Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson
Greetings, There is no doubt that Gnome access is, at the moment, inferior to Windows access for visually impaired people. However, those of us who were using computers when Windows started will remember the problems we had then. I, for one, appreciate very much the work that's being done arou

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Bill is right. We shouldn't sell the Gnome access to short yet. After all there is work that needs to be done, but we have achieved huge breakthroughs in access already. For example, three years ago i could do nothing at all in Gnome. Now, I daily use Evolution for my email, mozilla as my defa

gnopernicus compiling

2005-09-29 Thread Jason Grieves
Well I seem to have hit a hard nut to crack as I update to 0.11.6 gnopernicus. Building on the AIX environment i cleaned up a few issues and now am stuck on this one. Making all in srcore make: 1254-002 Cannot find a rule to create target default.xml from dependencies. Stop I have done a ma

Re: software TTS

2005-09-29 Thread Fco. Javier Dorado Martínez
Hi to all Is this runtime same than Wizard software's distributes ? I can see this site www.ttsynth.com seems to be down. Regards, Javier On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 09:52:47AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > Thanks for the info. > On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 11:55 -0500, George Kraft wrote: > > On Wed, 2005

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread hank smith
what is the second screen reader? I thaught gnopernicus was the only working one? - Original Message - From: "Bill Haneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Samuel Thibault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Dave Lister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 7:15

Re: full screen + 1/4 magnification

2005-09-29 Thread George Kraft
> the -m switch helped somewhat but things are still really buggy compared to > linux. scrolling almost anywhere past the middle of the screen results in > heavy distortion and the cursor will not go past the center of the screen. > It does follow it on the right side, very well actually. I'

RE: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Jason Grieves
Point taken, My low vision friend who see's 20/1700 loves open source and the idea of linux. He's also a computer administrator. He worked at the Dept. of Homeland security where they house *nix and windows boxes. The boxes they had just didn't work very well with the gnome magnifier. He came

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Sébastien Hinderer
Hi Sun folks & other listers. Bill Haneman : > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > >... > > > > > >They say "open source is not accessible", which is wrong, but what is > >true is "open source is not yet really accessible". > > > I do not agree with this assessment. [snip] Hey Bill. Just for an experie

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Peter Korn
Hi David, Dave Lister wrote: > The following have emailed Mass. regarding the lack of support in Open Source for the blind or visually impaired. Do you have any information to the contrary. If so do you mind informing them of such. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. I have to agree with Samuel. I've been trying to use Gnome for over 2 years now. There has been progress, but I still use the text console for everything. Elinks in the text console provides better access than Sun's Mozilla. I can't access remote systems in the Gnome environment, so Gnome

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Bill Haneman, le Thu 29 Sep 2005 15:39:57 +0100, a écrit : > However this requires committment to testing, education of testers and > integrators. It also may mean integrating a Sun-mozilla instead of, or > alongside, Firefox, etc. To say that this cannot be done today is wrong > in my vi

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Bill Haneman
Samuel Thibault wrote: ... They say "open source is not accessible", which is wrong, but what is true is "open source is not yet really accessible". I do not agree with this assessment. The vast majority of problems which have been raised on this list has undergone a shift in recent month

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Bill Haneman, le Thu 29 Sep 2005 15:15:21 +0100, a écrit : > but we have the great advantage of having done the work in the open > where all can contribute to its improvement. Yes, that's precisely what should be explained to them indeed. They say "open source is not accessible", which is wr

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Bill Haneman
Samuel: It is vital to our survival that we do not agree too quickly with such people. We do already have end users who are using gnopernicus to carry our their daily work; without our existing work, as it already is, this would not be possible. There are four open source assistive technolo

Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, Dave Lister, le Thu 29 Sep 2005 21:33:45 +0800, a écrit : > The following have emailed Mass. regarding the lack of support in Open Source > for the blind or visually impaired. Do you have any information to the > contrary. If so do you mind informing them of such. Well, I cannot but say tha

Re: software TTS

2005-09-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Thanks for the info. On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 11:55 -0500, George Kraft wrote: > On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 10:02 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 11:09 -0500, George Kraft wrote: > > > Samuel & Daragh, > > > > > > I have the Linux IBM TTS running on Fedora Core 4. It needs ALS

Re: freetts

2005-09-29 Thread Bill Haneman
Hi Olivier: I believe the message should say "now running", instead of "not running". A couple of things to look out for; note that you will have to restart your bonobo-activation-server after adding a new gnome-speech driver, before it will appear in the list of available drivers. Also, it

Gnome and support for the visually impaired

2005-09-29 Thread Dave Lister
The following have emailed Mass. regarding the lack of support in Open Source for the blind or visually impaired. Do you have any information to the contrary. If so do you mind informing them of such. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: freetts

2005-09-29 Thread Olivier BERT
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:38:27PM -0400, Willie Walker wrote: > >test-speech asks me : "Select a server :". > >And that's all. I don't know what parameter I have to give. > > > >When I run by hand freetts-synthesis-driver, it seems to find java but > >it says : > >Hello, FreeTTS Driver is not

Re: software TTS

2005-09-29 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. The page is completely accessible with elinks in a text console. I had no problem with the demos or buying voices. The site was so easy to use with elinks I ended up buying 3 voices. Kenny On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 08:31:56AM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi, > >From Windows the page

Re: software TTS

2005-09-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, >From Windows the page is very accessible. From Mozilla under Linux it is a little tricky to use. It takes a little time, but I did manage to figure it out using gnopernicus and mozilla. On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 18:31 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: > Hi Hank: > > That's "Theta", T H E T A. Cepstral

Re: software TTS

2005-09-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, How can I tell if my voice is aSwift or a Theta voice. I recently ppurchased David for Windows, and was wondering if it would work with Gnome-speech if I downloaded the Linux version and tried it. On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 12:04 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: > Darragh: > > I've used gnome-speech dri