Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Mick
On Friday, 17 May 2019 06:48:28 BST Adam Carter wrote: > > > The classic one is where OPS haven't noticed that disks in a RAID array > > > > have died years ago... > > > > This really happened? > > Yeah. Spent huge money on NMSes but then didn't spend the relatively small > amount on thorough in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > > something even worse.  Since rebooting is when those tend to > fail/break/whatever, it is yet another reason I avoid rebooting.  > > > I take the opposite approach. If I update the kernel and reboot often, > I see the following benefits; > - Each increment in version

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Adam Carter
> Yep, and not just to Adam. I had to ask support twice to check their > array > because performance was degraded, but they preferred to blame (my) network > for > it. So much for keeping an eye on monitoring kit for their storage. > > Systems guys blame the network, network guys blame the firewa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Mick
On Friday, 17 May 2019 09:43:46 BST Dale wrote: > My problems with init thingys date all the way back to to the Mandrake > 9.1 days when I first used Linux. I was never a Mandrake user, but also avoided using an initrd unless it came with a binary distro - at which point I would also expect it t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:28 AM Mick wrote: > > Count yourself lucky. You could have discovered your disk wouldn't spin up > again, your PSU packed up, or even the MoBo chipset decided to retire from > active service. Eventually, any of these hardware problems would manifest > themselves, but a

[gentoo-user] LVM2 problem, meta data format change?

2019-05-17 Thread Paul Colquhoun
Recently I found that new kernels were not booting for me, because they could not assemble the LVM partition that I use for the root filesystem. Booting back to my old kernel still worked. I have tracked this back to the lvm2 version. After booting with the old kernel, I ran lvm and tried the '

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:28 AM Mick wrote: >> Count yourself lucky. You could have discovered your disk wouldn't spin up >> again, your PSU packed up, or even the MoBo chipset decided to retire from >> active service. Eventually, any of these hardware problems would manife

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Friday, 17 May 2019 09:43:46 BST Dale wrote: > >> My problems with init thingys date all the way back to to the Mandrake >> 9.1 days when I first used Linux. > I was never a Mandrake user, but also avoided using an initrd unless it came > with a binary distro - at which point I wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 01:53:45PM -0500, Dale wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > […] > > If your system is on, how is it going to replace vulnerable kernels > > with patched ones? > […] > > While I want to keep the bad CPU code from being used, they first have > to get past other things.  My D