On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:45:31 +0100 Marc Stürmer wrote:
> Am 25.11.2014 um 18:44 schrieb Gevisz:
>
> > It usually took me from 10 to 20 minutes to download my daily updates
> > in Ubuntu. For big packages - about 40 minutes or even more.
> >
> >> That's the time saving aspect
> >
> > lol :)
>
>
On 25/11/14 23:35, Emanuele Rusconi wrote:
> On 25 November 2014 at 23:42, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> The point was that it could be changed. […]
>>
>> […] It's about as on-topic and relevant as WinXP.
> No, the point was that sometimes even a small annoyance is plenty
> enough to drive people away.
On 24/11/14 19:13, Marc Stürmer wrote:
> Am 24.11.2014 um 19:25 schrieb Gevisz:
>
>> I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing
>> window button "x" to the upper-left corner of the window in Unity of
>> Ubuntu 12.04 while I used to look for it in the upper-right corner. :
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:06:23 +, thegeezer wrote:
> > * stable releases with a more or less stable and predictable release
> > cycle,
>
> debatable - i would suggest "better tested" than stable otherwise there
> would be no need for debian bugzilla
The vagaries of English strike again! When
Is this possible?
I have two layman repos I have added at some point in time in the past:
sunrise, and ultrabug.
I'd like to see what, if any packages, I have installed from them, and
see if I can remove them and ultimately remove the layman repo.
Thanks
man eix
"...
--in-overlay overlay
Only match packages with at least one version in an overlay matching
overlay.
--only-in-overlay overlay
Only match packages which have only versions in an overlay matching
overlay.
-J, --installed-overlay
Only
On 2014-11-22 18:12, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
The first 100 or so I looked at, are deprecated. They just need
somebody
to 'remove them' the BGO java backlog is being artificially used to
prevent java work on gentoo. Somebody of authority needs to open
up java for other folks to work on.
On 11/26/2014 9:28 AM, Александр Паутов wrote:
> man eix
Ah, I thought I'd need to do this with the layman command.
Thanks!
> "-J, --installed-overlay
> Only match packages which have been installed from some overlay.
> To get a completely reliable
> result you s
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM, wrote:
>
> all of gentoo council meetings happen on irc if i remember right so it's not
> like there is an elite group deciding fate they are just sorting things that
> need to be sorted.
>
Per Gentoo's social contract [1] we try to be open about everything.
Ver
Rich Freeman:
> There has been a
> desire for a long time to try to make it easier to contribute, but in
> the end people have to step up to make that happen. Those who are
> most passionate about it are of course the best candidates to try to
> drive change.
>
That's a common misconception in g
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:29 PM, hasufell wrote:
>
> That's a common misconception in gentoo. Someone has an idea and no one
> cares until he "makes it happen". A lot of ideas are not so trivial that
> you can just "make it happen". You need consensus, a shift of thinking,
> workflow and maybe ev
Am Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:35:37 +0100
schrieb Frank Steinmetzger :
> Hey list
>
> during yesterday's upgrade I read the news about python 3.4 being the
> new profile default.
[...]
Perhaps you've noticed by now, but the change was reverted in the meantime.
Furthermore, eselect news shows that the
I still don't see a good argument why we made our system so inflexible,
that obviously needed change needs such high amount of work, PR and proof.
Trying to improve gaming in gentoo took me 2 years full of work just to
realize it is a dead end and I am doing most of the work alone.
The necessity w
On 26/11/14 18:23, Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:35:37 +0100
> schrieb Frank Steinmetzger :
>
>> Hey list
>>
>> during yesterday's upgrade I read the news about python 3.4 being the
>> new profile default.
> [...]
>
> Perhaps you've noticed by now, but the change was reverted in the m
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:23:48 +0100
Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:35:37 +0100
> schrieb Frank Steinmetzger :
>
> > Hey list
> >
> > during yesterday's upgrade I read the news about python 3.4 being
> > the new profile default.
> [...]
>
> Perhaps you've noticed by now, but the cha
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:29 PM, hasufell wrote:
>> I don't know of literally any big project except gentoo that still does
>> not _require_ a review workflow. Git would be the perfect excuse to
>> "make it happen", but that's something peop
On 26-Nov-14 21:03, »Q« wrote:
during yesterday's upgrade I read the news about python 3.4 being
the new profile default.
[...]
Perhaps you've noticed by now, but the change was reverted in the
meantime.
Furthermore, eselect news shows that the news entry got deleted, too:
% eselect news lis
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM, konsolebox wrote:
>
> Is it really official that most significant people on Gentoo don't like the
> change from CVS to Git? Has there been a general discussion about it, and
> what is basically everyone's general argument to it? Just in case attempts
> to change
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:39:17AM +0200, Gevisz wrote
>
> Moreover, if I had to maintain computers for *other* users, I would not
> mind to upgrade their binary distributions every 2 or, better, every 5 years
> even if *their* working environment would every time change from Gnome2
> to Unity and
Am 26.11.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Walter Dnes:
I've been running ICEWM for over 4 years, and blackbox for a few years
before that. What desktop interface change? :)
Switching to ratpoison or i3wm, of course. :>
Am 26.11.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> Most devs can't wait to switch to git. There are a few who might
> prefer to stick with cvs but overall I don't think that is preventing
> us from switching at all.
(without having read the whole thread, sorry)
my *personal opinion* is that git bri
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On 27/11/14 06:28, thegeezer wrote:
> On 26/11/14 18:23, Marc Joliet wrote:
>> Am Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:35:37 +0100 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger
>> :
>>> during yesterday's upgrade I read the news about python 3.4
>>> being the new profile default.
>>
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> On 27/11/14 06:28, thegeezer wrote:
> > On 26/11/14 18:23, Marc Joliet wrote:
> >> Am Tue, 25 Nov 2014 04:35:37 +0100 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger
> >> :
> >>> during yesterday's upgrade
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>
> Sometimes I wonder why syncing portage isn't yet available via git ;-)
>
Well, right now it is because it is too much of a pain to try to keep
cvs and git in sync.
However, the plan for the future is to have a master repo (where th
you might check out webrsync fwiw
On 11/26/14 23:43, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>> Sometimes I wonder why syncing portage isn't yet available via git ;-)
>>
> Well, right now it is because it is too much of a pain to try to keep
> cvs and gi
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Paige Thompson wrote:
> you might check out webrsync fwiw
>
Webrsync is great, of course, but not really the same thing as git.
Changelogs will also go away when we move to git.
--
Rich
You know I don't think thats going to happen because if you look at
layman its not as if they didn't think of using git for package trees;
all of them do use git.
A good example of why I don't think they will be using git for portage:
``git clone https://git.kernel.org'
This takes a very long tim
Have a look at this
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2935899/is-there-any-git-repository-with-official-daily-updated-gentoo-portage
On 11/27/14 02:03, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Paige Thompson wrote:
>> you might check out webrsync fwiw
>>
> Webrsync is great, of co
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Paige Thompson wrote:
> A good example of why I don't think they will be using git for portage:
> ``git clone https://git.kernel.org'
>
> This takes a very long time and a lot of bandwidth and a lot of space.
> Why move data that isn't going to be used? With rsync
Paige Thompson:
> You know I don't think thats going to happen because if you look at
> layman its not as if they didn't think of using git for package trees;
> all of them do use git.
>
> A good example of why I don't think they will be using git for portage:
> ``git clone https://git.kernel.org'
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