Re: D-BUS based magnification API

2007-08-30 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: > Assume that without GL, we can have a magnifier of quality 5, and with > GL a magnifier of quality 10 (just an assumption for sake of argument, > please bear with me). Since GL now runs on even somewhat older video > hardware, and you can get a GL card for not much money if

Re: [g-a-devel] Status of IBM a11y

2007-06-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Janina Sajka wrote: > It should be clear that we cannot deliver accessibility to end users > based on wishes or on theory. We need solid, reliable, working > implementations. Until those are available in dbus, it would be > irresponsible in the extreme to abandon the existing working Corba > implem

Re: [g-a-devel] Status of IBM a11y

2007-06-04 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Ariel Rios wrote: >> I am not very familiar with the ATK/AT-SPI implementations but I am >> aware that these implementations are not compatible with the KDE >> architecture, and a general move to DBUS has been often mentioned. >> The GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initative could be the opportunity to >>

Re: [g-a-devel] Taking access forward (was: Status of IBM a11y)

2007-06-02 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi Peter, Thanks for taking the long view on this and asking good questions on how we can increase the constructive activity within our community. Peter Korn wrote: > One place I continue hoping will become a real source of energy are the > disability organizations - like various national organ

Re: [g-a-devel] Status of IBM a11y

2007-06-02 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 2 Jun 2007 at 20:18, Jason White wrote: > > >> 6. Learn Python! This is the scripting language used by Orca, and >> there is good documentation available on the Web. I haven't learned >> Python in depth >> > > Do you know if there's a "dummies guide to python"?

Re: what is AT-SPI ?

2007-05-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Gautam Ravi wrote: > > Is AT-SPI a protocol ? or Daemon ? .. Is it very essential ? > Can I do without this? > Will my custom widget be accessible without this layer? or Should I > also install this in to my system? Your custom widgets will only be accessible when AT-SPI is running, but your widg

Re: Accessibility of gnome-controlcenter?

2007-01-15 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Calum Benson wrote: > On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 16:03 -0500, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've noticed that by default in Feisty, the administration menu seems to be >> gone, and all of the functions it contained can now be accessed via the >> gnome-control-center. >> > > FWIW, this

Re: Accessibility of gnome-controlcenter?

2007-01-14 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hi all, > > I've noticed that by default in Feisty, the administration menu seems to be > gone, and all of the functions it contained can now be accessed via the > gnome-control-center. My concern is that unless I'm missing something, > there doesn't seem to be a way to nav

Re: gnome-terminal crash in Feisty

2007-01-08 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > Kenny Hitt wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I haven't figured out a way to run gnome-terminal under gdb with speech. >> Since all terminals close during the crash, I can't use gnome-terminal. >> If I use xterm to run gdb, I don

Re: gnome-terminal crash in Feisty

2007-01-08 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > I haven't figured out a way to run gnome-terminal under gdb with speech. > Since all terminals close during the crash, I can't use gnome-terminal. > If I use xterm to run gdb, I don't have access to gdb. Any ideas on how > to get a stack trace would be apreciated. >

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-07 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Brian Cameron wrote: > > I suppose it might be possible to code an on-screen keyboard directly > into GDM, but this might be more work than you think. Note GOK supports > "dwell" mode so that it works for users who can only manipulate a single > button. Making an on-screen keyboard that supports

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-07 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > > Actually by "themed version" you are referring to branding-type > themes; the existing gdmlogin screen DOES work quite well with > accessibility-related themes, for instance large print, high contrast, > inverse, etc. etc. Right, but how many distros use that as their de

Re: FW: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-07 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Ian Pascoe wrote: > OK, next question what about multi user systems? Again I think if any of > the users have Assistive Technologies enabled you would need to load that up > as default as until the log in screen is completed you won't know which user > is logging in. At After log in AT-SPI could

Re: GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-07 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: > Hi Henrik, > > Login is a somewhat unique environment; it is reasonable to explore > the question of whether one can get by without AT and AT-SPI. > > Unfortunately, I think the answer is "it depends upon the disability > need", which ends up being essentially "no, you can't r

GDM accessibility sans AT-SPI

2006-12-07 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi all, Another controversial post to g-a ... I'm currently looking at GDM accessibility and it strikes me that there is a strong case for doing this without using AT-SPI. The themed version currently does not work properly with the AT-SPI features and on the plain greeter version there is sti

