[gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

Using "emerge --update foo" adds "foo" to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is there any reason to desire the current behavior? I'd like to suggest that it be fixed, but want to be sure I'm not just bei

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/01/2012 05:06 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Using "emerge --update foo" adds "foo" to your world file. This is responsible for pretty much every package that incorrectly found its way into one of my world files. Is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/01/2012 05:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not clear. Why does one ever bother with emerge -u package? In 10 years of Gentoo I've managed to get by with basically either emerge package to add something or emerge -DuN @world to stay updated. (or @system in the old days but no longer...) Usu

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/01/2012 05:54 PM, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: Actually, -u doesn't mean update, means filter packages that are not updatable (are already the most recent version). It's a filter option, not an action. Portage doesn't work with actions. I can see that this view is logically cons

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/01/2012 07:09 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:07:45 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Usually it's because a world update wants to do both trivial version bumps and replace major software at the same time. I can't take a server down for an hour in the middle of

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 05:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: You have a production machine delivering valuable services to multiple users. Therefore you must only update *anything* on it during planned maintenance slots. If paying customers are involved then preferably with a second redundant parallel machine

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 08:36 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 05:06:32 -0600, Dale wrote: That's why I fixed the new way to be closer to what I am used to. I added --oneshot to my make.conf. When I really need to add something to world, I just use --select y -nav. To me, that is a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 10:05 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: So when the user tells portage to emerge (not merge) something it goes in world as obviously that's what the user wanted. Presumably the user knows what they are doing and can deal with both pieces. If the user would rather have software hold his hand

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 10:31 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Uh-oh... I've *never* used -1 unless I'm trying to fix a broken package by recompiling it... I've always just used emerge -vuDN world... Been doing it this way for 7+ years, and never had a problem, so my question is: What 'harmful' thing has been hap

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 10:35 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-01-01 6:22 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: 2) I forget the -1 sometimes when I do an individual package update. However I generally remember to go back and hand edit the world file once a quarter or so and remove anything that isn't a real application, et

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 11:01 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I tell by knowing which files I want in @world. Everything in world should be a package __I__ specifically want to use. Everything in world (on my machines anyway) is something: 1) I'd call from the command line 2) Need to write a little software myse

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 11:22 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not clear. You allow your server customers to modify your servers, or what, they asked you to install stuff and now you don't know which of them was needed and why? I'm just not clear. They ask us to install stuff, and now we don't know which ones

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 11:16 AM, Michael Mol wrote: Fine for your home PC, doesn't cut it on servers. I have the following in one of my world files: dev-php/PEAR-Mail dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime dev-php/PEAR-PEAR dev-php/PEAR-Structures_Graph which of those do I want? At least one of them was instal

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 11:25 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Look at it this way: with emerge you tell portage to install a package and add it to world. Period. The package will be installed, no matter whether it’s at the newest version or not. With -u, however, you tell emerge to only do the installatio

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/12 12:06, Michael Mol wrote: > > That's the purpose of the "emerge -p" step. Presumably, you would see > that there's a package in the list that you're not comfortable with > removing, you'd decide you didn't want it removed, and you'd add it > back to your world set. Yeah, I'm not sure

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/12 12:29, Mark Knecht wrote: > > That works for the case where the software is managed by portage, > which is likely 99.% of what's on Gentoo systems worldwide. It > doesn't work however for the odd case where I write some little > program which requires a library (ta-lib in my portag

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: > > I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really > feels more like administrator error than tool error. As someone else > remarked, it's portage's job to do what you tell it to do; you point > the gun, pull the trigger, it delivers the p

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/12 12:47, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Again, 'equery depends' will tell you if any package locatable through > the @world hierarchy needs the package. No need to uninstall anything > to do that level of investigation. revdep-rebuild -I is also useful, > although more historically than now. >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/12 13:07, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Michael Orlitzky > wrote: >> On 01/02/12 12:45, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>> I hope you don't take this as a kind of disrespect, but this really >>> feels more like administ

