Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone compiled libreoffice-3.6.0.4 yet?

2012-08-12 Thread v_2e
Hello! In contrast to previous speakers with more or less successful LibreOffice 3.6.0.4 build, on my machine it does not build at all. After >10 hours of compiling (which is a bit longer than a usual time for 3.5) it said: -

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Alex Schuster
Frank Steinmetzger writes: > So after the recent thread here about 32bit/64bit and some arguments > from a friend, I made the switch from 32 bit to 64 bit (with a clean > install from scratch of course). There’s one big problem I’m having: I > cannot see the Grub (legacy) boot menu. It still fun

[gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Walter Dnes
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html Well, we intent to continue to make it possible to run udevd outside of systemd. But that's about it. We will not polish that, or add new features t

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 05:52:11 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html So, what is it going to take to convince Lennart that, contrary to what he thinks, he actually isn't the only human on the planet? I'd like to hear GregKH's

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:47:36 +0200 Alex Schuster wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger writes: > > > So after the recent thread here about 32bit/64bit and some arguments > > from a friend, I made the switch from 32 bit to 64 bit (with a clean > > install from scratch of course). There’s one big problem I

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 05:52:11 -0400 > "Walter Dnes" wrote: > >> >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html > > > So, what is it going to take to convince Lennart that, contrary to what > he thinks, he actu

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html > > (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you > haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop > that suppor

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone compiled libreoffice-3.6.0.4 yet?

2012-08-12 Thread v_2e
Looks like developers have already caught this issue. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428328#c8 On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:50:31 +0300 v...@ukr.net wrote: > Hello! > In contrast to previous speakers with more or less successful > LibreOffice 3.6.0.4 build, on my machine it does not buil

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread William Kenworthy
Hi Walter, can you expand on the LVM2 problem you mention on the MDEV page and/or a link if there is one on the status? I am building a new desktop (finally building as 64bit!) which will need lvm2 and after trying gnome3 for a couple of months on my existing machines, I have decided that its too

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html > > (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you > > haven't noticed i

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > >> I'm confused about the xorg stuff in the WiKi. It mentions the evdev driver >> as >> critical, but at the Notes at the bottom you say "evdev need udev to be >> built". Can

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 Aug 2012 11:01:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:47:36 +0200 > > Alex Schuster wrote: > > Frank Steinmetzger writes: > > > So after the recent thread here about 32bit/64bit and some arguments > > > from a friend, I made the switch from 32 bit to 64 bit (with a clean >

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Sebastian Beßler
On 08/12/12 15:04, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Is it possible at all to drop udev and still use xorg? Are the old (i.e., > pre-evdev) drivers still usable? Even if they are, I bet all future > developments will go the same way: force uniformity and submission. The old kbd and mouse drivers for X still

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone compiled libreoffice-3.6.0.4 yet?

2012-08-12 Thread Philip Webb
ug report, please include the following information: GENTOO_VM= CLASSPATH="" JAVA_HOME="" JAVACFLAGS="" COMPILER="" and of course, the output of emerge --info * The complete build log is located at '/var/log/emerge-logs/app-office:libreoffice-3.6.0.4:2012081

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone compiled libreoffice-3.6.0.4 yet?

2012-08-12 Thread Philip Webb
120812 Philip Webb wrote: > 120812 v...@ukr.net wrote: >> Looks like developers have already caught this issue. >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428328#c8 > I'll try merging again with USE="xmlsec" , as the bug fix recommends. Yes, it compiled with that flag. While it used less memory

[gentoo-user] udev-181 saga continues with udisks (~amd64)

2012-08-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I have been masking udev-181 so that I can continue to keep my current system with / and /usr separate partitions. This has required masking pciutils and usbutils as well. /etc/portage/package.mask/udev-181 contains >=sys-fs/udev-181 >=sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r2 >=sys-apps/usbutils-005-r1 N

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone compiled libreoffice-3.6.0.4 yet?

