Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 PM, James wrote: > I think the fundamental flaw with systemd is the fact that the duality > of support for systemd and other init solutions is so quickly abondoned. > If they were allowed (encouraged) to run side by side for a few years, > let folks decide then; as i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Marc Stürmer wrote: > Zitat von Tom H : >> >> Lennart claims that the embedded world loves systemd. I suspect that, >> as in other corners of the Linux world, there are lovers and haters of >> systemd. > > Embedded systems also q

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Tom H wrote: >> Samsung's starting to release Tizen-driven phones, TVs, white goods, >> etc. Tizen uses systemd and, given the size of Samsung, the number of >> systemd em

Re: [gentoo-user] grub -> gummiboot: good

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 28.01.2015 01:36, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:40:32 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: No need for chainloading with UEFI. Set Gummiboot as the default boot option and hold down Esc (or whichever ke

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Marc Stürmer wrote: > Am 22.01.2015 um 19:06 schrieb Tom H: >> >> Sure. My point was that anyone can claim that systemd is (un)popular >> in the embedded space. > > I don't know if it is popular; in embedded systems though th

Re: [gentoo-user] grub -> gummiboot: good

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Mick wrote: > > ... and if you have no need for multi-booting then the kernel efi stub is very > simple to configure and still works reliably (with openrc and no initrd here). > No need to install a separate boot manager. It's not just multi-booting that might nee

Re: [gentoo-user] grub -> gummiboot: good

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 28.01.2015 19:50, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> On 28.01.2015 19:44, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >>> So now "Linux Boot Manager" is gummiboot ... and grub is grub ;) >> >> And for the records: >> >> renaming "Linux Boot Manager

Re: [gentoo-user] grub -> gummiboot: good

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 28.01.2015 20:47, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>> On 28.01.2015 19:50, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >>>> On 28.01.2015 19:44, Stefan G. Weichinger w

Re: [gentoo-user] grub -> gummiboot: good

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 28.01.2015 21:31, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> My command lead to a non-booting machine ... the gummiboot-entry was >> removed from UEFI. > > tried your command and rebooted, worked, thanks! You're welcome. > Would you mind s

Re: [gentoo-user] grub -> gummiboot: good

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 28.01.2015 21:36, Tom H wrote: >>> My command lead to a non-booting machine ... the gummiboot-entry was >>> removed from UEFI. >> >> But IIRC the 'tree' output that you'd posted, y

Re: [gentoo-user] grub -> gummiboot: good

2015-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I rm`ed the ESP and started over. > > gummiboot boots fine again. > > I added some entries to /etc/grub.d/40_custom > (some pointers to isos etc) > > and ran > > grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/grub_uefi/grub.cfg > > When I chose gru

Re: [gentoo-user] [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

2015-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, walt wrote: > > Everybody's favoritest cuddly FOSS personality Theo de Raadt is quoted in > Wikipedia as saying: "NFS4 is not on our roadmap. It's a horribly bloated > protocol that they keep adding crap to." > > The latest nfs-utils package demonstrates why he's a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

2015-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:31 PM, walt wrote: > > For example, I had to add the rpcbind.service to the multi-user > systemd target because even nfs3 seems to need it. You must mean "because especially nfsv3 needs it" because, theoretically, nfsv4 doesn't need rpcbind since an nfsv4 mount only needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

2015-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I believe that starting nfs-client.service or nfs-server.service > starts everything needed EXCEPT rpcbind. I'd have to re-trace > everything, but I think that there are multiple packages involved here > and the upstream units don't include

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

2015-02-03 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:46 PM, walt wrote: > On 02/02/2015 10:29 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:31 PM, walt wrote: >>> >>> For example, I had to add the rpcbind.service to the multi-user >>> systemd target because even nfs3 seems to need it. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

2015-02-22 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:05 PM, walt wrote: > On 02/03/2015 03:29 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:46 PM, walt wrote: >>> >>> This morning I got "waiting on lockfile foo in /usr/portage/distfiles" >>> "locking not available"

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot up error messages. Init thingy needed now??