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 03:50 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:55:19 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: New behavior: user error permanently breaks your world file. It is not permanently broken, that implies it would stop the system working. It is merely damaged, and repairable. It may take

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: cocktail Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have to dig through dep graphs to find the full dep list): First run emerge -p to find all the packages that will be

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 04:25 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: No one has offered up a way to fix it yet, or a downside to the old behavior. Yes they have. Remove anything in the least suspect and emerge -cp. Then emerge -n anything listed that you

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 04:28 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:18:23 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Requires time travel, not a solution! Fine. Stick with your broken system and ignore any suggestions to either repair the damage you have already done or to avoid future damage. Blame it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 04:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/02/2012 04:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: cocktail Neil's suggestion of sets sounds like what you want here. Unfortunately it only works smoothly on first emerge (later on you have t

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 04:58 PM, Michael Mol wrote: Ah. I must have gotten confused at "So which ones can I remove? Solutions involving time travel and/or losing customers will be disqualified." Sorry, this thread has gotten a little out of hand =) I think my point was: most solutions available to me

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 05:41 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:33:04 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Yes they have. Remove anything in the least suspect and emerge -cp. Then emerge -n anything listed that you need. I don't know which ones I need, and I can't just remove them an

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 06:29 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:11:15 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: If I know that I have been careful in the past, this is not a problem, since the contents of world will be accurate. However, I'm a little worried that I may have forgotten --onesho

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 06:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:08:44 -0500 Michael Orlitzky wrote: Making your software punish its users isn't going to make them more careful, it's going to make them stop using your software. If bash did an 'rm -rf /' when you

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 07:04 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:50 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: And now finally we have Zac, a brave man who has taken on the thankless task of sorting the mess out. Most of his deep changes over the past two years or so are to make things consistent

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior

On 01/02/2012 07:22 PM, Dale wrote: I always knew I was "odd". Looks like I have some company tho. Welcome to the "odd user" group Michael. It ain't us =)

Re: [gentoo-user] libacl mess : further thoughts

On 08/20/2010 11:02 AM, Philip Webb wrote: 100820 Philip Webb wrote: The next step seems to be to unpack the whole Stage 3 tarball in the netbook's / dir& see what happens. After that, a full reinstall. Further examination of what's in Stage 3 + review of my detailed notes from installatio

Re: [gentoo-user] Feckless xdm not much of a manager

On 08/25/2010 03:37 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I had more or less the opposite case -- a running daemon that was marked as stopped. Not exactly, because it was xdm marked as stopped, and kdm that was running. This problem is repeatable on my system, so I probably borked it somehow. Please acce

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox (Namoroka-3.6.8, actually) and Epiphany-2.31-r1 both fail to show captchas

On 08/26/2010 04:29 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On a number of websites, I've been unable to see the "captcha" that I need to complete my business. Neither the image nor the response show up. Opera, on the other hand, works fine (as does IE o

Re: [gentoo-user] Fire the fox.

On 09/24/2010 06:16 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Stroller > wrote: >> >> On 24 Sep 2010, at 20:15, Bill Longman wrote: > ... >>Uh, what are PGO and ICC?? >> >>I also must add that I get decent performance from the fox on >>Ubuntu l

Re: [gentoo-user] Finalizing my backup system

On 09/26/2010 03:13 PM, Grant wrote: > I'm using backupninja to backup data from my laptop, desktop, and > remote server onto a remote desktop system. backupninja is very > simple and is really just an interface to a few other programs > including rdiff-backup. I'm not worried about a good restor

Re: [gentoo-user] Finalizing my backup system

On 10/06/2010 01:40 PM, Grant wrote: >>> I'm using backupninja to backup data from my laptop, desktop, and >>> remote server onto a remote desktop system. backupninja is very >>> simple and is really just an interface to a few other programs >>> including rdiff-backup. I'm not worried about a goo

