Re: [gentoo-user] Infrastructure?

2016-09-20 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 09/19/2016 10:54 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > Just curious, but how are gentoo's infra assets organized? > > Do you guys use VMs on top of hardware machines and whatnot? > > Reasons for asking: > > * general curiosity > * wondering how a migration to use anongit.gentoo.org >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

2016-09-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 08:41:56 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > What makes you think I didn't use -p? I have a cron job that runs > > emerge -pXXX @world after syncing and mails me the output, and I > > always use -a when running emerge in a shell. > > You could also try porticron... ;-) I could but I

Re: [gentoo-user] How to use efibootmgr

2016-09-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 19 Sep 2016 21:28:25 Mick wrote: > On Monday 19 Sep 2016 13:08:29 Mike Gilbert wrote: --->8 > > The manpage seems to be incorrect; -B/--delete-bootnum does not take > > any argument. Instead, you must specify the entry number using the -b > > option. Or you could say, with hindsight, t

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Todd Goodman
* wabe [160919 20:50]: > Grant wrote: > > > A while back I was having networking issues. I eventually tried > > drastically lowering the MTU of all the systems onsite and the issues > > disappeared. I always thought the issue was due to the MTU on our > > modem/router. Today I read that AT&T

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
>> Rather than guess and take random values read on the net - measure it. >> >> Google calculate mtu - netgear and others show ways to test upstream to >> get the ideal size using ping >> >> You are looking for the largest MTU value before fragmentation starts to >> occur. > > See https://www.dsl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
>> A while back I was having networking issues. I eventually tried >> drastically lowering the MTU of all the systems onsite and the issues >> disappeared. I always thought the issue was due to the MTU on our >> modem/router. Today I read that AT&T DSL requires a 1492 MTU so I >> increased the M

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
>> > A while back I was having networking issues. I eventually tried >> > drastically lowering the MTU of all the systems onsite and the issues >> > disappeared. I always thought the issue was due to the MTU on our >> > modem/router. Today I read that AT&T DSL requires a 1492 MTU so I >> > incre

[gentoo-user] Re: TCP Queuing problem

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
My web server's response time for http requests skyrockets every weekday between about 9am and 5pm. I've gone over my munin graphs and the only one that really correlates well with the slowdown is "TCP Queuing". It looks like I normally have about 400 packets per second g

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Todd Goodman
* Grant [160920 08:53]: > >> > A while back I was having networking issues. I eventually tried > >> > drastically lowering the MTU of all the systems onsite and the issues > >> > disappeared. I always thought the issue was due to the MTU on our > >> > modem/router. Today I read that AT&T DSL re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: TCP Queuing problem

2016-09-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On September 20, 2016 2:38:03 AM GMT+02:00, Grant wrote: My web server's response time for http requests skyrockets every weekday between about 9am and 5pm. I've gone over my munin graphs >and the only one that really correlates well with the slowdown is "TCP Queuing". It loo

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Grant wrote: >> MTU is per network interface but you really don't want to end up having >> your router fragment every IP packet because systems on your subnet are >> using a larger MTU. >> >> Todd > >That makes sense. So in my case, I'm thinking 1492 MTU on every >inte

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: TCP Queuing problem

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
> My web server's response time for http requests skyrockets every > weekday between about 9am and 5pm. I've gone over my munin graphs >>and > the only one that really correlates well with the slowdown is "TCP > Queuing". It looks like I normally have about 400 packets per >>secon

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Plasma upgrade: Part Deux.

2016-09-20 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/19/2016 11:36 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Mon, 19 Sep 2016 20:05:19 -0700 > schrieb Daniel Frey : > >> So, I have a week off and have time to mess around trying to upgrade >> to Plasma once again. >> >> I have got it mostly-somewhat upgraded, but I have two bizarre >> problems. >> >> The firs

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
>>> MTU is per network interface but you really don't want to end up having >>> your router fragment every IP packet because systems on your subnet are >>> using a larger MTU. >>> >>> Todd >> >>That makes sense. So in my case, I'm thinking 1492 MTU on every >>interface in the network. >> >>So I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Grant wrote: [..] >> $ ping -n -c 1 -M dont -s 1465 www.dslreports.com >> PING www.dslreports.com (64.91.255.98) 1465(1493) bytes of data. >> 1473 bytes from 64.91.255.98: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=137 ms >> >> 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms >>

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
>>Strangely, I'm able to ping with that command even with a very high -s value: >> >>$ ping -c 4 -M dont -s www.dslreports.com >>PING www.dslreports.com (64.91.255.98) (10027) bytes of data. >>10007 bytes from www.dslreports.com (64.91.255.98): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 >>time=331 ms >>10007 bytes

[gentoo-user] Re: Plasma upgrade: Part Deux.

