Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-28 Thread Calum Benson
On 28 Jul 2009, at 07:07, Sérgio Neves wrote: Hi, Since we are talking about close buttons, I don't want to miss the oportunity to ask why the majority of applications use only one button, the close, when in fact they should use an ok button and a cancell button. I ask this not because Ms W

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-28 Thread Brad Taylor
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 07:07 +0100, Sérgio Neves wrote: > Hi, > Since we are talking about close buttons, I don't want to miss the > oportunity to ask why the majority of applications use only one button, the > close, when in fact they should use an ok button and a cancell button. I ask > this no

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-28 Thread Jason White
Steve Lee wrote: > Such rules are hard to enforce when they are up to individual > developers' diligence. And this specific rule can't apply to actions that are irreversible. ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.or

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-27 Thread Steve Lee
> this not because Ms Windows applications uses it all the time, but because > there is one rule of interface design saying that it may be possible for us > to undo any changes we have made. Clearly, most of gnome applications don't > obey this rule. Why does it happen? Indeed I seem to recall tha

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-27 Thread Sérgio Neves
ot;Calum Benson" To: "Eitan Isaacson" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Close buttons in dialogs On 24 Jul 2009, at 17:46, Eitan Isaacson wrote: > So I just changed my mind about this. Of course, this is as long as > all > dialogs could consistentl

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-27 Thread Calum Benson
for cancel (I don't know why) :-). Regards, Javier -Mensaje original- De: gnome-accessibility-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto: gnome-accessibility-list-boun...@gnome.org] En nombre de Calum Benson Enviado el: jueves, 23 de julio de 2009 18:14 Para: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org Asunt

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-24 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hi Calum. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. What's going through my mind, however, is: 1. While a user who has never used a gui before might not be aware that Escape exits out of dialog boxes, I suspect most users who are blind are aware of this. 2. There are a lot of fundament

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-24 Thread Eitan Isaacson
e.org] En nombre de Calum Benson > Enviado el: jueves, 23 de julio de 2009 18:14 > Para: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > Asunto: Close buttons in dialogs > > > Hi all, > > One question I was asked at GUADEC this year was regarding the old > chestnut of Close buttons in

RE: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-24 Thread Dorado Martínez , Francisco Javier
e-accessibility-list-boun...@gnome.org] En nombre de Calum Benson Enviado el: jueves, 23 de julio de 2009 18:14 Para: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org Asunto: Close buttons in dialogs Hi all, One question I was asked at GUADEC this year was regarding the old chestnut of Close buttons in the bott

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-23 Thread Steve Lee
2009/7/23 Eitan Isaacson : > Close buttons are good for > screen reader users because it puts the dialog dismissal as part of the > focus order (and work order), and thus discoverable. > Currently a keyboard user could get by without knowing about alt+f4 at all, > I could see it being frustrating

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-23 Thread David Poehlman
I personally could scrap them at no real detrament. On Jul 23, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Calum Benson wrote: Hi all, One question I was asked at GUADEC this year was regarding the old chestnut of Close buttons in the bottom corner of instant-apply dialogs, which some designers (including Apple's,

Re: Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-23 Thread Eitan Isaacson
I don't see how things really changed since. Close buttons are good for screen reader users because it puts the dialog dismissal as part of the focus order (and work order), and thus discoverable. Currently a keyboard user could get by without knowing about alt+f4 at all, I could see it being frus

Close buttons in dialogs

2009-07-23 Thread Calum Benson
Hi all, One question I was asked at GUADEC this year was regarding the old chestnut of Close buttons in the bottom corner of instant-apply dialogs, which some designers (including Apple's, if you look at their OS X system preference dialogs) consider to be an unpleasantly- redundant featur