Re: [gentoo-user] Finalizing my backup system

On 10/06/2010 05:43 PM, Grant wrote: > > I see what you're saying but don't I need to use the ssh command in > order to use the rdiff-backup command? > > - Grant > You shouldn't have to, rdiff-backup does it on its own. When you execute e.g., rdiff-backup /home usern...@backup.example.com::h

Re: [gentoo-user] IP aliasing problem

On 10/06/2010 06:17 PM, Grant wrote: > I'm confused because I have in apache2 config: > > > ... > SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/www.example1.com.crt > SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache2/ssl/www.example1.com.key > ... > > > ... > SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache2/ssl/www.example2.com.crt > S

Re: [gentoo-user] Accessing CVS on non-standard port

On 11/24/2010 04:35 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I need to get to the work CVS server from home. It's not exposed to the > internet but never fear! we have ssh -L and a convenient sshd host that is on > the internets. So, locally > > ssh -Llocalhost::cvs.example.com:22 a...@gateway.example.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Should mysql crash sometimes?

On 11/29/2010 08:46 AM, Grant wrote: >>> I'm told I need to run mysqld with --skip-grant-tables. I'm used to >>> using Gentoo's mysql initscript. Should 'mysqld --skip-grant-tables' >>> work? >> >> You can add it to /etc/mysql/my.cnf and restart. Remove it and restart again >> when you've finishe

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel section mismatch(es)

On 12/27/10 23:06, Michael J. Barillier wrote: > I'm trying to compile a hardened kernel (linux-2.6.36-hardened-r6) and > the build is generating thousands (literally) of section mismatch > warnings. I've copied my old .config (2.6.31, non-hardened) to the root > of the source tree and did a `make

Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior

On 01/04/11 14:42, Grant wrote: > > Thank you, that fixed it. I'm getting some errors in squirrelmail but > functionality seems to be intact. > > Since things seem to be working with php-5.3.4, how can I get rid of > the older version of php that must be installed in another slot? I'm > hoping

Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior

On 01/05/2011 06:13 PM, Grant wrote: >>> Thank you, that fixed it. I'm getting some errors in squirrelmail but >>> functionality seems to be intact. >>> >>> Since things seem to be working with php-5.3.4, how can I get rid of >>> the older version of php that must be installed in another slot? I'

Re: [gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.

Way back when I first got an X2 they couldn't keep time for whatever reason. I used to have to add something like "clock=pmtmr notsc" to the kernel command line to make it behave. That issue was fixed in a later kernel, but you could start adding clock options to your kernel command line and pray

Re: [gentoo-user] Slotted PHP behavior

On 01/15/2011 12:55 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2011-01-05 7:21 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> A ton of crap broke with the PHP 5.2 -> 5.3 upgrade. In theory, this >> will help with future upgrades; but I'm not sure how, since I can't >> *run* both versions at t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Rail Model font for coders

On 01/20/11 17:08, Nuno J. Silva wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras writes: > >> On 01/20/2011 11:14 AM, >> hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com > > I am against hard limits on username lengths, but I think that > uuencoding the result of gzippi

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - Code translation tools?

On 01/24/2011 05:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hello, >I'm wondering if there are any generic sorts of code translation > tools in portage wherein I could translate from an 'uncommon' language > no one here is likely to use (EasyLanguage) into C? > >As an example I've attached a little EL fu

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - Code translation tools?

On 01/26/2011 12:56 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Michael, >Thanks for the inputs. It gives me more to think about. > >In this case the input language is interpreted, not compiled. The > trading platform interprets the program and internally turns it into > buy & sell operations. (Not the piece

Re: [gentoo-user] Spamassassin

On 01/26/2011 01:25 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > is it possible to configure Spamassassin to filter out spam-mail, > if the mail contains certain keywords and/or the subject line match > a certain pattern without diving too deep into the source and the > ruleset of spamassassin? Th

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - Code translation tools?

