[g-a-devel] ANNOUNCE: gnome-mag 0.14.2

2007-03-02 Thread Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Diógenes
* What is gnome-mag? gnome-mag provides a command-line interface for standalone use, although its primary goal is to provide a set of magnification services for use by other client applications and assistive technologies. Download at the usual place : ht

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Willie Walker
I see what you're saying. It looks like it should be SENSITIVE. For example, let's take a GTK label. If it is not grayed, it is SENSITIVE. Will Peter Parente wrote: >> In this case, the toolbar has the SENSITIVE state and is not grayed. > > Good. Now, look at a Firefox paragraph or other elem

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Peter Parente
> In this case, the toolbar has the SENSITIVE state and is not grayed. Good. Now, look at a Firefox paragraph or other element inside a webpage that is not interactive and compare it with an element that is interactive but currently grayed. Pete On 3/2/07, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Willie Walker
Thanks! These help. Let's focus on the SENSITIVE state as a means to do what you want. I verified all these examples using at-poke. > 1) The user tabs to the Close button in the gedit settings dialog. In > this case, we might say the name of the button, the role of the > button, and the mnemon

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Peter Parente
Sure. Here are examples representative of the three cases we want to handle in LSR. 1) The user tabs to the Close button in the gedit settings dialog. In this case, we might say the name of the button, the role of the button, and the mnemonic for the button. 2) The user reviews to a grayed out me

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Willie Walker
Hi Peter: > So how does Orca distinguish the case of some interactive widget being > disabled from some widget that can never be enabled? Does Orca say > disabled in both cases? Can you enumerate some actual use cases? Concrete examples might make this discussion easier. Thanks! Will >> Of

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Peter Parente
Hi Will, So how does Orca distinguish the case of some interactive widget being disabled from some widget that can never be enabled? Does Orca say disabled in both cases? Or, when you notice state sensitive is missing, do you check again other information (e.g. list of roles that could be enabled/

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Willie Walker
I would prefer to remain with what gail does; I view it as the reference implementation of the AT-SPI. Changing the behavior of an established meaning and implementation to accommodate a difference in a new API for a different platform (IAccessible2) seems odd to me. It also seems like someth

Re: [g-a-devel] How to indicate disabled state

2007-03-02 Thread Bill Haneman
Aaron Leventhal wrote: > Bill Haneman wrote: > >> My vote would be to retain FOCUSABLE when an object is greyed out, but >> that could confuse clients who expect the object to remain in the focus >> chain. >> >> > First, thanks for your input on this. Not to muck things up, but I wou