Re: Flexible multiple AT app configuration

2006-12-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
George Kraft IV wrote: > Is Henrik's proposed "Assistive Technology Applications" dialog a new > gnome feature instead of the existing "Assistive Technology > Preferences", or the previously proposed "Preferred Applications" > enhancement? Or is Henrik's proposal an Ubuntu feature? Should I > con

Re: Flexible multiple AT app configuration

2006-12-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: >>> Do you think we really need "add" and "remove" buttons here? >> The idea was that the user would be able to add their own >> applications, perhaps installed directly from a 3rd party. This may >> even be proprietary things. From an Ubuntu perspective I don't >> actu

Re: Flexible multiple AT app configuration

2006-12-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > Hi Henrik: > > Thanks for doing the mock-up. I like this idea. > > I would suggest adding the 'description' bar (like the one in > add/remove applications) > to the AT configuration dialog, so the user could see more info about > the applications before selecting them for a

Flexible multiple AT app configuration

2006-12-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi All, George has written a first version of a tab for Preferred Application where one can select the ATs for different categories and whether they should launch at boot. Some people have concerns about the classification of ATs (should gnome-mag be launchable from here, is if fair to put Das

Re: ubuntu and software synthesiser

2006-12-02 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > Michael: > > You can use orca with DECtalk. To do so, you will need to rebuild > gnome-speech, since by default the DECtalk driver is not built and > installed. I believe that gnome-speech will build and install the > DECtalk drivers if DECtalk is detected on your system

eSpeak support in Orca -- what is the best way?

2006-12-01 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi all, I've been working with Gilles Casse of Oralux on a spec for better multilingual speech support in Ubuntu, and as it happens, the crux comes down to support for eSpeak in Orca. Let me explain ... The aim of the MultilingualSpeechSynthesis spec is to extend our current provision to synth

Re: LSR 0.3.2 - BSD Licensed!

2006-11-29 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Parente wrote: > The purpose of this release is to publicly announce the change of license on > the LSR code base from the Common Public License to the New Berkeley Software > Distribution License (BSD) official and public. Excellent news! Congratulations! Henrik __

Re: Ubuntu Edgy Eft Live CD f5 menu

2006-11-11 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Eric Magnus wrote: > Hi, > > > I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to remaster the Edgy Eft Live > CD so that the F5 - 3 screenreader option is permanently enabled? Can > I do this as an option in isolinux.cfg, or is it something more > involved than that? Also, is there any way I can crea

Re: Orca on laptops.

2006-11-08 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Cleverson wrote: > Hi all > > My suggestion is that we don't have a single laptop layout, but perhaps > three to five layouts matching several kinds of keyboards. I think we should try to avoid this if we can. A single keyboard layout for laptops will be easier to maintain and support (such as on

Re: Accessibilty module for colorblind people

2006-10-27 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Just following this up. Has anyone done more work on this? Is there a wiki page or something to download ban play with? I've made a spec for Ubuntu Feisty Fawn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/ColorFilters Please add your thoughts there. It would be great if we could include the f

Re: harmonizing on-screen keyboard progress

2006-10-25 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
David Bolter wrote: > > Great! Let us know when the wiki page has an URL you can share. > I've just made a quick start on it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Projects/OSK-ng I've ambitiously called it OSK Next Generation :) I'm not implying that a completely new app will arise from

Re: harmonizing on-screen keyboard progress

2006-10-25 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
David Bolter wrote: > Henrik, All, > > Hi. I'm just wondering if it might be helpful for everyone involved or > interested in free/open-source on-screen keyboard (or alternative input > software) development to get together in one place or on one phone call > to educate each other on our plans a

Re: Installing Ubuntu

2006-10-18 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Nolan Darilek wrote: > Hello, seems this list gets quite a few Ubuntu questions. Hopefully > it's OK if I toss out one more. Hopefully it's quick with a simple > solution. :) > You could also try the ubuntu list at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility It's read

Re: Ubuntu accessibility (mini) summit Nov. 5-10

2006-10-18 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: > > > So, I would like to propose that we designate one day during the > Ubuntu summit as an accessibility focus day. For purely selfish > reasons, I'd like to suggest that day be Monday November 6th (since > I'll be on a plane on the 7th). This isn't to prevent accessibility

