On 24/11/20 23:39, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:25:38 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as
chainloading a "real" partition?
>>>
>>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 06:30:05 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 11/24/2020 10:08 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > I'm getting a kernel panic when booting a new system.
> >
> > kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
> > (0,0)
> >
> > fstab:
>
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 14:18:58 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > My workstation has one NVMe drive and two SATAs. They're always
> > detected in the same order, so I've no need to render my fstab
> > illegible with UUIDs. I could use lab
Hi,
if I try to save a web page containing an illegal character (like
hookrace.net/blog/introduction-to-metaprogramming-in-nim/)
several browser show an error (attached image) and cannot recover from
it. I have no chance to change the filename.
I have to 'xkill' it
What can I do about this?
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 23:46:28 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 11/24/2020 04:21 PM, Michael wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:51:53 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> >> I run gentoo installation from:
> >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks
> >>
Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 14:18:58 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> > > My workstation has one NVMe drive and two SATAs. They're always
>
> > > detected in the same order, so I've no need to render my fstab
>
>
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:54 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions specified with UUIDs?
>
> > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions?
>
> The NVMe drive, the main one, has 18;
So, if all the partitions are on one drive and that is the only drive
you ha
On 25/11/20 13:31, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Now, one area I would use UUIDs is with mdadm if you're not putting
> lvm on top. I've seen mdadm arrays get renumbered and that is a mess
> if you're directly mounting them without labels or UUIDs.
Or if you do it properly you don't need UUIDs :-)
mdadm
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 13:06:49 GMT Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 14:18:58 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > My workstation has one NVMe drive and two SATAs. They're always
> > > >
> > > >
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 13:31:27 GMT Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:54 AM Peter Humphrey
wrote:
> > > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions specified with UUIDs?
> > >
> > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions?
> >
> > The NVMe drive, the main one, has 18
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote:
> >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB
> >>> doesn't read from LVM volumes.
> >>
> >> Then what does grub's "lvm" module do, and how does it read the
> >> distro's .cfg files from the LVM volumes in which the va
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:24:13 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> if I try to save a web page containing an illegal character (like
> hookrace.net/blog/introduction-to-metaprogramming-in-nim/)
> several browser show an error (attached image) and cannot recover from
> it. I have no chance to change
On 25/11/2020 07:24, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
if I try to save a web page containing an illegal character (like
hookrace.net/blog/introduction-to-metaprogramming-in-nim/)
several browser show an error (attached image) and cannot recover from
it. I have no chance to change the filename.
I ha
Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 13:06:49 GMT Dale wrote:
>
> > Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> > > On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 14:18:58 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> > > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> > > > > My workstation has one NVMe drive and
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:55 AM Wols Lists wrote:
>
> On 25/11/20 13:31, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > Now, one area I would use UUIDs is with mdadm if you're not putting
> > lvm on top. I've seen mdadm arrays get renumbered and that is a mess
> > if you're directly mounting them without labels or UUID
On 11/25/2020 02:50 AM, Michael wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 06:30:05 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
[snip]
>>> root=UUID=d32946b3-2236-4998-80dd-68b7d78e0c7b /
[snip]
>>
>> Solved the problem.
>
> Glad you got your new disk booting.
>
> Worth mentioning your fst
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote:
>
>> >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB
>> >>> doesn't read from LVM volumes.
>> >>
>> >> Then what does grub's "lvm" module do, and how does it read the
>> >> distro's .c
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote:
>
>> I *think* the grub volume itself has to be plain, no lvm, mdadm etc. All
>> the stuff for that is in the initramfs, so grub loads the initramfs,
>> starts the kernel, the kernel starts pid 1 which can now start mdadm,
I compiled "genkernel all" instead of looking for the correct entry to
boot my M.2 drive.
Not I compiled nvidia-drivers and got a message:
* Messages for package x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-455.28-r1:
* CONFIG_I2C_NVIDIA_GPU: should not be set. But it is.
* Please check to make sure thes
On 11/25/2020 08:23 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I compiled "genkernel all" instead of looking for the correct entry to
> boot my M.2 drive.
