On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:49:50 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > I always do both except I use the lower case 'u'. I started using
> > Gentoo back in 2003. Over the years, I added/changed options to
> > emerge until I got a good sane system that works as expected and is
> > stable. My command i
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:10:32 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> !'ve asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got:
>
> Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N:
>
> emerge -U: This option upgrades the specified package(s) to the latest
> available version. It will fir
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 06:44:03 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> After update I get:
> * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating.
>
> What is this, don't remember seeing it before.
>
> cfg-update -u
> doesn't give me an option to view it.
/etc/mtab should be a symlink to /proc/se
jul...@jroy.ca wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:10 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 4/10/23 18:53, Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got:
>>
>> Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N:
>>
>> emerge -U: This option upgrades the spe
the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> After update I get:
> * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating.
>
> What is this, don't remember seeing it before.
>
> cfg-update -u
> doesn't give me an option to view it.
>
>
>
I saw this the other day as well. I just skipped it. Still, it made me
won
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:49:50 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>>> I always do both except I use the lower case 'u'. I started using
>>> Gentoo back in 2003. Over the years, I added/changed options to
>>> emerge until I got a good sane system that works as expected and is
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:33:38 BST Dale wrote:
> The info from the man page is correct.
Of course it is. There'd be uproar if it weren't.
> They do two different things. The -N will mean more recompiles of packages
> but it also means that when a USE flag change is made, it also changes any
Hello list,
What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage (~amd64)?
At first I thought "that's useful", but after a while I concluded that it just
adds to the clutter on the screen and actually impedes my ability to follow
progress.
Perhaps I'm just being a Grumpy Old Man
Peter,
On Tuesday, 2023-04-11 11:19:31 +0100, you wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 06:44:03 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > After update I get:
> > * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating.
> > ...
> /etc/mtab should be a symlink to /proc/self/mounts, so it ought to be kept up
On Wednesday, 15 February 2023 09:56:22 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that
> is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of
> simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that right, but I'm not ther
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 12:03:57 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Peter,
>
> On Tuesday, 2023-04-11 11:19:31 +0100, you wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 06:44:03 BST the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > > After update I get:
> > > * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating.
> > > ...
> >
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:33:38 BST Dale wrote:
>
>> The info from the man page is correct.
> Of course it is. There'd be uproar if it weren't.
>
>> They do two different things. The -N will mean more recompiles of packages
>> but it also means that when a USE flag change
Neil,
On Tuesday, 2023-04-11 08:19:10 +0100, you wrote:
> ...
> So now we kn ow, ChatGPT is case-insensitive, it gave you answers for -u
> and -n.
You aren't really flabbergasted, are you? After all Microsoft is known
for having a particularly soft spot for case-insensitiveness :-)
Sincerely,
On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage (~amd64)?
What messages? Where? When? :P
On 11/04/2023 13:38, Dale wrote:
I saw this the other day as well. I just skipped it. Still, it made me
wonder, given what it does and what should update the file, why should
emerge touch that file?
Because the file belongs to the sys-apps/baselayout package.
It's like fstab. I doubt I'd
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> > (~amd64)?
> What messages? Where? When? :P
They seem to be a feature of sys-apps/portage-3.0.46 and probably 3.0.
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 23:44 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> After update I get:
> * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating.
>
> What is this, don't remember seeing it before.
>
> cfg-update -u
> doesn't give me an option to view it.
>
>
dispatch-conf will show you what is bei
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:14 AM Matt Connell wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 23:44 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > After update I get:
> > * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating.
> >
> > What is this, don't remember seeing it before.
> >
> > cfg-update -u
> > doesn't give me
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> > > (~amd64)?
> > What messages? Where? When? :P
>
> Th
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 09:34 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> cfg-update is a bit crufty, but its main advantage is support for
> 3-way merges, which are usually automated. So if you change one line
> in the middle of a config file you won't have to manually go through
> diffs to re-apply the change ev
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:47 AM Matt Connell wrote:
>
> I usually try not to edit any files that are 'managed' by packages, but
> sometimes it is unavoidable (eg. no thing.conf.d directory support), so
> I wind up having to either accept the change and then re-edit it, or
> zap the change and allo
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:59:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
> (~amd64)? At first I thought "that's useful", but after a while I
> concluded that it just adds to the clutter on the screen and actually
> impedes my ability to follow
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:30:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > -U: if a package doesn't need to be updated on your system today,
> > it'll be left until it does.
