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On Monday, August 17, 2020 8:54 PM, Dale wrote:
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> If you visit this site, it doesn't allow adblock to be in use. I can't tell
> if it has the actual list or not. Sites that don't like my adblock blocking
> their annoying ads that I will never click on gets a
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:00:52AM +, Caveman wrote in
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yes. smtp is nasty, and also redundant.
How is it redundant?
makes me wonder if i should just create me a
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:00:52AM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> yes. smtp is nasty, and also redundant.
S.M.T.P. is extremely well-established, and has always been a reasonably
pleasant experience for me. Which part of the protocol makes you think of it as
"nasty"?
> makes me wo
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On Monday, August 17, 2020 3:33 PM, Ashley Dixon wrote:
> How many concurrent users will be connected to the mail server? How much
> traffic
> will the S.M.T.P. server receive (read: how many e-mails arrive on a daily
> basis)? If you really don't trust your V.P.
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On Monday, August 17, 2020 3:48 PM, Jarry wrote:
> Rent VPS and be your own admin. But running properly configured
> mail-server is not so easy. Setting up postfix/exim/sendmail
> is just a beginning. If you mean it seriously and do not want
> your IP to land on b
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On Monday, August 17, 2020 8:00 PM, Grant Taylor
wrote:
> On 8/16/20 10:50 PM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> > 3. vps admin is not trusty and their sys admin may read my emails,
> > and laugh at me!
>
> Do you have any (anecdotal) evidence that this has actu
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 2:43 AM Caveman Al Toraboran
wrote:
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> On Monday, August 17, 2020 3:48 PM, Jarry wrote:
>
> > Rent VPS and be your own admin. But running properly configured
> > mail-server is not so easy. Setting up postfix/exim/sendmail
> > is just a be
Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
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> On Monday, August 17, 2020 8:54 PM, Dale wrote:
>
>> If you visit this site, it doesn't allow adblock to be in use. I can't tell
>> if it has the actual list or not. Sites that don't like my adblock blocking
>> their annoying ads
On 18-Aug-20 8:43, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
would i get blacklisted for simply not using
spf/dkim/etc? even if no other user is using the
mail service other than me and i'm not mass
mailing?
Well, hear my story: I too was running simple mail-server. Just
a few users I trust, no public rela
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On Tuesday, August 18, 2020 2:21 PM, Remco Rijnders
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:00:52AM +, Caveman wrote in
>
> > yes. smtp is nasty, and also redundant.
>
> How is it redundant?
redundant as in containing concepts already done
in other protocols, so
On 8/18/20 12:43 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
would i get blacklisted for simply not using spf/dkim/etc? even if
no other user is using the mail service other than me and i'm not
mass mailing?
I don't think it's that you would be black listed per say.
Rather, I think it's that nothing wou
On 8/18/20 1:00 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
not specifically with a mail provider, but with other i.t. services,
yes. and since they're all humans, then the simplest model that
explains this is that this is about humans in general, and same past
experience would extend to mail provider's a
On 8/18/20 5:59 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
redundant as in containing concepts already done in other protocols,
so smtp has many re-invented wheels that are already invented in
existing protocols.
Please elaborate. Please be careful to provide information about /when/
the protocols that
On 8/18/20 4:30 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote:
but nothing can replace it in terms of interoperability and
convenience.
That is an EXTREMELY important point.
SMTP is a protocol that completely independent implementations can use
to exchange messages with each other.
You can set up gateways to enab
On 8/18/20 4:36 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/18/20 5:59 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
redundant as in containing concepts already done in other protocols,
so smtp has many re-invented wheels that are already invented in
existing protocols.
Please elaborate.� Please be careful to provide i
On 8/18/20 4:25 PM, james wrote:
I find all of this *fascinating*.
;-)
So I have threads from 7/28 and others that attempt to discover the
(gentoo) packages necessary to run my own email services. I have (2)
R.Pi4 (8Gram) and (2) more on order to build out complete
mail/DNS/security for a
For several decades, I was a loyal AMD customer. But the last time I
upgraded my home desktop (2013), AMD just didn't seem to have anything
that could complete with the Core-i3/5 CPUs with integrated graphics.
The Intel HD-2500 GPU was plenty fast enough for everything I did back
then, so I went w
> So you want to change from a ubiquitous protocol that is supported by
> many Many MANY devices to niche protocol that has a non-trivial
> installation / configuration curve.
1st half is "yes", 2nd half is "no" (mine is
simpler).
> > then, verify messages by mailing their supplied email a confir
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