>
> Not I compiled nvidia-drivers and got a message:
>
> * Messages for package x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-455.28-r1:
>
> * CONFIG_I2C_NVIDIA_GPU
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:13:07 -0600, Dale wrote:
> I have /boot on a plain ext2 partition, root is also on a
> plain ext4 partition. Everything else, /home, /usr, /var etc is on
> LVM.
> If I hadn't had a separate /usr, I would have had to move things around
> to grow /usr. I've done that in the
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:20:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices."
>
> That was certainly the behavior described by the examples documented
> by people who were using grub to boot multiple partitions by having a
> master copy of grub w
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:13:07 GMT Dale wrote:
> Just my thoughts. Trying to help. It's not like I don't ever find
> myself on the receiving end of that. :-D
Indeed. Thanks Dale.
--
Regards,
Peter.
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote:
> P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our
> other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a
> bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like that was the past
> name. I haven't seen him p
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:20:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> > "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices."
>>
>> That was certainly the behavior described [...]
>>
>> But that relys on the assumption that the distros all run compatib
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:13:07 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> I have /boot on a plain ext2 partition, root is also on a
>> plain ext4 partition. Everything else, /home, /usr, /var etc is on
>> LVM.
>> If I hadn't had a separate /usr, I would have had to move things around
>> to grow
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote:
>
>> P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our
>> other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a
>> bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like that was the past
>
On 11/25/2020 08:27 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 11/25/2020 08:23 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> I compiled "genkernel all" instead of looking for the correct entry to
>> boot my M.2 drive.
>>
>> Not I compiled nvidia-drivers and got a message:
>>
>> * Messages for package x11-drive
On 11/25/2020 02:50 AM, Michael wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 06:30:05 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/2020 10:08 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> I'm getting a kernel panic when booting a new system.
>>>
>>> kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs o
Thelma,
On 11/25/20 9:11 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
On 11/25/2020 08:27 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
On 11/25/2020 08:23 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
I compiled "genkernel all" instead of looking for the correct entry to
boot my M.2 drive.
Not I compiled nvidia-drivers and go
the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 11/25/2020 08:27 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 11/25/2020 08:23 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> I compiled "genkernel all" instead of looking for the correct entry to
>>> boot my M.2 drive.
>>>
>>> Not I compiled nvidia-drivers and got a message:
>
Greetings,
since my old 64 GB Verbatim USB sticks became too small, I bought two
new 128 GB Philips sticks. Because I need to read and write them on
both, a stand-alone Windows laptop (not connected to the internet) runn-
ing Windows Vista and Cygwin and my Gentoo laptop, I encrypted them
On 25/11/2020 15:13, Dale wrote:
I can't think of a reason not to use labels, at the very least, in most
situations. The only one I can think of, a laptop that has only one
hard drive. Sort of hard to install two hard drives on a laptop. A
external one can be done but never seen one with two s
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:15 PM wrote:
>
> On 11/25/2020 02:50 AM, Michael wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 06:30:05 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/24/2020 10:08 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> >>> I'm getting a kernel panic when booting a new system.
> >>>
> >>> ke
On 25/11/2020 15:17, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:55 AM Wols Lists wrote:
On 25/11/20 13:31, Rich Freeman wrote:
Now, one area I would use UUIDs is with mdadm if you're not putting
lvm on top. I've seen mdadm arrays get renumbered and that is a mess
if you're directly mounti
antlists wrote:
> On 25/11/2020 15:13, Dale wrote:
>> I can't think of a reason not to use labels, at the very least, in most
>> situations. The only one I can think of, a laptop that has only one
>> hard drive. Sort of hard to install two hard drives on a laptop. A
>> external one can be done b
On 2020.11.25 07:24, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
if I try to save a web page containing an illegal character (like
hookrace.net/blog/introduction-to-metaprogramming-in-nim/)
several browser show an error (attached image) and cannot recover
from it. I have no chance to change the filename.
I
On 2020.11.25 13:08, Jack wrote:
On 2020.11.25 07:24, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
if I try to save a web page containing an illegal character (like
hookrace.net/blog/introduction-to-metaprogramming-in-nim/)
several browser show an error (attached image) and cannot recover
from it. I have no
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:04:26 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive
> > definition from which to load the boot sector.
>
> I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition.
