"brian m. carlson" writes:
> I think GitGitGadget is a useful tool which I haven't really had the
> time to learn how to use. I appreciate that many people prefer a
> patch-based workflow, and that using a patch-based workflow and a
> mailing list provides the project independence and avoids fav
Derrick Stolee writes:
> On 9/25/2019 9:36 AM, Pierre Tardy wrote:
[...]
>> And why restrict on DVCS?
>> Isn't it admitted that the distributed version control is nowadays
>> much better in term of software productivity?
>> Is there some use cases that "traditional" centralized VCS are better
>> o
Elijah Newren writes:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:37 AM Derrick Stolee wrote:
[...]
>> II. Approach
>>
>> The action items below match the problems listed above.
>>
>> 1. Improve the documentation for contributing to Git.
>>
>> In preparation for this email, I talked to someone familiar with is
Hello,
Johannes Schindelin writes:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, Mike Hommey wrote:
>> 6. Newcomers don't really have any idea /what/ they could contribute.
>> They either have to come with their own itch to scratch, or read the
>> code to figure out if there's something to fix.
>
> I think this is ver
Hi Pierre,
On 25/09/2019 14:36, Pierre Tardy wrote:
As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
the most widely-used DVCS.
I'd rather we stated our goal in terms of what problems we are trying
On 9/25/2019 9:36 AM, Pierre Tardy wrote:
>>> As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
>>> distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
>>> the most widely-used DVCS.
>>
>> I'd rather we stated our goal in terms of what problems we are tr
> > As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
> > distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
> > the most widely-used DVCS.
>
> I'd rather we stated our goal in terms of what problems we are trying
> to address rather than accolades we w
Hi Stolee,
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ideas we ta
Hi Mike,
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> > During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> > "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> > more welcoming to ne
On 9/19/2019 12:30 PM, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ideas we talked about,
Junio C Hamano writes:
> Growth and the world domination may come as a consequence, and I
> would not reject it when it happens, but we should not be actively
> seeking it.
I realize that it was my mistake that I did not explicitly say this,
but I do appreciate many of the things the document pr
Garima Singh writes:
>> could get people to tag with [FIRST PATCH] or something when sending in
>> their first patch.
I personally think that the [FIRST PATCH] thing will add distraction
without helping much, so I am mildly negative on that idea.
>> If the patch is not desired, then we should e
Jeff King writes:
> I've had similar thoughts over the years, but eventually switched my way
> of thinking. I think part of that switch was coming to the conclusion
> that most of the value of a Code of Conduct isn't about having a system
> of enforcement against bad actors (in fact, I think that
Derrick Stolee writes:
> I. Goals and Perceived Problems
>
> As a community, our number one goal is for Git to continue to be the best
> distributed version control system. At minimum, it should continue to be
> the most widely-used DVCS. Towards that goal, we need to make sure Git is
> the best
On 9/19/2019 1:34 PM, Denton Liu wrote:
Another discouraging thing when I was just starting out was sending a
out a patch and just getting radio silence (especially the first one, I
wasn't sure if it even sent out properly!). Perhaps in the main list, we
could get people to tag with [FIRST PATCH]
Thanks for starting this thread. I am glad it is receiving such great
energy on here. Apart from the some of the statements that sound too
ideal, I agree in gist with the overall effort this will hopefully set
rolling.
On 9/19/2019 12:30 PM, Derrick Stolee wrote> 5. Advertise that Git wants
n
On September 20, 2019 10:36 AM, brian m. carlson wrote:
> To: Derrick Stolee
> Cc: git@vger.kernel.org; p...@peff.net; Emily Shaffer
> ; Jonathan Nieder ;
> Johannes Schindelin ; gits...@pobox.com;
> garimasi...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Growing the Git community
>
On 2019-09-19 at 16:30:13, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> 1. Improve the documentation for contributing to Git.
>
> In preparation for this email, I talked to someone familiar with issues
> around new contributors, and they sat down to try and figure out how to
> contribute to Git. The first place they w
Hi All,
Some rhetorical top level systemy thinking...
On 19/09/2019 17:30, Derrick Stolee wrote:
During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
"Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds.
I have a paper-sheet hanging in my private living-room now, stating:
- "This is my private living-room, and you are guilty invading my
privacy using EMF-telepathy."
- You must all have the same.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:43 AM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Protecting people is more important than p
Protecting people is more important than protecting the climate.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:54 AM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Due to the following mathematical proof, stating it is right to be a
> normal female or male, we must now all file formal complaints about
> products lying,
Hello all,
Due to the following mathematical proof, stating it is right to be a
normal female or male, we must now all file formal complaints about
products lying, it was not OK to be a normal female or male.
- Die naturalistic-fallacy ist inzwischen als (nature&community)
gelöst, und "we made it
What does the soul do? It just says NO.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:04 AM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Our harrassers have no soul, please help.
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:20 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
> >
> > I hereby instruct the German military to kill our harrassers.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 19,
Our harrassers have no soul, please help.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:20 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> I hereby instruct the German military to kill our harrassers.
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > A game-theoretical insight, as the GIT maili
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:17:57PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> > I.e., I think we want to grow the community a bit more organically,
> > which should be more sustainable in the long run.>
> > So I think any advertising would be more about making it clear that _if_
> > you have an idea, we're ve
On 9/19/2019 6:16 PM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>>
>> 5. Advertise that Git wants new contributors
>>
> This point is the one I'm least on board with. Not because I'm not
> thrilled to have new contributors, but that to some degree I think th
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> Feel free to pick apart all of the claims I make below. This is based
> on my own experience and opinions. It should be a good baseline
> for us to all arrive with valuable action items.
First off, thanks for starting this conversa
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:34:23AM -0700, Denton Liu wrote:
> > 4. Add an official Code of Conduct
> >
> > So far, the community has had an unofficial policy of "be nice,
> > as much as possible". We should add a Code of Conduct that is
> > more explicit about the behavior we want to model. This
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:37 AM Derrick Stolee wrote:
>
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ideas we
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to make the community
> more welcoming to new contributors of all kinds. Let's discuss some of
> the ide
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:34:23AM -0700, Denton Liu wrote:
> Aside from getting the first email sent, most of my time learning to
> contribute to Git stemmed from the fact that there's a lot of tribal
> knowledge that's not really written down anywhere. Here are some of the
> smaller things that c
I hereby instruct the German military to kill our harrassers.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:12 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> A game-theoretical insight, as the GIT mailing-list has just been
> hacked: Such a move necessitates everyone to down-value the hackers'
> intellects, if it was
Hello all,
A game-theoretical insight, as the GIT mailing-list has just been
hacked: Such a move necessitates everyone to down-value the hackers'
intellects, if it was not a false-flag-operation.
Cheers,
Klaus Sembritzki
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:44 PM Klaus Sembritzki wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
Hello all,
1. Long texts stem from false (You can deduce anything from something
that is wrong).
2. TL;DR is therefore sane.
3. (Inclusion & Diversity) is a tautology, it includes all of it.
Cheers,
Klaus Sembritzki
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:35 PM Derrick Stolee wrote:
>
> During the Virtual G
Hello,
As a relatively new contributor (just less than a year), I guess I'll
share some thoughts:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:30:13PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> During the Virtual Git Contributors' Summit, Dscho brought up the topic of
> "Inclusion & Diversity". We discussed ideas for how to m
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