Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-24 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Ok.you are right,actually entropy has contribution as H,of course it seems to me! On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 9:32 PM, wrote: > Mohsen, > > Writing H as E+PV does not change the nature of my question. It was said > that when computing binding Delta Delta G between two close variants, most > entropic

[gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-24 Thread chris . neale
Mohsen, Writing H as E+PV does not change the nature of my question. It was said that when computing binding Delta Delta G between two close variants, most entropic contributions would tend to cancel. My question is why, when there are many components to the gibbs free energy, would some

Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-24 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
Dear Chris Do you mean Gibbs free energy? there are a general relation in statistical mechanics as below: G=E-TS+PV in this relation E is internal energy and S is entropy,then enthalepy is not comming in relation anywhere, besides there are not any reason for canceling G when Del Del S is canceled

[gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-24 Thread chris . neale
Ehud, when computing binding Delta Delta G between two close variants, why would entropy tend to cancel and enthalpy not tend to cancel? Even in the case of small perturbations, this sounds like wishful thinking to me ;) Chris. -- original message -- Hi Moshen, I think everybody agrees

Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-24 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
npour Subject: Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding reading your idea: it seems to me I can't ignore entropy contribution because my simulation is at room tempreture. Really I couldn't understand what can I do! I am working at room tempreture and I want to estimate bind

[gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-24 Thread Ehud Schreiber
+0330 From: mohsen ramezanpour Subject: Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding >reading your idea: >it seems to me I can't ignore entropy contribution because my simulation is >at room tempreture. >Really I couldn't understand what can I do! >I am working at room

Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-22 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
reading your idea: it seems to me I can't ignore entropy contribution because my simulation is at room tempreture. Really I couldn't understand what can I do! I am working at room tempreture and I want to estimate binding free energy(delta G),can I ignore entropy in this simulation and calculate b

Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread mohsen ramezanpour
reading your idea: it seems to me I can't ignore entropy contribution because my simulation is at room tempreture. Really I couldn't understand what can I do! I am working at room tempreture and I want to estimate binding free energy(delta G),can I ignore entropy in this simulation and calculate b

[gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread Ran Friedman
users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf Of Ehud Schreiber [schr...@compugen.co.il] Sent: 21 October 2010 10:39 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org Subject: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding Actually, I believe that using the energy difference, Delta E, as an approximation to the free energy differenc

Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread Sander Pronk
To put some numbers to what David said, here's an experimental paper on a well-studied drug-protein complex: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/bi001013s the entropic contribution of HIV-1 protease inhibitor binding is about 3x bigger than the enthalpic contribution for all 4 drugs studied ther

Re: [gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread David van der Spoel
On 2010-10-21 10.39, Ehud Schreiber wrote: Actually, I believe that using the energy difference, Delta E, as an approximation to the free energy difference, Delta G, is a valid approach (which I'm considering myself). The entropic contribution to Delta G, namely -T Delta S, may be less prominent

[gmx-users] RE: Gibbs free energy of binding

2010-10-21 Thread Ehud Schreiber
Actually, I believe that using the energy difference, Delta E, as an approximation to the free energy difference, Delta G, is a valid approach (which I'm considering myself). The entropic contribution to Delta G, namely -T Delta S, may be less prominent than Delta E. In addition, Delta S can be app