Re: [gentoo-user] Sloppy sterm screen update over ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Dragostin Yanev
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:06:51 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:33:19AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Walter Dnes > > wrote: > > > I've recently noticed when ssh'ing into another machine that > > > the xterm display doesn't fully update. I.

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 07:48:59 +0200, jo...@antarean.org wrote: > >On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still > >> in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the > >> portage directory lives, but the ha

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-03 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 02 Oct 2013 08:06:42 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > in "good" tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks ati-driv

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-03 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 02.10.2013 16:28, Alan McKinnon wrote: [ ... ] You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to a long-standing bug. Incidentally, do you know why the tree is in /usr? Because FreeBSD ports puts it there. Why did they do that? Because FreeBSD is not Linux; it is derived

[gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Does anyone of you use virt-manager to control QEMU/KVM-hosts? I do or try ... and I always get hickups when I edit VM-settings. Tried virt-manager-0.9.5, 0.10.0, 0.10.0-r1 ... same behavior, when I click Save for setting the disks properties it runs into a timeout or something. The connection

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:19, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 10/02/2013 09:06:42 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> > On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >> Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > in "good" traditio

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread William Kenworthy
On 03/10/13 17:18, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Does anyone of you use virt-manager to control QEMU/KVM-hosts? > > I do or try ... and I always get hickups when I edit VM-settings. > > Tried virt-manager-0.9.5, 0.10.0, 0.10.0-r1 ... same behavior, when I > click Save for setting the disks pr

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 11:43, schrieb William Kenworthy: > On 03/10/13 17:18, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> Does anyone of you use virt-manager to control QEMU/KVM-hosts? >> >> I do or try ... and I always get hickups when I edit VM-settings. >> >> Tried virt-manager-0.9.5, 0.10.0, 0.10.0-r1 ... same b

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 11:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Are you running stp. I was having a problem that when I did anything to >> libvirt it would disconnect the bridge and stp reconfigured. Turning it >> off fixed it (am using openvswitch) > > Could you specify where to turn that off? I don't k

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 11:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.10.2013 11:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >>> Are you running stp. I was having a problem that when I did anything to >>> libvirt it would disconnect the bridge and stp reconfigured. Turning it >>> off fixed it (am using openvswitch

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Kerin Millar
On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... What is the significance of its date? I use reiserfs on my Atom box for /var, /var/cache/squid and /usr/port

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-03 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 10/03/2013 09:08:56 AM, Mick wrote: Curious, is there a reason you are not using the radeon driver instead of the ati proprietary drivers? -- I haven't checked recently but I remember that google-earth didn't work with the radeon drivers. Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 03.10.2013 11:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.10.2013 11:49, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Am 03.10.2013 11:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Are you running stp. I was having a problem that when I did anything to libvirt it would disconnect the bridge and stp reconfig

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 13:42, schrieb Michael Hampicke: > Did you restart libvirt after the change? > > virt-manager over ssh here works fine. Restarted, rebuilt ... which release do you use? Which USE-flags? I get "closed client socket" again right now.

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 03.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Kerin Millar: > On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: >>> In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... >>> >>> What is the significance of its date? I use re

Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 03.10.2013 11:00, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: > I apologize but I always thought that it's Linux that derives from > AT&T SysV (1983), while FreeBSD derives from ... BSD (1978). How come > then Linux uses SysV init and BSD does not? ;) no, no and no.

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 03 Oct 2013 10:55:12 Kerin Millar wrote: > In my view, ReiserFS is only useful for saving space through tail > packing. Unfortunately, tail packing makes it slower still (an issue > that was supposed to be resolved for good in Reiser4). If I remember aright, I started using ReiserFS b

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Kerin Millar wrote: > On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: >>> In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... >>> >>> >>> What is the significance

[gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread James
William Hubbs gentoo.org> writes: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: > > > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html > Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other > members of the Ope

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2013 14:55, James wrote: > William Hubbs gentoo.org> writes: > > >> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: >>> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: >>> >>> http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html > >> Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days,

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 03.10.2013 13:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.10.2013 13:42, schrieb Michael Hampicke: > >> Did you restart libvirt after the change? >> >> virt-manager over ssh here works fine. > > Restarted, rebuilt ... > > which release do you use? Which USE-flags? > Client side: [ebuild R

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/03/2013 08:57 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> I'm not too sure about the kernel sources: >> "is provided by Gandi and cannot be modified" > > That's a GPL violation right there. > > The developer absolutely totally cannot do that. He/she may refuse to > provide support if the kernel image is

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 15:39, schrieb Michael Hampicke: > Server side: > > [ebuild R ~] app-emulation/libvirt-1.1.2-r3 USE="caps libvirtd > lvm macvtap nls numa python qemu udev vepa virt-network -audit > -avahi -firewalld -fuse -iscsi -lxc -nfs -openvz -parted -pcap > -phyp -policykit -rbd -sasl (-s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Dragostin Yanev
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:57:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/10/2013 14:55, James wrote: > > William Hubbs gentoo.org> writes: > > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > >>> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: > >>> > >>> http://skarnet