It's more like a partition definition, GRUB require
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:16:28 -0600, Dale wrote:
> I think I was on the old grub back then. Speaking of, can
> I get rid of one of these or are both required? If I can remove one,
> which one? I'm on the new grub and have been for a while. I think I
> uninstalled the old grub a long time ago.
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:55:56 -0600, Dale wrote:
> First I've heard of a laptop having space for two hard drives. I need
> to make a note of that. Now one has reason to use labels on laptops
> too. o_O
You already have. what if you boot with a flash drive connected and it is
recognised first?
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:16:28 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> I think I was on the old grub back then. Speaking of, can
>> I get rid of one of these or are both required? If I can remove one,
>> which one? I'm on the new grub and have been for a while. I think I
>> uninstalled the
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:04:26 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive
>> > definition from which to load the boot sector.
>>
>> I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition.
>
> It's
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:55:56 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> First I've heard of a laptop having space for two hard drives. I need
>> to make a note of that. Now one has reason to use labels on laptops
>> too. o_O
> You already have. what if you boot with a flash drive connected
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:30:46 -0600, Dale wrote:
> >> If I can get rid of the plain grub, that would free up some space.
> >> The grub2 directory isn't as big but still wouldn't hurt.
> > GRUB2 uses /boot/grub here, I suspect /boot/grub2 might be the surplus
> > one, but check the timestamps.
> >
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:30:46 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> >> If I can get rid of the plain grub, that would free up some space.
>> >> The grub2 directory isn't as big but still wouldn't hurt.
>> > GRUB2 uses /boot/grub here, I suspect /boot/grub2 might be the sur
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:30:46 -0600, Dale wrote:
>>
> If I can get rid of the plain grub, that would free up some space.
> The grub2 directory isn't as big but still wouldn't hurt.
GRUB2 uses /boot/grub here, I suspect /bo
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:11:30 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> The reason I'm using "genkernel all" as there is some setting missing in
> my old .config file that is stop booting my M.2 SSD (are there any
> special option in kernel for it?). I'm getting an error:
> kernel panic - not
Poncho wrote:
> On 20.11.20 04:32, Dale wrote:
>> I been using celluloid a fair amount. So far, it is the closest to
>> gnome player after a little tweaking here and there. A couple things
>> tho. I like it to start in a specific window size. I like it as big as
>> I can but not cover up my Kmi
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:37:48 -0600, Dale wrote:
> >> First I've heard of a laptop having space for two hard drives. I
> >> need to make a note of that. Now one has reason to use labels on
> >> laptops too. o_O
> > You already have. what if you boot with a flash drive connected and
> > it is
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:43:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> > Rename one of the directories and see if you can still boot :)
>
> That may not be a valid test. If grub is using a blocklist to locate
> secondary files, renaming the directory that contains those files
> won't bother grub at a
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:37:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive
> >> > definition from which to load the boot sector.
> >>
> >> I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition.
> >
> > It's more like a partition d
On 25/11/2020 23:03, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:37:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive
definition from which to load the boot sector.
I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition.
It's more like a p
On 25/11/2020 22:59, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:37:48 -0600, Dale wrote:
First I've heard of a laptop having space for two hard drives. I
need to make a note of that. Now one has reason to use labels on
laptops too. o_O
You already have. what if you boot with a flash drive
antlists wrote:
> On 25/11/2020 22:59, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:37:48 -0600, Dale wrote:
>>
> First I've heard of a laptop having space for two hard drives. I
> need to make a note of that. Now one has reason to use labels on
> laptops too. o_O
You already
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:37:15 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> since my old 64 GB Verbatim USB sticks became too small, I bought two
> new 128 GB Philips sticks. Because I need to read and write them on
> both, a stand-alone Windows laptop (not connected to the intern
On 11/25/2020 10:33 AM, Dale wrote:
> the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 11/25/2020 08:27 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> On 11/25/2020 08:23 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
I compiled "genkernel all" instead of looking for the correct entry to
boot my M.2 drive.
Not I
I've always used postifx but I want to try sendmail this time.
And I have a hard time finding gentoo howto.
I runonto some instruction in:
http://www.quickfixlinux.com/linux/how-to-configure-sendmail-in-linux/
But don't have much lack.