Re: Ubuntu 6.0.6.1 Install

2006-10-18 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi All > > A bad news, good news story. > The ubiquity installer is still quite new and has had some issues. I would actually recommend you try the latest, soon to be released as final, Edgy Eft version. Both the installer and the access tools are more mature. We will ha

Ubuntu accessibility (mini) summit Nov. 5-10

2006-10-17 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
e/593 Please join us if you want to contribute to the initial planning of the Ubuntu Edgy+1 accessibility features. Henrik Nilsen Omma Ubuntu Accessibility Coordinator ___ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnom

Re: Linux desktop accessibility demo - which programs should I install

2006-10-16 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Eduardo Trápani wrote: > Hi, > > I'll talking about accessibility in general and I would love to show a > (more or less) working linux desktop solution for blind people since > everybody I know uses Jaws/Windows :(. > > What should I install to be able to show that? Gnome, KDE, it does not > ma

Edgy+1 Accessibility planning meeting

2006-10-16 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hello! Time: Oct, 23rd, 19:00 UTC Place: #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/MeetingAgenda We recently had an Accessibility team meeting where we focused on getting the Edgy Eft release tested and polished. We also did a quick round of introduc

Re: Announcing Orca v2.17.0

2006-10-11 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
hank smith wrote: > is this going to be implimented in the latest unbuntu coming out in a few > weeks? > Generally not. We will use Orca 1.0 (or 2.16 by the new system), but we have taken some of these patches. Henrik ___ gnome-accessibility-list m

Re: Accessibilty module for colorblind people

2006-10-10 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Daniel Ruoso wrote: >> I think that these filters could be implemented easily in gnome-mag. >> Probably Bill and Willie can give more advices about it. >> > > The question is that colorblindness filters aren't exactly related to > screen magnifier. I'm colorblind, but I don't need a screen mag

Re: Accessibilty module for colorblind people

2006-10-09 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Daniel Ruoso wrote: > So, if anyone thinks it's better to go through another way (like, > something more gnome-oriented instead of xorg-oriented) this is the time > to let me know. > I also agree that keeping it in xorg would be best so it can be used everywhere. > Again, if someone likes the

Re: Ubuntu and Orca

2006-10-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, > I'm trying to use the Ubuntu Edgy 6.10 disk I made, and it's > proving *extremely* sluggish. I don't get *any* icons on the desktop, and > when I finally am able to get to the first console and type orca, the > thing just sits there forever until I

Re: Hands Free Mouse Issues

2006-10-02 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: >> I agree with Peter that those are the devices that are known to work, >> but it would be very nice to get the SmartNav or similar working >> since it's so affordable. Perhaps I should get one and challenge the >> Ubuntu community to write a driver ... > > Or perhaps a Google

Re: Hands Free Mouse Issues

2006-10-02 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: > Hi Anna, > > There are two head-mice that present themselves as USB mice: the > Madentec Tracker (see > http://www.madentec.com/products/comaccess/tracker/tracker.html) and > Origin Systems HeadMouse (see > http://orin.com/access/headmouse/index.htm). Both cost roughly $1,0

Re: Ubuntu egdy and BRLTTY

2006-10-01 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Jason White wrote: > What this means is that BRLTTY is working correctly, but Orca isn't setting up > braille support properly. > > Those more experienced with Orca should be able to help further. > Unfortunately I'm not one of those, but if someone can show me how to make this Just Work (or c

Re: Ubuntu edgy

2006-10-01 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Petra Ritter wrote: > Hello, > > is the accessibility boot option 'Screen Reader' on the beta versions > found, on http://www.ubuntu.com/news/EdgyBeta, enabled? So that I have > to press F5 and to select 'Screen Reader" when the screen with the > boot options comes up in order to get the accessibil

Re: trouble getting Gnopernicus to talk

2006-09-15 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Petra Ritter wrote: > hello Brette Luck, > > Brette Luck wrote: > > Sorry for the last posting. > > >> I think this is going to be a great opportunity to get feedback to the >> community about where the accessibility technologies need work so that >> they can reach an even broader audience. Fir

Re: installing edgy

2006-09-13 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Thomas Ward wrote: > > Yes and no. Before you can run orca setup and use the Dectalk you will > have to recompile gnome-speech from source in order to get the Dectalk > software driver. Ubuntu do to some license issue can not include a > Dectalk Software driver for gnome-speech on the live cd a

Re: Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: still can't boot edgy!!!]