On 01/26/2011 02:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > REALLY great points about the math issues. Thanks. > > As for testing it _may_ be a slight bit easier than having to get to > that level. There is a library in portage called ta-lib which > implements lots of standard technical analysis constructs. A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Laptop Looks to be Trashed

On 07/03/12 17:16, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 03/07/12 21:35, Florian Philipp wrote: >> Am 03.07.2012 20:00, schrieb David Kuhl: >>> I'm so stuck with this Gentoo laptop. It started with a standard >>> update which was the first in three months. Then when the X didn't >>> run due to xorg-serve

[gentoo-user] Persistent ulimit for daemons

Is there a blessed method these days for setting the ulimit per-daemon? The best I've been able to do is a global setting in /etc/rc.conf: rc_ulimit="-s 1048576" The entries under /etc/security seem to be ignored when using `/etc/init.d/foo start`.

Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent ulimit for daemons

On 08/01/12 11:27, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> Is there a blessed method these days for setting the ulimit per-daemon? >> >> The best I've been able to do is a global setting in /etc/rc.conf: >> >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent ulimit for daemons

On 08/02/12 01:52, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:41:41 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> Is there a blessed method these days for setting the ulimit per-daemon? >> >> The best I've been able to do is a global setting in /etc/rc.conf: >> >&

Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent ulimit for daemons

On 08/03/2012 12:44 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > I do get 4096. > Just had another good look at my notes, I also changed the init-file (Added > the ulimit-statement here): > *** > ... > ebegin "Starting ${SVCNAME}" > ulimit -n 4096 > ${APACHE2} ${APACHE2_OPTS} -k sta

Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent ulimit for daemons

On 08/03/2012 01:08 AM, Graham Murray wrote: > Michael Orlitzky writes: > >> Is there a blessed method these days for setting the ulimit per-daemon? >> >> The best I've been able to do is a global setting in /etc/rc.conf: >> >> rc_ulimit="-s 10485

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling qemu breaks

On 08/05/2012 06:02 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > trying to compile qemu breaks for me with: Downgrading texi2html should work around it until the bug gets fixed: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416037

Re: [gentoo-user] Generate an ebuild for mldonkey-3.1.3

On 09/14/2012 04:58 AM, Alexandre Paz Mena wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to generate an ebuild for mldonkey-3.1.3 from version > 3.1.0 in a "x86_64" machine. > > To manually compile de project I have to export LDFLAGS="-png15" before > running ./configure > > the problem is that I don't know how to exp

Re: [gentoo-user] Generate an ebuild for mldonkey-3.1.3

On 09/15/2012 11:59 AM, Alexandre Paz Mena wrote: > > Thanks, I'll post a bug to upstream. > > Meanwhile, instead of adding libs, I worked adding them to econf. > > But a new problem has appeared, mldonkey-3.1.3 seems to not have a > init.d script. I thought that was the ebuild work, but both eb

Re: [gentoo-user] Generate an ebuild for mldonkey-3.1.3

On 09/16/12 04:20, Alexandre Paz Mena wrote: > Ok, thank you very much! > > Apart from that, I should add those files to the dependencies, right? Nope, all you should have to do is copy the net-p2p/mldonkey/files directory into the corresponding directory in your overlay. The "2.9.5-execstacks.p

Re: [gentoo-user] Disable change owner or permissions after emerge

On 09/24/2012 10:16 AM, Alexander Y. Tiurin wrote: > Hello! > How disable change owner or permissions of a file after emerge atom? > For example: before upgrade pnp4nagios: > If it's under /etc (or any directory under $CONFIG_PROTECT), you can add a comment to the file. Then portage will create i

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: shot an XFS-filesystem, oh my

On 09/26/2012 04:13 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > I had an XFS-filesystem within a KVM-VM (32 bit Gentoo, so it isn't that > off-topic, btw ;-) ) > > ... and I did a lot of work within that filesystem over the last 2 days. > > Unfortunately it ran full so I decided to shutdown the VM, use

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Questions about building from source tarball