2012-08-12 Thread walt
On 08/12/2012 10:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > 120812 Philip Webb wrote: >> 120812 v...@ukr.net wrote: >>> Looks like developers have already caught this issue. >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428328#c8 >> I'll try merging again with USE="xmlsec" , as the bug fix recommends. > > Yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:25:51 -0400 > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> I am getting a new laptop from dell that will dual boot windows (in >> case I need dell maintenance) and gentoo (real work). I have done >> this often, but there are three new aspects this

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> You also don't need an IO scheduler - ssd access is random like >> RAM, no heads moving in and out so no sector ordering to worry about. >> Configure the scheduler as NOOP in kernel config if al

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-181 saga continues with udisks (~amd64)

2012-08-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > I have been masking udev-181 so that I can continue to keep my current > system with / and /usr separate partitions. > > This has required masking pciutils and usbutils as well. > /etc/portage/package.mask/udev-181 contains > >=sys-fs/ude

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-181 saga continues with udisks (~amd64)

2012-08-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Sun, Aug 12 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> I have been masking udev-181 so that I can continue to keep my current >> system with / and /usr separate partitions. >> >> This has required masking pciutils and usbutils as well. >> /etc

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: [snip] > PS @Michael Mol: it is nice for you that you joined Google+ recently, but > are > you aware that they scanned your address book and spammed around about it? > There are some of us who don’t want to be part of any social moloch.

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 Aug 2012 19:52:26 Michael Mol wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > [snip] > > > PS @Michael Mol: it is nice for you that you joined Google+ recently, but > > are > > you aware that they scanned your address book and spammed around about > > it? The

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:25:51 -0400 > > Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > >> I am getting a new laptop from dell that will dual boot windows (in > >> case I need dell maintenance) and gentoo (rea

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 12 Aug 2012 19:52:26 Michael Mol wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Frank Steinmetzger > wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > PS @Michael Mol: it is nice for you that you joined Google+ recently, > but > > > are > > > you aware that th

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: "Bright" colours in xterm?

2012-08-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > When I fire up vim in a true text console, some of the colours are > bright. When I do so in an xterm, the bright colours ar there, but as > soon as I hit a printable or arrow key, the brightness disappears. I.e. > bright blue turns to da

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone compiled libreoffice-3.6.0.4 yet?

2012-08-12 Thread Philip Webb
120812 walt wrote: > On 08/12/2012 10:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >> Yes, it compiled with USE="xmlsec" . >> While it used less memory than 2 emerges ago, >> it used more disk space ( 4 GB ) & took much longer ( 3 h 2 m ). >> OTOH it also opens almost at once, so I'll take the trade-offs. > I'm gl

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 02:31:07PM +0100, Mick wrote: > > > > So after the recent thread here about 32bit/64bit and some arguments > > > > from a friend, I made the switch from 32 bit to 64 bit (with a clean > > > > install from scratch of course). There’s one big problem I’m > > > > having: I ca

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:52:32 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > When grub is running and showing it's menu, the only thing > > > active > ---^ > *cough* *wink wink* damn, I got that one the wrong way round. again. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmai

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 02:31:07PM +0100, Mick wrote: > > So after the recent thread here about 32bit/64bit and some arguments > from a friend, I made the switch from 32 bit to 64 bit (with a clean > install from scratch of course). There’s one big problem I

[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] OT: "Bright" colours in xterm?

2012-08-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 04:38:11PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > The other thing you can do is add 'set background=dark' to your .vimrc. Thanks. That did the trick. Not exactly intuitive, to say the least. -- Walter Dnes

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] OT: "Bright" colours in xterm?

2012-08-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 04:38:11PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > > > The other thing you can do is add 'set background=dark' to your .vimrc. > > Thanks. That did the trick. Not exactly intuitive, to say the least. > One of the first tricks I

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote > Walter, > > I'm confused about the xorg stuff in the WiKi. It mentions the > evdev driver as critical, but at the Notes at the bottom you say > "evdev need udev to be built". Can you clarify this? I'll have to edit the wiki. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot see Grub menu

2012-08-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 13 August 2012 00:08:16 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:52:32 +0200 > > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > When grub is running and showing it's menu, the only thing > > > > active > > > > ---^ > > *cough* *wink wink* > > damn, I got th

Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth

2012-08-12 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 07:26:15PM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote > Hi Walter, can you expand on the LVM2 problem you mention on the MDEV > page and/or a link if there is one on the status? > > I am building a new desktop (finally building as 64bit!) which will need > lvm2 and after trying gnome3