2006-09-06 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Cheryl Homiak wrote: > Well, that's no help!!! If the splash is my problem, and i don't know > for sure about that, I simply can't use the cd s I don't have sighted > assistance. I hope you aren't planning on leaving the cd this way; I > do realize this is still under development and I don't

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: still can't boot edgy!!!]

2006-09-06 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Keith Watson wrote: > Anyway, my first reply asked for clarification on this. I would > like to know exactly how to disable the splash on the edgy cd. I > have not had good luck with this on 2 out of the 3 Dell systems > that I am attempting to run it on. > On the first boot menu of the Live

Re: audacity: was Ubuntu on my desktop

2006-09-06 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > Mike/All: > > I think audacity uses WxWindows and not gtk+ directly. Thus stock gtk+ > widgets are not being used, as I understand it, and the app is not > accessible. > > Just to follow up: I tested Jokosher the other day with Orca, and it seems to work fine. See: htt

Re: Starting brltty on edgy ubuntu-powerpc

2006-09-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Willie Walker wrote: > On the latest Ubuntu Edgy on my x86 laptop, I get BrlTTY 3.7.2 to work > with my Baum Vario 40 display using the following command as root: > > brltty -d/dev/ttyUSB0 > It would be nice not to have to use root to start brltty. I filed an Ubuntu bug about it a few days ago

Re: backup applications and speech

2006-09-04 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > What Backup applications work with Gnome Orca? > Someone helping me get Ubuntu working with speech suggested R Sync and > someone else suggested Simple Backup. > Hi Michael, I don't think there is a consensus approach on backup at the moment. Several people are workin

Re: still can't boot edgy!!!

2006-09-03 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Cheryl Homiak wrote: > I am totally puzzled about this. Dapper Drake boots fine on my main > linux computer; so does grml so it's not my cdrom causing the > problem. the ppc version of ubuntu boots fine on my mac--never mind > that I can't get sound to work and can't get brltty to work--it do

Re: Software that works with Orca? - was Re: Ubuntu on my desktop

2006-09-01 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Thomas Ward wrote: > An OCR program so i can read my mail and i could say bye bye to > Windows. > > > Well, there are a few OCR solutions. I haven't played around with them > much but there is GOCR, clara, and there is a commercial OCR program for > Linux as well based on Omnipages engine. >

Re: audacity: was Ubuntu on my desktop

2006-09-01 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Mike Pedersen wrote: > Hi all, > >> Audacity offers some higher end features and is written in gtk, so it >> should be somewhat accessible if the authors have been thoughtful >> enough... have never tried it (for accessibility), though. >> >> > > I just tried audacity with orca and saddl

Re: Can't get edgy to boot; also, Orca from powerpc cd?

2006-08-31 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > Hi Henrik: > > Regarding knot-2, did you pick up the recent new release of gok? We > put in some exception handling to catch the XInput device error (from > the wacom driver, apparently) that was making gok DOA in many 6.06 > installations. > best regards > Cool. The last

Re: Can't get edgy to boot; also, Orca from powerpc cd?

2006-08-31 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Cheryl Homiak wrote: > I appear > to have created nice coasters instead of bootable cds as the iso > seems to start up and then reboots my machine; this happens forever > until I remove the iso. The md5sums are ok. Just checking: are you sure you are burning the ISOs correctly? You might w

Re: Orca Launching in Edgy -- continued

2006-08-29 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: > Hi Henrik, > > Thanks for your thoughts and efforts here. When it comes to keystroke > gestures, may I direct your (and everyone else's) attention to the > System Administration Section of the GNOME 2.14 Accessibility Guide (at > http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.14/

Running Orca on the Edgy Live CD -- HOWTO

2006-08-29 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi all, Sorry for cross-posting. I've seen questions about this on all three lists though, so I felt it appropriate. I've written up a fairly detailed HOWTO in the Ubuntu forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246334 Please comment with your experiences and on how it could be im

Re: [Kde-accessibility] KDE Accessibility - sorry, off topic.

