Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:09:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Why reinvent the wheel? abcde is a shell script that does this and > > much more. It uses whichever ripper, encoder etc. that you want, with > > whatever options you want. > > I like to putter around with bash scripts. I've written u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 03:46:13 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I'm installing openSUSE 13.2 into a VM right now and the *default* > > location for installing GRUB2 is a partition! So what's all the fuss > > about? > > The last time I checked, CentOS/RH/Fedora don't allow installing a > boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java plugin in Midori web browser

2015-08-29 Thread José Romildo Malaquias
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 02:06:10AM +, James wrote: > José Romildo Malaquias gmail.com> writes: > > > > I need help getting java plugin working in the Midori web browser. > > I have dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.51 installed on my ~amd64 > > system. > > I used icedtea-bin for most everythin

Re: [gentoo-user] Java plugin in Midori web browser

2015-08-29 Thread José Romildo Malaquias
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 06:12:19AM +0200, bitlord wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:25:43 -0300 > José Romildo Malaquias wrote: > > > I need help getting java plugin working in the Midori web browser. > > > > I have dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin-1.8.0.51 installed on my ~amd64 > > system. > > > > The p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 29 Aug 2015 04:32:48 Dale wrote: > walt wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:29:20 -0400 > > > > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I used to think git looked really complicated until I sat through a > >> one hour talk that focused mostly on the data model. Once you > >> understand the data model

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting vanilla kernel 4.1.x

2015-08-29 Thread Peter Weilbacher
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > I've never experienced this particular kernel trouble myself, so I'm > not sure if my input would be of much help. > Here's what the kernel documentation has to say about this kind of issue: > > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt:29,33 [.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Todd Goodman
* Philip Webb [150828 18:35]: > 150828 Rich Freeman wrote: > > To really appreciate git you should understand git objects > > and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are. > > Also, the whole copy-on-write concept and content-hashing concept. > > I used to think git looked really compli

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting vanilla kernel 4.1.x

2015-08-29 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Peter Weilbacher wrote: > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > >> I've never experienced this particular kernel trouble myself, so I'm >> not sure if my input would be of much help. >> Here's what the kernel documentation has to say about this kind of is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: > * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]: >> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote: >>> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects >>> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are. >>> Also, the whole copy-on-write concept and content-hashing concept. >>> I used to think g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-28 05:24, Neil Bothwick a écrit : On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:34:30 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I know it has worked in the past, and I know that recent versions of some distros that use Grub2 still allow you to pick a partition for the bootloader during the install. I'm installing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-28 07:24, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal wrote: I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a partition and gave up. Is that bug fixed? It

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-28 07:55, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Michel Catudal wrote: Le 2015-08-27 15:18, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : Who are you to tell them what they should work on? They're acting like FOSS developers, many of whom work for free or underpaid so they work on whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:48:16 AM Dale wrote: > Todd Goodman wrote: > > * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]: > >> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects > >>> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are. > >>> Also, the whole copy-on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2015 18:17, Michel Catudal wrote: > Le 2015-08-28 07:24, Tom H a écrit : >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Grant Edwards >> wrote: >>> On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal wrote: > I've had serious problems in the past getti

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Terry Z.
So please contribute to the grub2 repo a pull request that meets your requirements rather than complain about it. You are also free to maintain any package you want in a custom overlay in gentoo that packages those requirements. Free software is about preventing lock in and empowering the user. You

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Michel Catudal wrote: > You have to be able to boot the os that grub is installed on to be able to > fix booting issues. If the OS that has control of grub2 is wacked you are > screwed. > At least with a bootloader that independant of any operating system and with

Re: [gentoo-user] ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, August 28, 2015 2:24:37 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > Those who wish to use git can do so, and I'd encourage people to try. > It really does have a lot of advantages. Oh, and it makes it really > easy to contribute patches/etc (just edit whatever you want in > /usr/portage and type git diff)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-29 12:57, Mike Gilbert a écrit : If you want an "OS-independent" boot loader, the syslinux family of boot loaders might be a good choice for you. Or keep using grub legacy. Just don't expect either of them to be able to boot Linux from ZFS, or ext4 on lvm on luks. That's where grub2 co

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > It's probably easier to do this: > > # cd /usr/portage > # rm -r * > # git clone . The only issue with this is that all the files end up being owned by root. I'd just create /usr/portage, chown portage:portage /usr/portage, and then

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Todd Goodman
* Dale [150829 11:49]: > Todd Goodman wrote: > > * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]: > >> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> To really appreciate git you should understand git objects > >>> and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are. > >>> Also, the whole copy-on-write concept and content-ha

Re: [gentoo-user] ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Todd Goodman
* Fernando Rodriguez [150829 12:59]: > On Friday, August 28, 2015 2:24:37 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > > Those who wish to use git can do so, and I'd encourage people to try. > > It really does have a lot of advantages. Oh, and it makes it really > > easy to contribute patches/etc (just edit whatever

[gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot portage - conflict

2015-08-29 Thread neu pat
I emerge python3.4 set as active: eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 [2] python3.3 [3] python3.4 * but it still complain about Multiple package instances [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.20.1 [2.2.14] PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_4* -python3_3*" !!! Multi

[gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot portage - conflict

2015-08-29 Thread neu pat
I emerge python3.4 set as active: eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 [2] python3.3 [3] python3.4 * but it still complain [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.20.1 [2.2.14] PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_4* -python3_3*" !!! Multiple package instances within a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 2:19:23 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Fernando Rodriguez > wrote: > > It's probably easier to do this: > > > > # cd /usr/portage > > # rm -r * > > # git clone . > > The only issue with this is that all the files end up being owned by > ro

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot portage - conflict

2015-08-29 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 2:02:29 PM neu pat wrote: > I emerge python3.4 set as active: > > eselect python list > Available Python interpreters: > [1] python2.7 > [2] python3.3 > [3] python3.4 * > > but it still complain > > > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.20.1 [2.2.14] >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:35:35 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > So basicly the only change is that instead of: > > # less ChangeLog (or whatever you use to read logs) > > You'll do: > > # git log . Or if emerge is updated to use git too, instead of emerge -l you'll use emerge -l ;-) --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:00:51 -0400, Michel Catudal wrote: > > I'm installing openSUSE 13.2 into a VM right now and the *default* > > location for installing GRUB2 is a partition! So what's all the fuss > > about? > Not all distributions are Microsoft type. Fedora comes to mind. WTF are you on ab

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:53:10 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:35:35 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > So basicly the only change is that instead of: > > > > # less ChangeLog (or whatever you use to read logs) > > > > You'll do: > > > > # git log . > > Or if emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 29, 2015 5:10:15 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:53:10 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:35:35 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > > > So basicly the only change is that instead of: > > > > > > # less ChangeLog (or whatever you

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --oneshot portage - conflict

2015-08-29 Thread James
neu pat gmail.com> writes: > I emerge python3.4 set as active: eselect python list > Available Python interpreters: >   [1]   python2.7 >   [2]   python3.3 >   [3]   python3.4 * emerge python-updater then run python-updater hth, James

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot portage - conflict

2015-08-29 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 02:02:29PM -0600, neu pat wrote: > I emerge python3.4 set as active: > > eselect python list > Available Python interpreters: > [1] python2.7 > [2] python3.3 > [3] python3.4 * What is the value of PYTHON_TARGETS? Can you post the output of `emerge --info'? > b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-08-29 16:56, Neil Bothwick a écrit : On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:00:51 -0400, Michel Catudal wrote: I'm installing openSUSE 13.2 into a VM right now and the *default* location for installing GRUB2 is a partition! So what's all the fuss about? Not all distributions are Microsoft type. Fedora

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

2015-08-29 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:24:31 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:34:30 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > I know it has worked in the past, and I know that recent versions of > > some distros that use Grub2 still allow you to pick a partition for > > the bootloader during th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Dale
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:48:16 AM Dale wrote: >> Todd Goodman wrote: >>> * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]: 150828 Rich Freeman wrote: > To really appreciate git you should understand git objects > and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are.

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ripper that generates song titles?

2015-08-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote > 4896 /usr/bin/abcde > > > that handles > > things to *MY* specs for *MY* needs. It processes .inf and .wav files > > in a directory, creating flac files in a flac subdirectory. I haven't > > tested it under all conditions, but it t

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --oneshot portage - conflict

2015-08-29 Thread thelma
Here is my emerge-info python target is 2.7.9-r1, 3.3.5-r1, 3.4.1 emerge --info Portage 2.2.14 (python 2.7.9-final-0, default/linux/x86/13.0/desktop, gcc-4.8.4, glibc-2.19-r1, 3.10.17-gentoo i686) = System uname: Linux-3.10.17-gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ncurses: reductio ad absurdum

2015-08-29 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: > * Dale [150829 11:49]: >> Todd Goodman wrote: >>> * Philip Webb [150828 18:35]: 150828 Rich Freeman wrote: > To really appreciate git you should understand git objects > and their references, what a commit, tree, and blob are. > Also, the whole copy-on-write

[gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-29 Thread Philip Webb
How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ? How long between power off/on's ? I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep, then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself. However recently, I've run into delays getting my router (on

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-29 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote: > How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ? > How long between power off/on's ? > > I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep, > then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself. > However recently, I've run int

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-29 Thread covici
Dale wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: > > How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ? > > How long between power off/on's ? > > > > I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep, > > then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself. > > Ho

[gentoo-user] emerge fails with `Suspicious PERL5LIB setting's

2015-08-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup: running gentoo inside vbox on Solaris (x86) Very new install Running `emerge -v dev-vcs/git' when it comes to installing several dev-perl pkgs begining with dev-perl/Digest-HMAC-1.30.0-r1::gentooi, it fails with a brief explanation: >>> Configuring source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/Di

Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime

2015-08-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote > How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ? > How long between power off/on's ? > > I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep, > then restarting after I've woken & got going agai