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2013 16:09, Dragostin Yanev wrote: > On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:57:38 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 03/10/2013 14:55, James wrote: >>> William Hubbs gentoo.org> writes: >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > Just stumbled across some very inter

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:52:36AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: > > > > > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.htm

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 3, 2013 9:26 PM, "William Hubbs" wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:52:36AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > > > > Just stumbled across some very interesting sof

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 16:03, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.10.2013 15:39, schrieb Michael Hampicke: > >> Server side: >> >> [ebuild R ~] app-emulation/libvirt-1.1.2-r3 USE="caps libvirtd >> lvm macvtap nls numa python qemu udev vepa virt-network -audit >> -avahi -firewalld -fuse -iscsi -lxc -

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Maybe my bridge-setup is wrong? # cat /etc/systemd/system/bridge.service [Unit] Description=network bridge for KVM After=network.target [Service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network_systemd ExecStart=/sbin/brctl addbr ${bridge_name} ExecStart=/usr/bin/tunctl -b

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 09:39:27PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > I chuckle at what s6's author wrote about systemd: > > http://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-svscan-not-1.html > Yes, I saw that too. I don't know anything about D-Bus, so I can't comment specifically about it, but I tend to agree qui

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 17:15, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > Maybe my bridge-setup is wrong? unlikely ... I use the same setup on at least 2 others systems w/ QEMU/KVM and systemd. compared USE-flags ... same. The main difference is the connection ... IPSEC and stuff ... I tested and edited a VM on

[gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > I think you are misreading that sentence out of it's context. > > The context as I read it states that the hosting server is a VPS leased > > by Gandi and they don't have control over the kernel (openvz, lxc, > > containers, etc..). > Michael cleared that up

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread joost
Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> >> I hate getting older. lol >> > >> >It's a lot better than the alternative... > >> What is wrong with getting younger? > >That's an opposite, not an alternative > > >-- >Neil Bothwick > >For security reasons

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-03 12:10 PM, jo...@antarean.org wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: I hate getting older. lol It's a lot better than the alternative... What is wrong with getting younger? pedant>That's an opposite, not an alternative What

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:10:19 +0200, jo...@antarean.org wrote: > >> >> I hate getting older. lol > >> > > >> >It's a lot better than the alternative... > > > >> What is wrong with getting younger? > > > >That's an opposite, not an alternative > What would the alternative be then? Thi

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Kerin Millar
On 03/10/2013 13:08, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 03.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Kerin Millar: On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote: In my opinion, reiser is a bit outdated ... What is the si

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 03:32:40PM +, James wrote: > Well, these minimalist--> embedded distros have finely tuned > kernels and that is a quintessential characteristic. If the upstream kernel > is availble in source form, with some docs, then why does the (mini) distro > just make provisions fo

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 02/10/2013 19:37, Paul Hartman wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >>> On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote: Rsync mirrors don't grow on trees, man. People pay good money to provide that service

Re: [gentoo-user] which filesystem is more suitable for /var/tmp/portage?

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 03.10.2013 18:32, schrieb Kerin Millar: > On 03/10/2013 13:08, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 03.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Kerin Millar: >>> On 18/09/2013 16:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 18/09/2013 16:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 18 Sep 2013 14:52:30 Ralf Ramsauer wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/10/2013 18:57, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 02/10/2013 19:37, Paul Hartman wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon >>> wrote: On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote: [snip] >> You don't sync very often, right? >

[gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration?

2013-10-03 Thread Grant Edwards
Let's say you wanted to configure routing of TCP packets based on destination port like in this example: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.netfilter.html [which contains a series of 'ip' and 'iptables' commands to get packets destined for port 25 to use a specific gateway.] Ho

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-03 Thread joost
Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:10:19 +0200, jo...@antarean.org wrote: > >> >> >> I hate getting older. lol >> >> > >> >> >It's a lot better than the alternative... >> > >> >> What is wrong with getting younger? >> > >> >That's an opposite, not an alternative > >> What wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put advanced routing configuration?

2013-10-03 Thread Kerin Millar
On 03/10/2013 20:27, Grant Edwards wrote: Let's say you wanted to configure routing of TCP packets based on destination port like in this example: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.netfilter.html [which contains a series of 'ip' and 'iptables' commands to get packets destined

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote > Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: > > http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Out of sheer curiousity, what common software would break under uclibc? My first gues would be stuff like Schlockwave/Trash and Nvidia b

Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 04.10.2013 00:32, schrieb Walter Dnes: > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote >> Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: >> >> http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html > Out of sheer curiousity, what common software would break under > uclibc? My first gues w

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager and ssh

2013-10-03 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 03.10.2013 17:32, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 03.10.2013 17:15, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> >> Maybe my bridge-setup is wrong? > > unlikely ... I use the same setup on at least 2 others systems w/ > QEMU/KVM and systemd. > > compared USE-flags ... same. > > The main difference is