2006-08-17 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Chris Jones wrote: > Keyboard are primarily used as text input devices. Almost all other > functions can be handled by the pointer input including the menus. If > the menus are too small a target to hit one possible work around would > be to increase the font size. > I think we should start l

Re: Serious accessibility issue in Gnome 2.15.

2006-08-03 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hi all, > I'm running Edgy with Gnome 2.15, and am experiencing major weirdness in > terms of accessibility when attempting to use it with Orca. > > Some of the issues I've noticed are as follows: > > 1. Focus in gaim seems to be messed up. I was able to create one account,

Re: Edgy and Orca

2006-08-01 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Petra Ritter wrote: > Hello, > > I have downloadet the Image of Edgy alva version desktop > > Is there no Orca on it yet? I dom't have any speach after the system > has started finish and I can't find orca. > Sorry, no Orca is not yet on the Edgy CD. There are also rumours that speech is broken

Re: thanks

2006-07-27 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > Does this also mean I have to try and disable the drums that sound > before I type my login information? > No, those are for the system (all users) while you should just disable the ESD sound mixing in gnome for your user account. > When I disable the sounds do they all

Re: problem starting gnopernicus

2006-07-26 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Thomas Ward wrote: > However, to run orca setup you must be running 0.2.5 or later. The version on > most of the Ubuntu mirrors in packages is 0.2.2. Although, I have heard some > one has a 0.2.5 package they specially built for users such as yourself. > Luke has made a package for 0.2.5. See:

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > In the beginning we tried to give guidance, but I got the distinct > impression that it was going to /dev/null.This is why I am > frustrated - lots of behind-the-scenes vague griping, without GOK bugs > and seemingly without a willingness to engage cooperatively to improve

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > > > > Making GOK's function keys appear in a separate keyboard would not be > difficult, nor would making GOK's window a fixed size. Cool, let's make it an easy-to select option. > However a fixed > size window will limit the options you can present to a user when using

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 12:41, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > >> Our plan is to go ahead with the new >> technology and deal with the problems as they arise. >> > > If by this you mean that you will ship SOK in preference to GOK in >

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > SOK doesn't support any kind of switch-only user, nor does it support > scanning users. It can only support users who can both point with high > accuracy, and click. > What is the difference between a 'switch-only' user and a 'scanning' user? I would assume that someone w

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > The "new onscreen keyboard" does not meet the needs of many > mobility-impaired users. GOK should be bundled with the LiveCD - once > some configuration issues are dealt with. > Do you have any specific use cases that GOK supports but SOK does not? The only one I can thi

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > Hi Petra: > > In the most recent versions of Gnome, assistive technology support is on > by default. The access keys idea is a reasonable one, and I think it > would greatly improve the Ubuntu accessibility experience for screen > reader and onscreen keyboard users. Agreed.

Re: accessebility suggestion for Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD

2006-07-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Petra Ritter wrote: > Hello, > > My suggestion is to turn on the accessibility Technology by default > and to have accesskeys to start Gnopernicus or what ever program they > use for persons with motor difficulties. I assuming that the for 'Lesser > visual impairment' there use just another theme t

Re: ubuntu 6.06 testing

2006-07-17 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi Jude, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I did manage to get gnopernicus talking several times on the ubuntu livecd > 6.06 disc I have but am still not sure of the timing to use to adjust the > boot menu. Last time I did it I used 15 seconds after cd started spinning > up. I can see from several pos

Re: Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD

2006-07-12 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Petra Ritter wrote: > How I quit and restart Gnopernicus properly? With out the nasty > errors? I find that just logging out and back in works well. In fact you can just kill the X session with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and then wait for 30 seconds or so for it to restart and log itselfback in automatic

Re: Getting latest Gnome

2006-07-10 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Calum Benson wrote: > 2.15 is the bleeding edge, unstable, development version... as such, > you'll probably have to build it yourself if you really want it, and > it probably won't be fun. If you're comfortable doing that, you > could use something like garnome to do the grunt work for you:

Re: setting up orca

2006-07-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
MICHAEL WEAVER wrote: > I am trying to run Ubuntu. > Because I am a member of a couple of Linux User Groups in my area and > new to Linux, > I am having to use a laptop as it helps me get support for any problems > I may have. > However, I had vaguely run Gnopernicus until I upgraded from the B