2015-02-22 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Dale wrote: >> >> My partitions are something like this. Normal partitions, /boot and >> root itself. /usr and /var on LVM. > > Gentoo dropped support for booting without mounting /usr early in boot > a while ba

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs

2015-02-22 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > rpms and debs are both cpio files so the easy way is to unpack them and > see what's going on: > > rpm2cpio name.rpm | cpio -iv --make-directories > dpkg -x somepackage.deb ~/temp/ For deb packages, you can use binutils' ar; there's no nee

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

2015-02-22 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > My DSL router modem is at 192.168.123.254. I have an HDHomerun > network TV tuner that insists on coming up somewhere in the 169.254.X.Y > block. Up until upgrading from 32 to 64 bits, I was able to see a 2nd > eth0 (i.e. eth0:1) using the f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

2015-02-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday 23 Feb 2015 08:39:42 Walter Dnes wrote: >> >> Looks like it's time to play around with the "ip" command and try to >> duplicate my current setup. Does anyone have a multi-route setup >> similar to mine configured with iproute2? The net.exa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

2015-02-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I've been Googling and playing around a bit. I have the main ADSL > connection to the world working via iproute2, but not the 169.254.0.0/16 > net. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. My setup... > > * desktop PC 192.168.123.251/29, wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

2015-02-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Let's forget about additional routes with different metrics, and try > to get the simplest case working, and move forward from there. If I have > /etc/conf.d/net as... > > modules=( "!iproute2" ) > config_eth0=" > 192.168.123.251/29 broadcast

Re: [gentoo-user] EFI install ( continum) [ system hangs at boot ]

2015-02-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > Efibootmgr is not a boot manager, it's an utility to interface with the EFI > firmware on the motherboard and you don't need to hardcode the command line on > the kernel, look at the -u option of efibootmgr. You can even load an initrd

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot ( Error loading \vmlinuz :Not found)

2015-02-28 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 5:50 AM, German wrote: > > Ok, this was probably my third unsuccesful install on UEFI. This time with > gummiboot. I've followed this guide: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gummiboot > > and did exactly what was written. What is the vmlinuz it is complaining > about? Can i

Re: [gentoo-user] EFI install ( continum) [ system hangs at boot ]

2015-03-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:50:37 PM Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Fernando Rodriguez >> wrote: >>> >>> Efibootmgr is not a boot manager, it's an utility to interface with t

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-08 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > I compiled the latest gentoo-sources-3.19.1 with Canek's kerninst tool. > > It is configured to generate a "loader-entry" for the gummiboot bootloader. > > That bootloader is the default entry in the UEFI boot order and it works > ..

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-08 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 08.03.2015 16:59, Tom H wrote: >> Are the ownership and mode of >> "e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf" the same as the >> two others (although I'd assume that it wouldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-08 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > moved e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf to simply > "stefan.conf" ... then it gets displayed (and boots fine as well) > > maybe we should name the conf-files in a different way? I listed my "/boot" set up in my pre

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-08 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > The /boot partition in UEFI systems needs to be vfat. Permissions are not > gonna matter that much in that. Very true. Stupid of me...

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-08 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> "version"?! I've never seen this and I don't use it. > > From [1]: > > title text to show in the menu > version versi

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-08 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:51:38 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> >>> Are the ownership and mode of >>> "e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf" the same as the >>> two others (although I'd assume that it wouldn't matter) and is i

Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:27 PM, German wrote: > > Did you hear about CLI wi-fi tool iw? I am testing it right now, > but seem cannot figure out how to use it iw is OK to set up an unencrypted or wep connection but you need wpa_supplicant for a wpa connection; and you need either ip or a dhcp cli

Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:15:53 PM Tom H wrote: >> >> I've never used nmcli except to get ip information (see below) but >> setting up NM without a gui is simple. >> >> This is my home wifi

Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jc García wrote: > > If you want an easy way of configuring wirless without GUI use wicd > and the wicd curses client(enabled via USE flag), NetworkManager is > simpler to use with a GUI, the CLI client is not so easy to use, but > if you want to, make sure none of

