Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:09:12 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Screen and tabs are different solutions to different problems. When > > working with multiple SSH sessions to different machines, and not > > using ClusterSSH, I find it most convenient to have a tab for each > > host, with a screen

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels [SOLVED]

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 27 Jan 2014 16:04:44 I wrote: > On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 21:42:54 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 21:28:55 I wrote: > > > On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 20:13:58 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > Uncomment this line in /etc/default/grub > > > > > > > > #GRUB_TERMINAL=console > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Python Installation broken

2014-01-28 Thread Joakim Gebart
2014-01-28 Silvio Siefke : > Hello, the error message was not correct copy & paste. Im in crisis :) > > gentoomobile ~ # equery u nikola > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/bin/equery", line 5, in > from pkg_resources import load_entry_point > File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-pa

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Thomas Mueller
> I do. Why, does it have its own info reader? Personally I've never had to bite > the bullet and had to learn how to use info. > Regards > Peter I tried to learn info and never did well, always lost my place and had to hit q to get out. Reading the info file as plain text worked better

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > That sounds nice but is a Bad Idea in the real world where most people > judge things by the default setup. Turns off the nice features and 90+% > of people trying the software don't see them. Really?, Try that approach at a carrier network support center,

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 13:38, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> I do. Why, does it have its own info reader? Personally I've never had to >> bite >> the bullet and had to learn how to use info. > >> Regards >> Peter > > I tried to learn info and never did well, always lost my place and had to hit > q to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 12:03:30 + (UTC), James wrote: > > That sounds nice but is a Bad Idea in the real world where most people > > judge things by the default setup. Turns off the nice features and > > 90+% of people trying the software don't see them. > > Really?, Try that approach at a car

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 28 Jan 2014 14:26:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: > You could even go so far as to auto-convert all info pages yourself at > emerge time by hooking a custom script into portage's phase hooks. Then > view it locally in a browser; the info in info pages is actually very > good (far better than in

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 14:54, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 28 Jan 2014 14:26:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> You could even go so far as to auto-convert all info pages yourself at >> emerge time by hooking a custom script into portage's phase hooks. Then >> view it locally in a browser; the info in info

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 14:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> Really?, Try that approach at a carrier network support center, where >> > new stuff is rolled out to cutomers without first explaing, warning >> > and offering up options. It's shows a blatant disrespect for >> > the existing customer base. Nobod

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:34:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/01/2014 14:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> Really?, Try that approach at a carrier network support center, > >> where > >> > new stuff is rolled out to cutomers without first explaing, warning > >> > and offering up options. It

Re: [gentoo-user] xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 04:52:22PM +, James wrote: > One thing I miss > is feature rich tabbed terminal session. I recommend checking out x11-terms/terminator[0]. It can do tabs, and it can also do grids. It's nice. [0] http://gnometerminator.blogspot.com/p/introduction.html

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > Yes, really. People boot a distro's live CD, maybe install it, and make > quick decisions about whether they like it or not. Thats a different opportunity/customer, than one that was a faithful and loyal customer. You cannot treat those (new customers) li

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Walter Dnes waltdnes.org> writes: > I went all the way to ICEWM; see my sig. It's been a log time for me with minimal Window Managers. I'm sure I'll get around to testing icewm. > In your bash profile (if you use bash), howsabout > export PS1='[\h][\u][\w]' > Actually, I go for a fancy

[gentoo-user] Minimal (fast and cool)

2014-01-28 Thread James
I'm interested in aggregating tips, tricks, ebuild suggestions and config file snippets and examples, related to going minimal on your system, regardless if your system in resource constrained or not. The benefit is not limited to resource constrained systems. The idea is when a person ditches KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:35:55 + (UTC), James wrote: > > > Note, I've use a myriad of qt > > > based open source and commercial products on embedded systems. > > > Those efforts do not mirror the "attide" of the KDE camp, you > > > espouse so well. > > I've no idea what you are trying to say her

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > The question was about desktop usage, it was about moving from KDE to > LXDE. How things work in a completely different environment is > irrelevant, the rules are different. To Neil and Alan: These examples are trite and are simply and quickly offered up

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > I take it you compile your own ernel then :) (OOCH)(grin)

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
hasufell wrote: > > Many defaults gentoo sets do not have anything to do with default > codepaths upstream has tested. I disagree: The USE-enabling in ebuilds usually follows upstream. IIRC there was even a policy for gentoo developers which strongly suggested this. > As above, our defaults are

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > To go back to the OP's original point, having hostnames on > the tabs also makes it obvious which sessions I have open. If you use an appropriate prompt as I have recommended (which modifies [hard] status line) you see the sessions in the "tabs" of tmux - only that by defau

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-28 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2014 06:45 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > hasufell wrote: >> >> Many defaults gentoo sets do not have anything to do with >> default codepaths upstream has tested. > > I disagree: The USE-enabling in ebuilds usually follows upstream. > IIRC the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:53:58 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: > > To go back to the OP's original point, having hostnames on > > the tabs also makes it obvious which sessions I have open. > > If you use an appropriate prompt as I have recommended > (which modifies [hard] status line) you see th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:44:32 + (UTC), James wrote: > To Neil and Alan: These examples are trite and are simply and quickly > offered up as examples on each others perspectives, irrespecitve of > minutia. Old dogs snarl quite a bit, but do not move off of their > haunches, unless sufficiently m

[gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Thanasis
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources? Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. I know I can specify it like so, emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.28 but then it w

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Tselischev
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: > Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest > 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with > the latest gentoo-sources? > > Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. > I know I can specif

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Thanasis
on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with >> the latest gentoo-sources? >

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread eroen
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200, Thanasis wrote: >Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with >the latest gentoo-sources? > >Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. >I know I can specify it like s

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I haven't used tmux for a while, I tried it and went back to screen, but > does it really show the titles of all sessions? On the hardstatus line you see in tmux all sessions with their numbers and "their" hardstatus line. [More precisely, you see all windows which in tm

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >>> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >>> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in par

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >>> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >>> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in par

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:21:33 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > I haven't used tmux for a while, I tried it and went back to screen, > > but does it really show the titles of all sessions? > > On the hardstatus line you see in tmux all sessions > with their numbers a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: >>> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >>> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in par