Re: followup on Ubuntu (fwd)

2006-07-04 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson wrote: >> Hello. Somebody said that that there was a way to do an unattended install >> of >> Ubuntu with the alternate CD. I've looked on ubuntu.com for the installation >> manual, but I haven't been able to find it. Where can I get the installation >> manual or at

Re: followup on Ubuntu (fwd)

2006-07-02 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Ryan Mann wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 18:22:33 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ryan Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: followup on Ubuntu > > Hello. Somebody said that that there was a way to do an unattended install > of > Ubuntu with

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: > On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 22:28, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > > >> Bill, is it an accessibility violation to have unusable accessibility tools? >> > > Are you going to say something helpful? > > OK, I should have resisted that last l

Re: [g-a-devel] Slow keys dialog

2006-06-26 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Chris Jones wrote: > ... > > In other words I cannot spend the summer making gnome-a11y suitable > for my needs. What I need is a temporary work around until after the > SoC when I could find time to work on this aspect of gnome-a11y and > fix my program so it is not an "accessibility violation".

Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16

2006-06-11 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: It has proven very useful to the GNOME accessibility project - and to advancing the support for assistive technologies and the implementation of ATK and AT-SPI - to have a screen reader, screen magnifier, and on-screen keyboard included as a formal part of GNOME. By 'blessin

Re: getting orca included in gnome 2.16

2006-06-10 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Janina Sajka wrote: Mike Pedersen writes: We have been informed, however, that there can be only one screen reader/magnifier in the GNOME desktop. That's a rather outrageous attitude. Who made that decision? Are they also prepared to have only one web browser? ONly one media player? O

Re: Gnopernicus and the new ubuntu installer

2006-06-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bram Duvigneau wrote: Gnopernicus is running quite well from the cd, but I had to do a few steps to get the installer talking: - - - Launch gnopernicus - - - Enable assistive technology support - - - Log out and in again - - - Launch gnopernicus from terminal, otherwise gnome-panel crshes - - -

Re: Gnopernicus and the new ubuntu installer

2006-06-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you still have the URL for that installer by chance? I'd like to try that instead of the patched-together arrangement I have now, which isn't working too well. The Ubuntu Live CD can be downloaded from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download That comes in the for

Re: dapper drake downloads

2006-05-13 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Jude DaShiell wrote: What's the procedure for downloading the accessible version of dapper drake using bittorrent? bittorrent is working with difficulty on this machine; I hae podracer working. I also need a command to get the public key of the package signer since I don't want to waste time

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Accessibility Summer of Code projects

2006-05-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
David Bolter wrote: Peter Korn wrote: Hi Henrik, Cool stuff. For the on-screen keyboard, please consider doing something like "gok --simple" (assuming folks like David Bolter agree). Yes. This is difficult though, since I can understand both sides of the fence here. My biased (gok maintai

Re: [Kde-accessibility] Accessibility Summer of Code projects

2006-05-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Peter Korn wrote: For the on-screen keyboard, please consider doing something like "gok --simple" (assuming folks like David Bolter agree). There is enough overlap that keeping common code common would be nice That is certainly an option. I will need to discuss this with the student who takes

Re: Accessibility Summer of Code projects

2006-05-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Olaf Jan Schmidt wrote: I am already step upas a mentor for KDe-related accessibility SoC projects, and of course I would be willing to co-mentor any accessibility SoC projects received at Ubuntu (at least if they are not planned to be Gtk-only). Cool! Now let's just hope we get some good ap

Accessibility Summer of Code projects

2006-05-05 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi all, (sorry for cross-posting again) The Ubuntu Accessibility Team is hosting up to three development projects during this year's Summer of Code. The SoC scheme is an opportunity to break some new ground and so we are focusing on new tools. There are technologies coming on line such as X

Re: Common AT config panel

2006-05-02 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hynek Hanke wrote: Henrik píše v Ne 23. 04. 2006 v 17:36 +0100: There are several new AT apps coming on line that need settings panels. From the user's perspective it would be preferable to have a single interface for all the AT on the free desktop. The challenge of course is that we are d

Re: Orca 0.2.3

2006-04-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Janina Sajka wrote: Seems to me the browser based configuration tool which Tomas Cerha mentioned makes the most sense. Works across allenvironments--even remotely, if someone can log in. I think all the points raised so far speak in favour of having a flexible configuration that can support s

Re: Making Orca the default screen reader?

