Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-12-01 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM, »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:43:21 +0300 > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:32:08 +0100 Marc Stürmer wrote: >> > Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: >> > >> > > What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev >> > > p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-12-01 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 01.12.2014 um 09:22 schrieb Pandu Poluan: Actually, that's my point by saying "offer": Rather than letting them build eudev from scratch, let's work together on the eudev we have, promote it to something distro-neutral, then let Gentoo and Devuan (and whatever other distros) derive from that

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

2014-12-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:01:33 +, Mick wrote: > > > Nevertheless, I support moving away from a RHL sponsored > > monolithic binary and hopefully if not today it will happen eventually. > > systemd isn't monolithic so I can only assume you are referring to the > Linux ker

[gentoo-user] automated code validation

2014-12-01 Thread James
Howdy! Software validation has a long, often divisive history, we should all be aware of. I've seen several Computer Scientists (PH.Dumasses) go to fists over "validation". It seems surreal now, but, it was hilarious at the time as none of the (3) involved in the fists_to_cuff had a clue about fig

[gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, another >sigh< from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). For this I used Robert Nelsons Kernel for armv5tel platforms, which boots fine (using at91bootstrap, no U-Boot). But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems "shutdown -h

[gentoo-user] Re: Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread James
gmx.de> writes: > But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems "shutdown -h -H now") > REBOOTS the system instead of powering it down. What about "halt"? man halt > What is the difference here? > Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions > to the kernel and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, wrote: > What is the difference here? > Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions > to the kernel and the kernel is the main actor in bringing the system > down? > About the only thing the kernel might have a role in is turning off the

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > another >sigh< from an Arietta adventure... > > I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 > (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). > > For this I used Robert Nelsons Kernel for armv5tel platforms, > which boots fine (using at91bootstrap, no U-Boot). > > But: Shutdown

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
James [14-12-01 19:12]: > gmx.de> writes: > > > > But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems "shutdown -h -H now") > > REBOOTS the system instead of powering it down. > > What about "halt"? man halt > > > What is the difference here? > > Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only se

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Dale [14-12-01 19:16]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > another >sigh< from an Arietta adventure... > > > > I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 > > (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). > > > > For this I used Robert Nelsons Kernel for armv5tel platforms, > > which boots fine (using at

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Rich Freeman [14-12-01 19:16]: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, wrote: > > What is the difference here? > > Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions > > to the kernel and the kernel is the main actor in bringing the system > > down? > > > > About the only thing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Jc García
2014-12-01 12:40 GMT-06:00 : > Rich Freeman [14-12-01 19:16]: >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, wrote: >> > What is the difference here? >> > Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions >> > to the kernel and the kernel is the main actor in bringing the system >> > do

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread meino . cramer
Jc García [14-12-01 20:36]: > 2014-12-01 12:40 GMT-06:00 : > > Rich Freeman [14-12-01 19:16]: > >> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, wrote: > >> > What is the difference here? > >> > Isn't it, that all shutdown applications only send some instructions > >> > to the kernel and the kernel is the

[gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread James
Anyone know anything about coreos? Lookie lookie, they have "ebuilds"? python-oem-2.7.6-r1.ebuild [1] It clams to be 100% open source. It runs on "bare metal", linux systems, clusters and clouds. It claims to have a much small footprint ~114 MB and boots very very fast via pxi(boot). Very

[gentoo-user] Re: Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread James
gmx.de> writes: > > > But: Shutdown (as recommmended by acmesystems "shutdown -h -H now") > > > REBOOTS the system instead of powering it down. > > What about "halt"? man halt > The problem I think is burried Okay, ferret it out. Does this accomplish what you want: "sync;sync;sync;halt

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, December 01, 2014 7:34:35 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Dale [14-12-01 19:16]: > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > another >sigh< from an Arietta adventure... > > > > > > I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 > > > (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). > > > > > > For t

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, December 01, 2014 7:34:35 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Dale [14-12-01 19:16]: > > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > another >sigh< from an Arietta adventure... > > > > > > I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G25 > > > (http://www.acmesystems.it/arietta). > > > > > > For t

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:46 PM, James wrote: > > It clams to be 100% open source. It runs on "bare metal", linux systems, > clusters and clouds. It claims to have a much small footprint ~114 MB and > boots very very fast via pxi(boot). The whole idea of CoreOS is to be the host for a bunch of con

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:51 PM, wrote: > Jc García [14-12-01 20:36]: >> >> I've not seen you using the -P flag. >> > > That's why the manufacturer of the Arietta G25 - Acmesystems said > to use shutdown -h -H now for that purpose: > http://www.acmesystems.it/qa > Second question below the title

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:46:54 + (UTC), James wrote: > I guess my take is that eventually, linux will be very small, embedded > and a cluster/cloud environment is where most systems will plug in, > kinda like most modern cell phones. Hopefully, there'll be a systemd > centric version so that enab

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown, Gentoo and the Arietta.G25

2014-12-01 Thread Matti Nykyri
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 23:03, Fernando Rodriguez > wrote: > >> On Monday, December 01, 2014 7:34:35 PM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >> Dale [14-12-01 19:16]: >>> meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, another >sigh< from an Arietta adventure... I sintalled Gentoo on an Arietta G2

[gentoo-user] Re: Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread James
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > > To me, it appears that some forward looking folks have forked > > (stolen the best parts?) gentoo, made some fundamental > > (long overdue changes) and are > > all about creating a > > source_to_cluster platform. (h, vaguely sounds > > familiar...scr

Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

2014-12-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:46:54 + (UTC), James wrote: > >> I guess my take is that eventually, linux will be very small, embedded >> and a cluster/cloud environment is where most systems will plug in, >> kinda like most modern cell phones. Hop

[gentoo-user] virus/malware scanner for linux

2014-12-01 Thread Joseph
I know there are some command line virus/malware scanners for Linux? It has been long time ago since I run any of them, that I forgot their names :-/ What are they? -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] virus/malware scanner for linux

2014-12-01 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/12/14 16:24, Joseph wrote: > I know there are some command line virus/malware scanners for > Linux? It has been long time ago since I run any of them, that I > forgot their names :-/ What are they? This sounds like something Google can answer

Re: [gentoo-user] virus/malware scanner for linux

2014-12-01 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: > I know there are some command line virus/malware scanners for Linux? > It has been long time ago since I run any of them, that I forgot their > names :-/ > What are they? > Here is one that I have used in the past. http://www.f-prot.com/ It's no longer in the tree so not sure ho