Re: [gmx-users] Twin range cut-off's: rlist and rvdw

2009-05-27 Thread Yan Chai
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 14:33 +0200, Yan Chai wrote: > > > It seems that in the twin range cut-off method, rlist does not only > > play a role as a cut-off for neighbor searching, but also as a cut-off > > for short-range interactions. Do I und

RE: [gmx-users] Twin range cut-off's: rlist and rvdw

2009-05-27 Thread Berk Hess
se in the system. Therefore twin-range cut-off should not be used for Coulomb interactions, only for Lennard-Jones, where the forces are anyhow very small. We might consider implementing a proper multiple time step integrator for version 4.1 or 4.2. Berk > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Twin range c

Re: [gmx-users] Twin range cut-off's: rlist and rvdw

2009-05-27 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 14:33 +0200, Yan Chai wrote: > It seems that in the twin range cut-off method, rlist does not only > play a role as a cut-off for neighbor searching, but also as a cut-off > for short-range interactions. Do I understand correctly? If you're using Coulombic cutoffs, then yes.

Re: [gmx-users] Twin range cut-off's: rlist and rvdw

2009-05-27 Thread Yan Chai
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > In the twin range method [1] interactions that are in the range > rlist..rvdw are only calculated during neighborlist updates. In the mean > time they are considered to stay constant. > > The idea behind this is that when r>rlist the interac

Re: [gmx-users] Twin range cut-off's: rlist and rvdw

2009-05-27 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 11:00 +0200, Yan Chai wrote: > If my understanding above is correct, it seems that the concept or > the algorithm of neighborlist for the twin range cut-off's in Gromacs > is different from the original concept of Verlet neighborlist which is > discussed in the textbook on

[gmx-users] Twin range cut-off's: rlist and rvdw

2009-05-27 Thread Yan Chai
Dear Gromacs users, I have a question about the twin range cut-off's in Gromacs. If I choose vdwtype as Cut-off, the manual on run parameters tells me that I need to choose rvdw>=rlist in this case. I have read the section on the treatment of cutoffs in the manual and also the mailing lis