2006-04-14 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Al Puzzuoli wrote: Hi all, Just wondering what would need to happen in order to get Orca officially added as part of the desktop, and to ultimately have it become the default screen reader for the gnome environment? I understand that gnome 2.14 was just released, and that Orca itself is still

Re: Festival vs. F-lite disk space requirements

2006-02-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: Henrik: I think Flite uses the same file format. ( Will, please correct me if I'm wrong). By same format you mean the same speech files? So what is the main benefit of F-lite, a smaller memory footprint? (and java cross-platformness) It also requires a Java JRE, are you p

Festival vs. F-lite disk space requirements

2006-02-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hello, We are working on packaging screen reader support for the Ubuntu Live CD, but have gotten ourselves a little confused regarding file sizes ... Being a Live CD we are quite limited on disk space. We were thinking that we should use the smaller F-lite, rather than the full Festival, ass

Re: Fwd: Voice recognition for GNOME

2006-02-10 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Calum Benson wrote: This is a new voice recognition project for GNOME: http://glec.umanizales.edu.co/index.php/corporate/proyectos/gervoice I've took a look at it, and they seem to be using the IBM voice recognition engine. BTW, the website is written in Spanish.. If it's the original ViaVoice e

Re: Testing plan

2005-12-15 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
David Bolter wrote: We are happy to add authors to: http://larswiki.atrc.utoronto.ca/wiki Perhaps you should consider opening it up as an actual wiki. I think that would encourage more people to contribute. I'm involved in running several Moin wikis and we really don't seem to have any problems

Testing plan

2005-12-15 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
I'm setting up a structured testing matrix for basic desktop tasks across a few Generic User Descriptions (GUDs). Note: most of the ideas and categories for this are borrowed from the Gnome Sanity Test Suite: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/sanity-testing/index.html I've set up a sampl

Re: detailed review of GOK

2005-12-12 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes sense to me too, but we don't count Bill ;-) We're too deep inside. Well, exactly. Now that I've had it explained, I see it too, but I was wearing my no nonsense user advocate hat when writing that. I'm not trying to be unreasonably controversial, just ques

Re: detailed review of GOK

2005-12-12 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Bill Haneman wrote: Thanks for that detailed review. I do agree that many of your problems seem to have stemmed from integration/configuration issues, or missing understanding of some issues unique to GOK. That's probably true. So this process will help us at Ubuntu to configure GOK better and

detailed review of GOK

2005-12-12 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi all, I've written up a fairly detailed review of GOK here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Reviews/GOK It is meant partially as an introduction to those who don't know the program, but mainly as a critical look that can hopefully stimulate discussion and further development. - Hen

Re: Request for help setting up Gnopernicus

2005-11-28 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My name is Max Tappenden. I am 16 years old and am visually impaired. I have been referred to this list by my IT teacher to get some help setting up gnopernicus on Ubuntu 5.10. Hey Max, Welcome to Linux and Ubuntu! I'm sure you'll get good advice on this li

Re: accessibility testing

2005-10-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Calum Benson wrote: Just a reminder for developers who *are* interested in a more formal approach: there's a "test your app for accessibility" how-to at http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/testing/index.html. As with usability testing, though, a checklist like that is no substitute for h

accessibility testing

2005-10-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi, I was inspired by this thread last month: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2005-September/msg00104.html to encourage more people to perform these sorts of self tests. Testing of general usability can now be seen here: http://www.betterdesktop.org/welcome/ which is in

Speech recognition

2005-10-24 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hi, I just wanted to share with the list the results of some experiments that I've been doing with speech recognition (on Linux, sort of). Basically, I'm using two machines next to each other, one running Windows and the other with Linux and I pipe the text signal from the one to the other w

Reorganising accessibility features in gnome (suggestion)

2005-08-19 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Hello, I have a comment about the way the Assistive Technology features are organised and presented in gnome (and a suggestion for improvement). This touches on a bit more than just the AT features themselves, so I should probably send this to some general gnome devel list as well (desktop-de

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