Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-10-13 Thread Francesco Fumanti
Hello, During the accessibility summit last weekend, an new accessibility application called Mousetweaks was presented: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-devel/2007-October/msg00022.html In order to make it more gnome conform, its user interface will probably have to be reviewe