On 10/30/2012 04:56 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Several years ago, back in the days of Mozilla 0.9x and Phoenix, I > used to build Mozilla and/or Pheonix from the source tarball. I've been > using Gentoo for years, and I've forgotten a lot about building manually > from source. I asked this questi

Re: [gentoo-user] Daylight time change and cron run twice

On 11/04/2012 03:16 PM, Michael George wrote: > Local time changes of less than three hours, such as those > caused by the start or end of Daylight Saving Time, are handled > specially. This only applies to jobs that run at a specific > time and jo

Re: [gentoo-user] Daylight time change and cron run twice

On 11/06/2012 06:24 AM, Michael George wrote: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 06:36:50PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 11/04/2012 03:16 PM, Michael George wrote: >>> Local time changes of less than three hours, such as those >>> caused by the star

Re: [gentoo-user] Daylight time change and cron run twice

On 11/06/2012 09:29 AM, Dale wrote: > > Well, I'm medicated so pardon me if I get silly. What is the BEST cron > to use? I'm using vixie-cron since that is what was in the handbook > during my install. Let's not get into how long ago that was. lol So, > what cron has . . . well. . . the least

Re: [gentoo-user] davical & thunderbird

On 11/06/2012 05:10 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Does anyone of you use davical with thunderbird? > > Especially the carddav part with those sogo-connector/integrator addons? > > I try to move around 600 adresses in there and it always somehow stalls > or shows incorrect numbers. > > I r

Re: [gentoo-user] davical & thunderbird

On 11/07/2012 02:57 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 2012-11-07 01:48, schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > >> I tried too. It doesn't work. I guess this is our best hope? >> >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546932 > > oh my ;) > > Is it

Re: [gentoo-user] Share /home with Gentoo and Ubuntu

On 11/27/2012 12:34 PM, Randy Westlund wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a new gentoo user (coming from ubuntu). I've been proving to > myself that I can do everything I need with gentoo on a secondary > laptop, and after a few weeks, I think I've got it (svn repos, AVR > cross compiler, multiple screens, etc

Re: [gentoo-user] Restrict certain web users by IP

On 11/29/2012 03:43 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Run two vhosts that deliver the same content from the same DocumentRoot > > One has jack and jill as users in htpasswd with no acls in place > The other has john and jacob as users in a different htpasswd with IP > acls in place > > Trying to spec

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?

On 11/30/12 08:05, 2sb7...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi, >> this is nuissance all the time. >> >> Updating a machine which hasn't been updated for a long(er) time I try >> >> emerge -vup --changed-use --deep --tree --with-bdeps y @system >> @world >/root/UPD >> >> But many times this stops prematurel

Re: [gentoo-user] Restrict certain web users by IP

On 11/30/12 03:37, Grant wrote: > > I like this idea since it means I don't need to mess with another domain > name. The only problem I'm running into is one of the applications on > the server doesn't work with www.example.com/jackjill/app > , it only works w

Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp alternatives: msmtp vs. dma

On 12/05/2012 12:28 AM, Grant wrote: > I was setting up ssmtp but I realized it isn't being maintained and > there are a couple of alternatives called msmtp and dma. Can anyone > recommend one of these over the other? > > I don't like how ssmtp stores the mail password in clear text in its > conf

Re: [gentoo-user] ssmtp alternatives: msmtp vs. dma

On 12/05/2012 01:43 AM, Grant wrote: >> >> I switched to msmtp when nbsmtp was treecleaned. The switch was >> uneventful; it just works, which is high praise. >> >> You can't encrypt your password unless you're going to be physically >> present to decrypt it (with some other password). If your mach

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing specific layman packages & eix-test-obsolete

On 12/09/2012 01:13 AM, Grant wrote: > I need to be able to install only certain packages from a layman overlay > so I do stuff like this: > > package.mask: > */*::perl-experimental > > package.unmask: > perl-core/CPAN::perl-experimental > > This really freaks out eix-test-obsolete. Does anyone

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing specific layman packages & eix-test-obsolete

On 12/09/2012 04:01 PM, Grant wrote: > > If my package.mask is empty, eix-test-obsolete runs fine. If I have > this in package.mask: > > */*::init6 > > eix-test-obsolete find over 27,000 packages under this heading: > > Redundant in /etc/portage/package.mask: > ... considered as REDUNDANT_IF_M

Re: [gentoo-user] System maintenance procedure?