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check [Update]

2015-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:14 PM, wrote: > wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Friday 13 March 2015 23:28:32 Neil Bothwick wrote: I have this in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules: SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KERNEL=="tty[0-9]*", GROUP="tty", MODE="0620" >>> >>> # grep tty /lib

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check [Update]

2015-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:08 AM, German wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:16:32 +0100 wrote: >> wrote: >>> >>> So it seems that after login you first have to chmod 770 the tty >>> before you do a su - user (user have to be in group tty of course). >> >> Forget about "chmod 770". Better do a "chmod

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

2015-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 15/03/2015 00:34, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >>> >>> But let's consider this: what level of chaos would arise if @system were >>> dropped? Surely the problem of tracking all deps would

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check [Update]

2015-03-17 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:42 AM, German wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:03:21 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> Canek had asked whether you were using systemd and therefore logind. >> Since you're using openrc, perhaps you should check whether installing >> cons

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

2015-03-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I also noticed this in the USE flags for systemd: > - - sysv-utils : Install sysvinit compatibility > symlinks and manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot, > runlevel, and shutdown > > Should I enable that USE f

Re: [gentoo-user] blockage

2015-03-22 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > It looks to me like sysvinit-2.88-r7 was stabilized and the maintainer > of apcupsd didn't notice. From the ebuild for apcupsd-3.14.8-r2: > > DEPEND=" > || ( >=sys-apps/util-linux-2.23[tty-helpers] > <=sys-app

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-26 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:53 PM, microcai wrote: > on Sunday 22 March 2015 02:32:00,German wrote: >> >> /sbin/poweroff says "Must be a superuser" :( > > then it's high time for you to trash away sysvint and openrc, and try > systemd!!! I doubt that Fedora developers and users would be happy to kn

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. If enabled (I think > it is by default, may be wrong) you can use ctrl-alt-sysrq plus one these keys > even if your kernel panics or freezes in most cases (ctrl may only be nee

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

2015-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: >>> >>> Easy to remember as "Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken" >> >> I remember it as the reverse of "busier". > > A variant I read somewhere is "Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly > Boring". > "Skinny" is an extra optional sync,

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev?

2013-12-06 Thread Tom Wijsman
ore because at this point in time sys-apps/openrc brings the file 'functions.sh' which contains some crucial functions used by those other packages. This is tracked in https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373219 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail a

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-06 Thread Tom Wijsman
t with the output of `emerge --info`? Thank you in advance. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any way out of this...?

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
ev-208::gentoo, installed) This is the actual problem, which I have already covered; just enable the openrc-force USE flag on =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1 or alternatively mask >=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8. You need to put -openrc-force in /etc/portage/profile/use.mask to sta

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
x27;t want this so I suggest you to add "gnome-base/gconf" and "media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf" to package.mask. By doing so, you will be warned when something depends on it in the future. In this case you will find that net-im/pidgin[gstreamer] depends on it; thus, you will

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-libs/efl-1.8.0_beta2 fails to emerge on x86

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
advance. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
to set up a voice call in gtalk. > > Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to > use gstreamer? Seems so, you'll need to check with upstream or with the code for more details; but it is just one small package though. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (T

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any way out of this...?

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
ing to go through unnecessary maintenance by the changes that might happen with their dependencies. PS: This does not imply that I consider other init systems or DEs as bad; I would switch to OpenRC if logid would be forked and boot time decreased (although Patrick demonstrated in a blog post you

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
I think we will never be there, because systemd is not often listed as a dependency (only on ~2 or so GNOME packages?) compared to something like ncurses that is listed all over the place... -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Pu

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:32:12 -0500 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > A stable ebuild being broken is concerning, the above feels like a > > bug to me; can you file a bug and attach the complete build log and > > comment with the

Re: [gentoo-user] booting with kernel 3.10.17 - services fail to start. Help, please!

