Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules

2015-08-20 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:53:39 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Fernando Rodriguez > wrote: > > > > Try a different exercise. Go buy a Quran. Now use it as a cryptographic key to > > encrypt an email. Is the email now a derived work? That's no a perfect analogy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules

2015-08-20 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:13:01 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman : > So, who cares what they think? They don't get to write the law. When > Linus says stuff that is smart, I'll admire him for it. When he says > stuff that is dumb, I'm not afraid to say that the emperor has no > clothes. What do you thi

Re: [gentoo-user] !!!!

2015-08-20 Thread Lee
This has operator error written all over it especially given this operator's level of maturity. On Aug 18, 2015 1:32 PM, "Jeff Smelser" wrote: > What did you update? Nothing I remember recently came out to break like > this. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Like a stu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules

2015-08-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > The point I was trying to make is that just like the email would be useless > unless I have a Quran so will a program be useless without the library it > depends on. I did say it wasn't a very good analogy. Arguably the library is als

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules

2015-08-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:40 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:13:01 -0400 > schrieb Rich Freeman : > >> So, who cares what they think? They don't get to write the law. When >> Linus says stuff that is smart, I'll admire him for it. When he says >> stuff that is dumb, I'm not afra

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAS: keyboard stops working] Recent kernels block the loading of non-GPL kernel modules

2015-08-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > "Uploading is copying. Downloading is also copying. Unauthorized copying > is an unauthorized use that is governed by the copyright laws. > Therefore, unauthorized uploading and unauthorized downloading are > unauthorized uses governed

[gentoo-user] iproute2, unknown tunnel mode gretap

2015-08-20 Thread Erik Mackdanz
Is gretap deprecated, renamed, or replaced? # ip tunnel add foo mode gretap remote 10.54.0.6 local 10.54.0.4 ttl 255 Unknown tunnel mode "gretap" A quick web search turns up many articles and blog posts from recent years with exactly this command. However, neither `man ip-tunnel` nor `ip tun

[gentoo-user] Re: iproute2, unknown tunnel mode gretap

2015-08-20 Thread Erik Mackdanz
Erik Mackdanz writes: > # ip tunnel add foo mode gretap remote 10.54.0.6 local 10.54.0.4 ttl 255 > Unknown tunnel mode "gretap" Never mind, "ip tunnel" is for gre but "ip link" is for gretap. I should paste more and re-use previous commands less :-) -- Erik Mackdanz

[gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Alan Grimes
My five year old CPU has been working it's ass off the last few days doing a full --emptytree world to try to purge the system of the ncurses clusterfuck. Here is the list of FAIL. A few of these might be stale listings because I didn't purge the directory before running this. Also a few of these

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Let me describe what I see. This can't be a clusterfuck, as it is affecting only you. No-one else to my knowledge is reporting problems caused by ncurses. So, it is then highly likely that you have a setup that the devs did not consider, and it is rare (if not unique). So, what exactly did you d

[gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-08-20, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Let me describe what I see. > > This can't be a clusterfuck, as it is affecting only you. No-one else to > my knowledge is reporting problems caused by ncurses. > > So, it is then highly likely that you have a setup that the devs did not > consider, and it is

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Terry Z.
Seeing segfaults in a compile like that makes me question your hardware rather than the gentoo tools. Are you sure your hardware is in a functional state? I update my world fairly often and am running ~amd64 and have not experienced the issue you are experiencing. :( On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:26

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
On 20 August 2015 at 22:37, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Ranting on the list might make you feel better, but is not likely to fix > your problem. Just saying. Don't worry, in his previous thread, named with the insightful subject "", the OP just didn't care to reply after several people chimed in

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:26:08 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > My five year old CPU has been working it's ass off the last few days > doing a full --emptytree world to try to purge the system of the ncurses > clusterfuck. > > Here is the list of FAIL. A few of these might be stale listings because >

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Alan Grimes
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > The ncurses ebuild is indeed broken, I ran into the same problem before. > > But you received good advice on your last thread (build libtinfo on another > system and copy it or just try symlinking it to ncurses), if you'd followed > it > you would a got your system ba

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/08/15 08:31, Alan Grimes wrote: > Fernando Rodriguez wrote: >> The ncurses ebuild is indeed broken, I ran into the same problem >> before. >> >> But you received good advice on your last thread (build libtinfo >> on another system and copy it

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:31:48 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > The ncurses ebuild is indeed broken, I ran into the same problem before. > > > > But you received good advice on your last thread (build libtinfo on another > > system and copy it or just try symlinking it

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Alan Grimes
tortoise ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.2.20.1 (python 3.4.3-final-0, default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop, gcc-4.9.3, glibc-2.21-r1, 4.1.6 x86_64) = System uname: Linux-4.1.6-x86_64-AMD_Phenom-tm-_II_X6_1090T_Processor-with-gentoo-2.2 KiB Me

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/08/15 11:49, Alan Grimes wrote: > tortoise ~ # emerge --info ... Repositories: You have a fair number of overlays. It probably doesn't need to be said, but you should watch out for packages being pulled in from an overlay instead of the defaul

Re: [gentoo-user] Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/08/2015 04:41, wraeth wrote: > On 21/08/15 11:49, Alan Grimes wrote: >> tortoise ~ # emerge --info ... Repositories: > > You have a fair number of overlays. It probably doesn't need to be > said, but you should watch out for packages being pulled in from an > overlay instead of the default G