On 12/11/2012 08:36 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 04:48:24PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> workstation ~ # emerge -a @preserved-rebuild >>> emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set >>> emerge: no targets left after set expansion >> >> So you have nothing that needs rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] crontab questions

On 12/11/2012 04:15 PM, Grant wrote: > Is there a way to remove "Cron " from the subject line of > crontab mail without piping each cron job to 'mail'? > > I set 'usermod -c hostname root' on each of my systems so that the From: > line displays "hostname" for crontab mail. This works on each syst

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sets syntax (@world vs. world)

On 12/12/2012 06:53 AM, Francesco Turco wrote: > Hello. > > A couple of weeks ago I filed a bug because in the Installation Handbook > I found some references of the "world" set in emerge commands, as > opposed to "@world": https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445184 > > The bug was closed as

Re: [gentoo-user] crontab questions

On 12/12/2012 05:09 PM, Grant wrote: >> >> at roughly the time specified in /etc/crontab. If any of those >> directories contain scripts, they're run in "alphabetical" order, i.e. >> how `ls` would sort them. > > Thanks Michael. I'd like to have more control over when the commands > are run. May

Re: [gentoo-user] crontab questions

On 12/14/2012 09:36 PM, Grant wrote: > > I got it working in /etc/crontab. Should I file a bug for > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml to mention that vixie-cron > must be restarted when making changes to /etc/crontab? It says: > > "Note that only Vixie-cron schedules jobs in /etc/cro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

On 12/17/2012 12:44 AM, Dale wrote: >> > > > Question. A file system, /usr for example, is mounted read only. The > system crashes for whatever reason such as a power failure. Since it is > mounted read only, would there be a larger or smaller risk of corrupted > data on that partition? From

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

On 12/17/2012 01:09 AM, Dale wrote: > > So, since I have /usr separate from the rest, I could mount it read only > and reduce the chance of corruption if say my UPS failed? I already do > this for /boot. Interesting. Very interesting indeed. > > If the other issues happen, computers is likely

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} open-source: chat, tasks, resources, code

On 12/17/2012 02:26 AM, Grant wrote: > When I need a new web-based software tool, I consider writing it myself > and if that isn't feasible I try to use something open-source and > self-hosted. I need something for chat, task management, resource > management, and code management, all for groups.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} open-source: chat, tasks, resources, code

On 12/17/2012 12:05 PM, Michele Beltrame wrote: > Hello! > >>* Gitolite > > Gitolite is not that difficult to setup... you just need to follow the > simple instructions... it works in most cases. ;) > It's not that it's hard to /get working/, it's tha

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} open-source: chat, tasks, resources, code

On 12/17/2012 07:56 PM, Grant wrote: > >> If all you need to do is host git repositories, I suggest putting bare >> repos on a server somewhere and having everyone push/pull over SSH. You >> can use the bare-bones gitweb (comes with git in portage) to view the >> repos from a web browser. You'll n

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} open-source: chat, tasks, resources, code

On 12/17/2012 08:59 PM, Grant wrote: > > Thank you for taking the time to explain this. You just sextupled my > git knowledge. It does sound easy. Would a basic layout like this plus > gitweb plus fugitive/gitv yield a git setup that wouldn't feel lacking > for collaboration amongst a few peopl

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem installing PHP pdo

On 12/22/2012 08:55 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm not a PHP programmer, so I'm a bit out of my water. But, I'm trying > to install the latest eGroupware and need to get PHP to support pdo > database connectivigy. > > After a recent emerge --sync, I did a new emerge of php with --newuse