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
ll > not, at least not yet, since it's 2737 lines long. You can attach it to the email if needed. > Please help me sort out this bug. Thanks! I hope /var/log/messages or /var/log/rc.log contains more details for us, to help you out; could you share those (attach or pastebin)? -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS kernel bug

2013-12-08 Thread Tom Wijsman
t regressed, I cannot check in which versions that bad commit is present for (1); though it is definitely limited to versions lower than v3.10.16 as evidenced earlier. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] > > Out of sheer curiousity, what needs gnome-base/gconf? The output tells you; pidgin needs gst-plugins-gconf, which needs gconf. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GP

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Wijsman
rior to running 'make distclean'. > > Lesson learnt. :'( Yeah, you will only want to run this if you really need to run it; in common, just starting from `make` after having done configuration changes suffice. You only really need a distclean with a broken build. -- With ki

"Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Wijsman
people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > > Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail add

Re: "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:13:16 -0600 Bruce Hill wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 05:49:30PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600 > > Bruce Hill wrote: > > > > > From: Bruce Hill > > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org &g

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

2013-12-17 Thread Tom Wijsman
is that? > > It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope > you don't get as offended as some other person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@g

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd service file for http-replicator

2013-12-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
s/http-replicator.service, +files/http-replicator.service.conf, +http-replicator-3.0-r4.ebuild,+http-replicator-4.0_alpha2-r4.ebuild: Add unit file (#492502 by Joerg Neikes) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Finge

Re: [gentoo-user] Can not update @world

2013-12-31 Thread Tom Wijsman
; but note though, that GNOME 2 is near the end of its times so it might be removed some point in the future. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD

Re: [gentoo-user] media-libs/harfbuzz-0.9.23::gentoo failed (compile phase)

2014-01-08 Thread Tom Wijsman
w_bug.cgi?id=497562 so the maintainers can resolve this? You can CC yourself on that bug to keep track of its resolution. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -uD @system with lots of blocks!

2014-01-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
them. But, before doing that; just trying to emerge again after resolving the block might work as well, so, try that first to spare out work. :) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 A

Re: [gentoo-user] Frustrating error message from layman

2014-01-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
contents would be like this: PORTDIR_OVERLAY=" /var/lib/layman/aaa /var/lib/layman/bbb $PORTDIR_OVERLAY /usr/local/portage" > Are the file perms okay? I tried chown-ing everything to > portage:portage but that didn't change anything. I'm stumped. Unsure

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failed for sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
ttps://bugs.gentoo.org and attach all the requested information? At the very least comment with the output of `emerge --info` and attach the complete build.log. Thank you very much in advance. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Purged gnome, lost X. :-(

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
x27;s going on here? You'll want to start with inspecting ~/.xinitrc; from there on, look into the configuration of both your session and X itself. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint :

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge failed for sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:19:23 -0800 walt wrote: > On 01/11/2014 02:32 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 17:16:36 -0500 > > Andrew Penhorwood wrote: > > > >> * ERROR: sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2::gentoo failed (compile > >> phase): > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge failed for sys-devel/binutils-2.23.2

2014-01-11 Thread Tom Wijsman
other mail; you can add -mno-avx at the end of your CFLAGS in /etc/portage/make.conf to avoid the usage of AVX. This is just a wild guess, but I've seen this helping other Linode customers earlier that had similar problems; so, it might help you. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij)

Re: [gentoo-user] Purged gnome, lost X. :-(

2014-01-12 Thread Tom Wijsman
d directories under $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS. The latter defaults to /etc/xdg and I think /etc/xdg/autostart/ might be of interest to investigate here as well. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg Configuration Acer Aspire One

2014-01-27 Thread Tom Wijsman
#x27;s hard to tell which one is correct looking at that, I think it needs some trial and error trying to trim the file down in order to get an idea what is what. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Kworker use >80% of CPU

2014-03-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
ution when searching this online. As a second question, to figure out what '8' is; take a look at `cat /proc/interrupts` where the last one or two columns of that line give it a name. Feel free to share both `dmesg` and that output with us. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWi

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-03-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
smaller patches that also spare out time; if you are interested, you can find them by searching for him on the mailing list. However, I think those other patches will be in a release soon.) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] acroread 9.5.5 segfault

2014-03-19 Thread Tom Wijsman
t "Segmentation fault". Relevant bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488918 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Kworker use >80% of CPU

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:39:58 +0400 Gleb Klochkov wrote: > Tom, thank you for your answer. > > $ dmesg >> http://bpaste.net/show/187533/ There this can be seen: [ 18.074574] [drm] Wrong MCH_SSKPD value: 0x16040307 [ 18.074575] [drm] This can cause pipe underr

Re: [gentoo-user] using git to track (gentoo) server configs ?