Original config file after emerge looks like:
cat /etc/mail/
the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 11/25/2020 10:33 AM, Dale wrote:
>> the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> On 11/25/2020 08:27 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
On 11/25/2020 08:23 AM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I compiled "genkernel all" instead of looking for the correct entry to
* the...@sys-concept.com:
> I've always used postifx but I want to try sendmail this time.
> And I have a hard time finding gentoo howto.
Well, configuration-wise, you are saying "I've always enjoyed a soothing
massage, but I want to try being dragged over cobblestone pavement while
simultaneousl
On 11/25/2020 07:03 PM, Ralph Seichter wrote:
> * the...@sys-concept.com:
>
>> I've always used postifx but I want to try sendmail this time.
>> And I have a hard time finding gentoo howto.
>
> Well, configuration-wise, you are saying "I've always enjoyed a soothing
> massage, but I want to try b
On Wed, 2020-11-25 at 19:41 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> But if I can not make it to work, will go back to postfix.
For new setups, I've always had good success with SSMTP. Very bare,
simple, and reliable.
mail-mta/ssmtp in portage.
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:43:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> > Rename one of the directories and see if you can still boot :)
>>
>> That may not be a valid test. If grub is using a blocklist to locate
>> secondary files, renaming the directory that c
On 2020-11-26, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I've always used postifx but I want to try sendmail this time.
Appropos of nothing, might we ask why? I've heard there are things
that you can do with sendmail that you can't do with postfix or exim
or qmail, but the descriptions of what sorts of "t
On 2020-11-26, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
> Thank you for input. Maybe that is why it is so hard to find good
> explanation/howto how to configure it. The config file looks very
> simple, that is I decided to try it.
Ah, that's another devine mystery. I believe that the small size of a
send
On 04:02 Thu 26 Nov 2020, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-11-26, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
I've always used postifx but I want to try sendmail this time.
Appropos of nothing, might we ask why? I've heard there are things
that you can do with sendmail that you can't do with postfix or exim
o
On 11/25/20 6:47 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
I've always used postifx but I want to try sendmail this time.
I've been using Sendmail for 20 years on multiple Linux and Unixes.
And I have a hard time finding gentoo howto.
Thankfully, much of Sendmail is self contained and isn't much di
On 11/25/20 9:47 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
That is supported. You will need to set up a map and tell Sendmail how
to use it. It's not difficult. But it's been so long that I don't
remember exactly how to do it. It's another define(...) or feature(...)
line and adding entries to the file they
On 11/25/20 9:09 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
Ah, that's another devine mystery. I believe that the small size of
a sendmail config file, when compared to the number of malfunctions
it can create violates several basic tenants of information theory. I
think the explanation involves extra dimensions
On 11/25/20 9:02 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
O'Reilly's_Sendmail_ 4th Edition (the bat book), has 1312 pages and
weighs four pounds.
There is actually a much smaller book than the quintessential Bat book
that is multiple orders of magnitude. IM(ns)HO the Sendmail
Installation and Operation Gui
On 11/25/2020 07:52 PM, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-11-25 at 19:41 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> But if I can not make it to work, will go back to postfix.
>
> For new setups, I've always had good success with SSMTP. Very bare,
> simple, and reliable.
>
> mail-mta/ssmtp
[snip
> cat revaliases (did not test this one yet)
> root:root@localdomain:mail.my-domain.com
> thelma:i...@my-domain.com:mail.my-domain.com
>
> Are the aliases correct?
Looking at aliases from postfix:
# Basic system aliases -- these MUST be present.
MAILER-DAEMON: postmaster
postmaster
urlview has served me faithfully for many years in conjunction with
mutt. In a recent install, I find it's no longer available (python
2.7?). extract_url is touted as a drop-in replacement for urlview. I
emerged it and did some RTFM, ending up more confused than ever. I want
to display urls o
According to:
https://wiki.webevaluation.nl/sending_e-mail_with_ssmtp
ssmtp has no local e-mail so it can not send cron output to /var/mail/user
But from posting at:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/69133/where-is-the-setting-for-sending-email-to-a-system-user-with-ssmtp
Aliases for TO: a
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