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem installing PHP pdo

On 12/23/2012 03:44 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: > > I did an emerge -s for pdo and didn't find anything so I followed the > directions given on the eGroupware installation guide and ran: > > pecl install pdo > > Is there an ebuild that I should/could use instead? > Yep, it's a USE flag for dev-lang/

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem installing PHP pdo

On 12/23/2012 04:36 PM, Mike Diehl wrote: > Forgive the top-posting, but I think my response will be more concise this > way. > > I have pdo in my USE flag in /etc/make.conf, so I thought I had this > covered. > Does it show up in emerge --info? If not, you might have a typo. If so, it's probabl

Re: [gentoo-user] Good/better/best filesystem for large, static video library?

On 12/25/2012 12:07 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> On Dec 25, 2012 10:44 PM, "Mark Knecht" wrote: > >>>With the previous local drive I used ext3 and have had no problems. >>> I'm just wondering if there's a better choice & why. > >> >> Fo

Re: [gentoo-user] IPTABLES syntax change?

On 12/26/2012 07:47 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Many years ago, I understood IPCHAINS, and the first versions of > IPTABLES. However, IPTABLES has followed the example of Larry Wall's > Practical Extraction and Reporting Language > and turned into a pseudo-OS that I barely comprehend. Some rules >

Re: [gentoo-user] IPTABLES syntax change?

On 12/27/12 06:28, Graham Murray wrote: > Michael Orlitzky writes: > >> The 'conntrack' module is supposed to be a superset of 'state', so most >> things should be compatible. You really have two warnings there; the >> first is for the state -&

Re: [gentoo-user] IPTABLES syntax change?

On 12/27/12 12:52, Matthias Hanft wrote: > Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> My first -m state rule is, >>iptables -A INPUT -p ALL -m state \ >> --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT > > That was mine, too (you can omit -p in this case, can't you?). Ye

Re: [gentoo-user] IPTABLES syntax change?

On 12/27/2012 06:11 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:28:15AM +, Graham Murray wrote > >> The problem is not really the OP's fault. The problem is that if you >> have tables with the form "-m state --state XXX" at the point you >> upgrade, iptables-save (quite possibly called

Re: [gentoo-user] IPTABLES syntax change?

On 12/27/2012 10:59 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Here's my revised "Paranoia Plus" ruleset. Any comments? Because I'm > behind a NAT-ing ADSL router/modem, many of my rules rarely see hits. > However, I do have a backup dialup connection in case of problems, so > most of my rules don't specify t

Re: [gentoo-user] IPTABLES syntax change?

I'm sure I made more than one typo, but the ALLOWED_ICMP below definitely needs a dollar sign. > > for ok_icmp in ALLOWED_ICMP; do > iptables -A ICMP_IN -p icmp --icmp-type "${ok_icmp}" -j ACCEPT > done >

Re: [gentoo-user] php CURRENT_TIMESTAMP vs NOW()

On 12/28/2012 01:44 AM, Joseph wrote: > I'm not a PHP programmer but I'll try to explain my problem. > I've create table in my php database: > > DROP TABLE IF EXISTS visual_verify_code; > CREATE TABLE visual_verify_code ( >oscsid varchar(32) NOT NULL, >code varchar(6) NOT NULL, >dt TIM

Re: [gentoo-user] php CURRENT_TIMESTAMP vs NOW()

On 12/28/12 10:56, Joseph wrote: > > Your are correct, when I removed the quotes it worked. > > I'm backing it up through the backup.php sript that came with > osCommerce, I can post it but it is a long one. > I am... familiar... with osCommerce. You will be much better off doing a mysqldump if

Re: [gentoo-user] php CURRENT_TIMESTAMP vs NOW()

On 12/28/12 12:51, Joseph wrote: > > Yes, I run osCommerce on my server. > Is the manuall command: > > mysqldump --opt -ppassword catalog > catalog_backup.sql > I think --opt is on by default, but yes, that should do it. If you would like to automate the backup (say, nightly), you can add the f

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