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
ill be able to do that; given it is completely on the server, anything between the most general and the most specific things is entirely in your control. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse dies after a few minutes

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
rrors; they could reveal the underlying reason and/or the source of it. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
possible to disable this > stuff in kernel and guess what will be done on my systems. Similar claims again, without any weight; that is subjective opinion. > > > Looks broken. Broken by design. The worst form of broken. > > > > By your opinion, not others. > > T

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
whereas the full picture includes a lot more than that (eg. core libraries), so, a good winning strategy is to spare money for the rest out there. (Where "winning" means preventing your world from falling apart) -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
something like a 10K line program, is easy to fix. [1] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
ed an > entangled particles paradox as an example of its "flawed" nature. > Though as we know these days such systems exist and are quite well > used in numerous experiments. My point is simple: do not blindly > adhere to someone's words, even if this person has high au

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
as the result of a lack of manpower to support multiple systems. Others aren't stopped from forking and/or wrapping XFCE to (also) support other login facilities than logind; well, under the assumption that they would limit their support... -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
, some "no parents" messages during slot conflict output were nuked, ... If I can type that as part of this mail, people could follow logind. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
shown in this script. [1]: https://gist.github.com/TomWij/a13abacfb74999c10957 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
ouldn't; it's a tool for "select"ing from multiple runtime things, that it would (un)install something as part of it would be odd, kind of makes one remember the UNIX philosophy of doing one thing right. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail add

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
age; the other first install things are documented. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
something else should do an appropriate > job. It is actively being worked on from what can be seen. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
proach for systemd > proponents to get systemd added to gentoo as a formally supported > *optional* init system. +1 > Then, and only then, can it be judged on its *merits*, +1 > and then and *only* then should it (imnsho) ever be considered as a > potential candidate for

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:22:22 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 20/03/2014 20:57, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > Well, running systemd now I can reboot into OpenRC; it just works. > > How is this done? Here, two GRUB entries; alternatively, eselect init to switch symlinks. > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 02:27:11 +0600 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:00:27 +0100 Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will > > > be. > > > > Do you have a source that backs up this claim? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] ca-certificates: untrusted certificate messages during configure

2014-03-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
org/show_bug.cgi?id=475352 (QA involved) Also make sure you have read the post installation messages. Other than that, I suggest you wait until resolution; there have been reports here and there, so, I assume it'll be fixed in the near future. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Deve

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
ng to do a more complicated migration later on. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:23:05 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/20/2014 4:00 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:53:51 +0400 > > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be. > > > Do you have

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:25:18 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/20/2014 4:14 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > Tom - please STOP CC'ing me on these emails. > > I am on the list and don't need two copies. > > Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or wors

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
that fits those needs. Also: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/configure.ac#n798 -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
arseable text from journalctl, > then that is less then useless. Why? There are other output methods. See the man pages... > I would expect an export option providing the same detail level as I > currently find in /var/log/messages. That's what you can control with the various options

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
S Windows Event-viewer has very nice filtering capabilities; beyond that, the detailed information gives you the error code that you can look up in the documentation. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG F

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
tweb/?p=proj/openrc.git;a=log http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/openrc.git;a=shortlog -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
sion in the log and/or summary as they come online; for further details, you can read up here: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:50:23 +0100 "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > Tom, > > Please reply to list. No need to include me in the recipient list. Please filter duplicate mails. No need to tell each other this. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html http://woozle.org/~neale/pa

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
> mailing list. Here's a hint. Lots of people appear to respond to me. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

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