Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.08.2013 07:19, schrieb Samuli Suominen: > 2.02.99-r1 has it's own upstream systemd files in ~arch now (they are > different from what the "systemd-love" overlay has, AFAIK) > > $ qlist lvm2 |grep systemd > /usr/lib/systemd/system/dm-event.socket > /usr/lib/systemd/system/dm-event.service >

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread András Csányi
On 7 August 2013 02:38, walt wrote: > I was so hot to prove to myself that I could do the Big Update on both > systemd and openrc gentoo machines that I didn't spend much time actually > *using* gnome-3.8 until yesterday. > > Have you ever lived or worked in a building during a big remodeling? Wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.08.2013 11:13, schrieb András Csányi: > Kde is not a possible solution for you? I'm just asking, I do not want > to start a flamewar about which is the better/worst. :) > > That's the reason why I have kde and xfce on my machine. I always have > a fallback plan. I spend I few weeks for Unit

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2013 11:15, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 09.08.2013 11:13, schrieb András Csányi: > >> Kde is not a possible solution for you? I'm just asking, I do not want >> to start a flamewar about which is the better/worst. :) >> >> That's the reason why I have kde and xfce on my machine. I alw

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-01 2:43 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:28:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from udev to eudev. emerge -Ca udev emerge -1a eudev Two last questions

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 09 Aug 2013 11:33:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: > I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what > Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. Is there any advantage in a KDE user switching to systemd? I've seen the arguments for and

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2013 13:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 09 Aug 2013 11:33:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > >> I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what > >> Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using > systemd. > > > > Is there any advantag

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:12:50 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me > >> find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from udev to > >> eudev. > > > > emerge -Ca udev > > emerge -1a eudev > > Two last questions (first one never

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:33:53AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what > Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. This would be a _very_ good post to end this thread upon. Too bad there's not an

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-09 8:24 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:12:50 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from udev to eudev. emerge -Ca udev emerge -1a eudev Two last questions

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread hasufell
On 08/09/2013 02:25 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:33:53AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what >> Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. > > This would be a _very_ good po

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: > > You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO filter messages. using D has worked to prune the list. -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Henry W. Peters
On 8/9/2013 8:58 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO filter messages. using D has worked to prune the list. Do not really wish to belab

Re: [gentoo-user] -flto set for simh-3.9.0-r1 let gcc fail on my Beaglebone Black

2013-08-09 Thread meino . cramer
Adam Carter [13-08-09 17:27]: > > I already tried do set new CFLAGS via /etc/portage/env/nolto.conf: > > > > beagleboneblack:portage/package.env>cat simh > > app-emulation/simh no-lto.conf > > > > and and an according file in /etc/porttage/package.env: > > > > beagleboneblack:portage/p

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Henry W. Peters wrote: > On 8/9/2013 8:58 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: >>> >>> You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. >> >> I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO filter

Re: [gentoo-user] -flto set for simh-3.9.0-r1 let gcc fail on my Beaglebone Black

2013-08-09 Thread meino . cramer
meino.cra...@gmx.de [13-08-09 18:32]: > Adam Carter [13-08-09 17:27]: > > > I already tried do set new CFLAGS via /etc/portage/env/nolto.conf: > > > > > > beagleboneblack:portage/package.env>cat simh > > > app-emulation/simh no-lto.conf > > > > > > and and an according file in /etc/portta

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 08:45:47 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > No, the virtual is always needed, eudev satisfies it. but you do need > > to make sure your USE settings for eudev and virtual/udev match. > > Ok... so, as long as I don't have anything for either of them in > package.use, I'm ok? > > O

Re: [gentoo-user] -flto set for simh-3.9.0-r1 let gcc fail on my Beaglebone Black

2013-08-09 Thread Adam Carter
> > For me I need to know, whether it is safe to recompile gcc natively on > the beaglebone with lto support enabled via USE flag. > This compilation will take about eight hours. > So it would be fine to decide on a little bit more than try and error. ;) > > Or how can I circumvent the described pr