> >
> > -N: if any USE flag at all has changed in a package, it'll be
> > recompiled, whether it needs to be on your system or not.
> >
>
>
> W
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:30:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>>> -U: if a package doesn't need to be updated on your system today,
>>> it'll be left until it does.
>>>
>>> -N: if any USE flag at all has changed in a package, it'll be
>>> recompiled, whether it needs to be on your system
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:36:27 BST Arve Barsnes wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > > On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > What does the panel think of these new status messages from
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 10:18:13 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> When I say deeper, I mean it will find more packages that may not be
> >> found otherwise.
> > And -e finds even more - but more is not always better. -U was
> > introduced because -N was causing too many packages to be rebuilt
> > unnecessari
On 2023.04.11 09:14, Matt Connell wrote:
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 23:44 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> After update I get:
> * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating.
>
> What is this, don't remember seeing it before.
>
> cfg-update -u
> doesn't give me an option to view it.
>
>
When USB is inserted, the icon appears on a desktop but it is not aouto mounted.
In settings: Removable Drive and Media -->
- Mount removable drive when hot-plugged (is checked)
Does it have something to do with dbus?
--
Thelma
On 2023.04.10 20:14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
On 4/10/23 17:29, Jack wrote:
On 2023.04.10 18:22, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
On 4/10/23 15:53, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
After upgrading to newest kernel the X will not start.
Is: make oldconfig same as: make olddefconfig ?
Xorg.0.l
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 11:59:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> What does the panel think of these new status messages from portage
>> (~amd64)? At first I thought "that's useful", but after a while I
>> concluded that it just adds to the clutter on the screen and actually
>>
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 09:43 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> When USB is inserted, the icon appears on a desktop but it is not aouto
> mounted.
>
> In settings: Removable Drive and Media -->
> - Mount removable drive when hot-plugged (is checked)
>
> Does it have something to do with dbus?
On 4/11/23 10:15, Matt Connell wrote:
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 09:43 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
When USB is inserted, the icon appears on a desktop but it is not aouto mounted.
In settings: Removable Drive and Media -->
- Mount removable drive when hot-plugged (is checked)
Does it have
On 4/11/23 10:15, Matt Connell wrote:
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 09:43 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
When USB is inserted, the icon appears on a desktop but it is not aouto mounted.
In settings: Removable Drive and Media -->
- Mount removable drive when hot-plugged (is checked)
Does it have
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 11:28 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> Does user need to be in group: plugdev for it to work.
I'm fairly confident that you do, yes.
"Udisks uses polkit to handle permissions. Make sure each user is in
the plugdev group"
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udisks#Configura
On 11/04/2023 18:26, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:36:27 BST Arve Barsnes wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 at 14:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:28:58 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 11/04/2023 13:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
What does the panel think of th
On 4/11/23 14:37, Matt Connell wrote:
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 11:28 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
Does user need to be in group: plugdev for it to work.
I'm fairly confident that you do, yes.
"Udisks uses polkit to handle permissions. Make sure each user is in
the plugdev group"
https
On 4/11/23 09:47, Jack wrote:
[snip]
message after recompiling Nvida driver:
WARN: postinst
Be warned/reminded that the 390.xx branch reached end-of-life and
NVIDIA is no longer fixing issues (including security). Free to keep
using (for now) but it is recommended to either switch to nouveau or
What is the correct way of updating remote system?
I'll need to update the kernel + world
1.) Update all packages in world first, reboot and update kernel
2.) Update kernel first, reboot and update world
It seems to me logical choice is 2.) as I'll need new kernel to update to new
VirtualBox.
R
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 18:21 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> What is the correct way of updating remote system?
> I'll need to update the kernel + world
>
> 1.) Update all packages in world first, reboot and update kernel
> 2.) Update kernel first, reboot and update world
>
> It seems to me
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 20:24 -0400, jul...@jroy.ca wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 18:21 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > What is the correct way of updating remote system?
> > I'll need to update the kernel + world
> >
> > 1.) Update all packages in world first, reboot and update kernel
> >
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