[g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi. HTML5 introduces inert subtrees [1] which are supposed to make a portion of the document inactive (not interactive for the user): "When a node or one of its ancestors is inert, then the user agent must act as if the element was absent for the purposes of targeting user interaction events, may

Re: [g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread PiƱeiro
On 09/27/2013 06:03 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: > Hi. Hi, > > HTML5 introduces inert subtrees [1] which are supposed to make a > portion of the document inactive (not interactive for the user): > > "When a node or one of its ancestors is inert, then the user agent > must act as if the element was

Re: [g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi. Possibly they word it this way to have some room for use cases other than dialog element. Also AFAIK inert subtree don't have implementations yet so the wording is not really final. In either case I agree the spec sounds a bit controversial stating that no user interaction events but same time

Re: [g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hey Alex, all. On 09/27/2013 12:03 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: > Hi. > > HTML5 introduces inert subtrees [1] which are supposed to make a > portion of the document inactive (not interactive for the user): > > "When a node or one of its ancestors is inert, then the user agent > must act as if the

Re: [g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread Trevor Saunders
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 01:27:19PM -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > As a related aside: > > > > aria-hidden implementation varies from browser to browser: Chrome > > removes it from accessible tree, > > Which I think makes a heck of a lot of sense. If for all intents and > purposes it is not there

Re: [g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi, Joanie. A primary use case I can think of is a dialog. When it appears on the screen then everything but dialog content turns into inert subtree. So basically it's grayed-out content but still visible for the user. I don't have other use cases, probably Steve Faulkner knows something. So basi

Re: [g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
On 09/27/2013 01:54 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: > A primary use case I can think of is a dialog. When it appears on the > screen then everything but dialog content turns into inert subtree. So > basically it's grayed-out content but still visible for the user. I > don't have other use cases, proba

Re: [g-a-devel] HTML5 inert subtrees

2013-09-27 Thread Alexander Surkov
Yep, STATE_ACTIVE as you describe it might do a trick. Basically if AT are ok that STATE_INACTIVE window contains STATE_ACTIVE dialog then it should be working. Alex. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > On 09/27/2013 01:54 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: > >> A primary use case