2016-09-20 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 08:36:24 +0200 Kai Krakow wrote: > There's kmix and there's the systray integrated mixer. Disable either > one of them. With modern versions of plasma I prefer the plasma > integrated mixer and uninstalled kmix. > > You can disable the other mixer in the systray properties.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Grant wrote: >>>Strangely, I'm able to ping with that command even with a very high -s value: >>> >>>$ ping -c 4 -M dont -s www.dslreports.com >>>PING www.dslreports.com (64.91.255.98) (10027) bytes of data. >>>10007 bytes from www.dslreports.com (64.91.255.98)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: TCP Queuing problem

2016-09-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On September 20, 2016 4:53:41 PM GMT+02:00, Grant wrote: >> My web server's response time for http requests skyrockets every >> weekday between about 9am and 5pm. I've gone over my munin >graphs >>>and >> the only one that really correlates well with the slowdown is >"TCP >> Queui

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 20 Sep 2016 19:38:02 David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Grant wrote: > >>>Strangely, I'm able to ping with that command even with a very high -s > >>>value: > >>> > >>>$ ping -c 4 -M dont -s www.dslreports.com > >>>PING www.dslreports.com (64.91.255.98) (1002

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: TCP Queuing problem

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
>>> My web server's response time for http requests skyrockets every >>> weekday between about 9am and 5pm. I've gone over my munin >>graphs and >>> the only one that really correlates well with the slowdown is >>"TCP >>> Queuing". It looks like I normally have about 400 packe

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Grant
> Leaving your MTU at the default ethernet size of 1500 on your PC/server should > not cause a problem for most day to day operations, because modern end-point > OS and network devices use Path MTU Detection. Problems will arise when you > come across a misconfigured router/firewall/server (intern

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 20 Sep 2016 12:57:00 Grant wrote: > > Leaving your MTU at the default ethernet size of 1500 on your PC/server > > should not cause a problem for most day to day operations, because modern > > end-point OS and network devices use Path MTU Detection. Problems will > > arise when you come

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: TCP Queuing problem

2016-09-20 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Tue Sep 20 12:52:57 2016, Grant wrote: > The spikes are taking place on my remote server but they seem to > roughly coincide with user activity within my own network. My > technical knowledge of networking internals is weak. Does anyone know > which tool will tell me more about the connections

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Tue Sep 20 07:52:58 2016, Todd Goodman wrote: > MTU is per network interface but you really don't want to end up having > your router fragment every IP packet because systems on your subnet are > using a larger MTU. > > Todd You will not fragment every packet, the PMTUd will do his job and wil

[gentoo-user] Re: Plasma upgrade: Part Deux.

2016-09-20 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 20 Sep 2016 08:13:49 -0700 schrieb Daniel Frey : > On 09/19/2016 11:36 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > > Am Mon, 19 Sep 2016 20:05:19 -0700 > > schrieb Daniel Frey : > > > >> So, I have a week off and have time to mess around trying to > >> upgrade to Plasma once again. > >> > >> I have got it

[gentoo-user] how to start KDE

2016-09-20 Thread Philip Webb
I've got Gwenview to behave by installing Plasma-meta : Systemsettings shows up with adequate options & single-click is back, as are the previews of pix on the folder icons. I've been a happy user of Fluxbox for many years, but am willing to see how well KDE 5 works in 2016 . >From a raw command t

[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} ISP requires MTU below 1500?

2016-09-20 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 20 Sep 2016 05:42:01 -0700 schrieb Grant : > >> A while back I was having networking issues. I eventually tried > >> drastically lowering the MTU of all the systems onsite and the > >> issues disappeared. I always thought the issue was due to the MTU > >> on our modem/router. Today I re

Re: [gentoo-user] how to start KDE

2016-09-20 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Hi, You should install plasma-desktop and use startkde in your ~/.xinitrc if you do not use session manager. Regards, Alon On 21 September 2016 at 06:46, Philip Webb wrote: > I've got Gwenview to behave by installing Plasma-meta : > Systemsettings shows up with adequate options & single-click is

[gentoo-user] Re: TCP Queuing problem

2016-09-20 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 20 Sep 2016 06:08:31 -0700 schrieb Grant : > [...] > [...] > >> > >> > >> It looks like the TCP Queuing spike itself was due to imapproxy > >> which I've now disabled. I'll post more info as I gather it. > > > > > > imapproxy was clearly affecting the TCP Queuing graph in munin bu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Plasma upgrade: Part Deux.

2016-09-20 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/20/2016 08:26 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: >> >> I've noticed a couple more things. One is after resume from standby >> the plasma taskbar hangs at 100% cpu for 2-3 minutes, during which >> time you can't open the K menu, click on open programs in the task >> bar or start any apps. The tray icons an

[gentoo-user] Alt+Fn switch console from within X11 session

2016-09-20 Thread Kai Krakow
Hello! I upgraded xorg to 1.18 and during that process also enabled USE=wayland. However, I don't run a wayland session (this actually doesn't seem to work with nvidia). I use sddm as the login manager, and I'm running latest plasma 5.7. The system is booted with systemd. I just came accross the

[gentoo-user] Re: Plasma upgrade: Part Deux.

2016-09-20 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:03:23 -0700 schrieb Daniel Frey : > On 09/20/2016 08:26 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > >> > >> I've noticed a couple more things. One is after resume from standby > >> the plasma taskbar hangs at 100% cpu for 2-3 minutes, during which > >> time you can't open the K menu, click on o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Plasma upgrade: Part Deux.

2016-09-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On September 21, 2016 6:03:23 AM GMT+02:00, Daniel Frey wrote: >On 09/20/2016 08:26 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: >>> >>> I've noticed a couple more things. One is after resume from standby >>> the plasma taskbar hangs at 100% cpu for 2-3 minutes, during which >>> time you can't open the K menu, click on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Plasma upgrade: Part Deux.

2016-09-20 Thread Alecks Gates
On 09/21/2016 12:07 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > All those effects depend on your 3D GPU. > > The nouveau drivers don't fully support 3D (please correct me if I am wrong) > due to Nvidia not being able (legally) to provide all the necessary specs. > (This is Nvidias claim, I am not interested in