Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Adam Carter
> 3) AMD code runs only on same or newer AMD, because it has the 3DNow! >instruction set the others lack. > FYI 3dnow and 3dnowext went away some time ago. It's not in any of the Bulldozer or Zen CPUs.

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 23 November 2020 19:02:57 GMT antlists wrote: > If you're messing about with disks, partitions, etc, you NEED to have a > basic understanding of UUIDs. That may be true if you have more than one disk of a given type, but if you have only one SATA drive and one NVMe, for instance, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting Unix time to local time

2020-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 23 November 2020 21:47:11 GMT Jack wrote: > For many years, I've had this small script in my home directory - > unfortunately I rarely remember to use it. I have no idea where I got > it, but it's got a timestamp of about four years ago. However, now > that I actually look at it, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting Unix time to local time

2020-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 09:28:13 GMT I wrote: > There should be a one-liner in awk too. Someone will come along in a minute > and tell us. At least, I hope so because I'd like to use it too. I should have added my thanks for the script. Rude of me. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 09:20:52 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 23 November 2020 19:02:57 GMT antlists wrote: > > If you're messing about with disks, partitions, etc, you NEED to have a > > basic understanding of UUIDs. > > That may be true if you have more than one disk of a given ty

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 10:43:25 GMT Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 09:20:52 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > > My workstation has one NVMe drive and two SATAs. They're always detected > > in the same order, so I've no need to render my fstab illegible with > > UUIDs. I could use lab

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting Unix time to local time

2020-11-24 Thread Philip Webb
On Monday, 23 November 2020 21:47:11 GMT Jack wrote: > For many years, I've had this small script in my home directory - > unfortunately I rarely remember to use it. I have no idea > where I got it, but it's got a timestamp of about four years ago. > However, now that I actually look at it, > the

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > My workstation has one NVMe drive and two SATAs. They're always > detected in the same order, so I've no need to render my fstab > illegible with UUIDs. I could use labels, but why bother? The old > system ain't broke, so I've no need to

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 07:56:07PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote > > 3) AMD code runs only on same or newer AMD, because it has the 3DNow! > >instruction set the others lack. > > > > FYI 3dnow and 3dnowext went away some time ago. It's not in any of the > Bulldozer or Zen CPUs. So you're saying

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:20:52 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions specified with UUIDs? >> Doesn't bear thinking about. > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking > about. Yes. I have one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:01:35 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking > > about. > > Yes. I have one with 12 and often wish it had more. > > It comes in handy when you need to test drivers and applications > against different dist

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Jack
On 11/24/20 10:41 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:01:35 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking about. Yes. I have one with 12 and often wish it had more. It comes in handy when you need to test drivers and applicati

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:01:35 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking >> > about. >> >> Yes. I have one with 12 and often wish it had more. >> >> It comes in handy when you need to test dri

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Jack wrote: > I only have two or three such distros I use for testing, but I have > each in a VirtualBox machine. For me, spinning up a VM is easier > than a real reboot. I don't trust VMs when testing drivers for PCI cards or applicatoins that use raw Ethernet. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:38:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > But actual partitions? > > Yes. Each with a separate Linux distro installed. > > Perhaps you can do that with a volume manager instead of partitions > (using partitions has worked fine for the past 20 years, so I've never > loo

[gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:38:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > But actual partitions? >> >> Yes. Each with a separate Linux distro installed. >> >> Perhaps you can do that with a volume manager instead of partitions >> (using partitions has worked f

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread thelma
On 11/23/2020 01:29 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:27:53 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >>> I would confirm that you are really booted from the new disk and not >>> the old one.  It is possible that the MBR from the new disk was used >>> to boot, but if /etc/fstab says /

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread antlists
On 24/11/2020 16:51, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:38:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: But actual partitions? Yes. Each with a separate Linux distro installed. Perhaps you can do that with a volume manager instead of partitions (using p

[gentoo-user] Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, antlists wrote: > >> Cool, I'll have to read up on using volumes for that. How far back in >> time can you go before you get to distros that would have problems? > > How old is LVM? It's been around for ages, I think. We regularly run into customers running distros that came out 10

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:23:41 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 11/23/2020 01:29 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:27:53 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >>> I would confirm that you are really booted from the new disk and not > >>> the old one. It is possible

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:49 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 07:56:07PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote > > > 3) AMD code runs only on same or newer AMD, because it has the 3DNow! > > >instruction set the others lack. > > > > > > > FYI 3dnow and 3dnowext went away some time ago. It'

[gentoo-user] boot partition size

2020-11-24 Thread thelma
I run gentoo installation from: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks parted -a optimal /dev/nvme0n1 Device StartEndSectors Size Type /dev/nvme0n1p12048 6143 40962M BIOS boot /dev/nvme0n1p26144 268287 262144 128M EFI

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:04:20 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as > chainloading a "real" partition? I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't read from LVM volumes. -- Neil Bothwick "A hundred yea

Re: [gentoo-user] boot partition size

2020-11-24 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:51:53 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I run gentoo installation from: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks > > parted -a optimal /dev/nvme0n1 > > Device StartEndSectors Size Type > /dev/nvme0n1p12048

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 18:37:43 +, antlists wrote: > Personally, I wouldn't use dm-crypt, but then I'm not particularly into > crypto. It's a laptop that could be lost or stolen, not using some form of encryption would be insane. I don't use dm-crypt on desktop systems as long as the environmen

Re: [gentoo-user] boot partition size

2020-11-24 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I run gentoo installation from: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks > > parted -a optimal /dev/nvme0n1 > > Device StartEndSectors Size Type > /dev/nvme0n1p12048 6143 40962M BIOS boot > /dev/nvme0

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:04:20 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as >> chainloading a "real" partition? > > I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't > read from L

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:25:38 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as > >> chainloading a "real" partition? > > > > I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't > > read from LVM volumes. > > Then what

Re: [gentoo-user] boot partition size

2020-11-24 Thread thelma
On 11/24/2020 04:21 PM, Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:51:53 GMT the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I run gentoo installation from: >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Disks >> >> parted -a optimal /dev/nvme0n1 >> >> Device StartEndSecto

[gentoo-user] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)

2020-11-24 Thread thelma
I'm getting a kernel panic when booting a new system. kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) fstab: LABEL=boot /boot vfatnoauto,noatime 1 2 root=UUID=d32946b3-2236-4998-80dd-68b7d78e0c7b /

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)

2020-11-24 Thread thelma
Thelma On 11/24/2020 10:08 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I'm getting a kernel panic when booting a new system. > > kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block > (0,0) > > fstab: > LABEL=boot/boot vfatnoauto,noatime 1 2 >