Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Mike Gilbert wrote: > Thanks for "announcing" this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night. > > Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your > kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or kernel-version. For > example: > > /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.3 > /boot/kernel-2.6.39-g

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Michael Mol
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Dale wrote: > > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> Thanks for "announcing" this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night. >> >> Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your >> kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or kernel-version. For >> ex

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a kernel. Is there a difference between bzImage and vmlinux?

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:50:27 -0500, Dale wrote: > Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but > never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* > because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a > kernel. Is there a difference between

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:50:27 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but >> never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* >> because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a >> kernel. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Dale wrote: >> Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> Thanks for "announcing" this Dale. grub-2.00 is in ~arch as of last night. >>> >>> Given your current naming scheme, grub2-mkconfig will not detect your >>> kernels. They must be named vmlinuz-version or k

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a kernel. Is there a difference between bzImage and vmlin

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Dale wrote: >> AFAIK, you should be fine renaming bzImage to vmlinuz. (Note the z. >> It's vmlinuz, not vmlinux") >> > > Well that fixed one thing already. lol I bet I would have named that > wrong. ;-) > > vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't th

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-06-30, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 29 June 2012 21:46:20 Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Things have been going steadily downhill since the days of V7 on a >> PDP-11 with 256K words of RAM, a 20MB hard drive and uucp via dial-up >> modems for "networking". Real programmers didn't _need_ m

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Seriously though, why not use make install? That way you know the > > right files get copied and given the expected names. > > Because I name my kernel and config the same thing. I also don't like > the way it does that link thingy it does. It seems to e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Re: Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 June 2012 15:52:13 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-06-30, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > The displays were graphic stroke writers, as used in submarines and > > other warships - none of that nasty raster technology. I think the > > display drivers were more complex than the CPUs - all tha

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Hartmut Figge
Alex Schuster: >I'll continue to use the old Grub, as it's working fine for me. And i am still happy with lilo. Am i the only one? ;) Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Frank Peters
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:05:31 +0200 Hartmut Figge wrote: > > And i am still happy with lilo. Am i the only one? ;) > Heck no. I use lilo on all of my LInux machines, and when the time comes to switch to EFI, I will switch to elilo. In fact, the Intel MB's that I use all have the capability to

[gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
In some cases , when i run somethings with "sudo" , it tells me "Permission Denied" , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record the cases . Did anyone have any ideas ? -- 好好学习,天天向上!!!

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Alecks Gates
On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM, "赵佳晖" wrote: > > In some cases , when i run somethings with "sudo" , it tells me "Permission Denied" , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record the cases . Did anyone have any ideas ? > > -- > 好好学习,天天向上!!! I think it would depend on the use case, but try "sudo -i"

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 01:27:49 +0800, 赵佳晖 wrote: > In some cases , when i run somethings with "sudo" , it tells me > "Permission Denied" , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record > the cases . Did anyone have any ideas ? Are you trying to redirect the output? That can give this message beca

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Éric DUNAND
Le Sat, 30 Jun 2012 19:48:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick a écrit : > On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 01:27:49 +0800, 赵佳晖 wrote: > > > In some cases , when i run somethings with "sudo" , it tells me > > "Permission Denied" , then i should turn to root . i forgot to > > record the cases . Did anyone have any ideas ?

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 30/06/12 17:10, Dale wrote: Michael Mol wrote: AFAIK, you should be fine renaming bzImage to vmlinuz. (Note the z. It's vmlinuz, not vmlinux") Well that fixed one thing already. lol I bet I would have named that wrong. ;-) vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't they. :/

[gentoo-user] GUI for GRUB 2

2012-06-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
For KDE users who want to switch to GRUB 2, there's a GUI for it in KDE Extragear: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/sysadmin/kcm-grub2 http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=139643 It's in portage: kde-misc/kcm-grub2 It's a KCM, that means you'll find it in System Setti

Re: [gentoo-user] pvcreate won't create pv

2012-06-30 Thread Stroller
On 29 June 2012, at 23:05, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: >> ... >> How come its hda? Perhaps this is the problem, it certainly should be >> fixed anyway. > > Because it was set up that way 8 years ago. /dev/hda is the only IDE > drive in the system, and has the MBR, so I can't make /dev/hda an LVM >

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: >> >> Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but >> never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* >> because that is what it is named when I type make etc to build a >> kernel. Is there

[gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
Hi group, Please take a look at this clip from /var/log/messages: https://paste.lugons.org/show/2679/ Can somebody tell me what it means? It never changes, char by char. It goes on forever, over and over again. At one time I wanted kernel debugging, but I've returned to menuconfig and turned it

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: > > Seriously though, why not use make install? That way you know the > > right files get copied and given the expected names. > Because I name my kernel and config the same thing. make install also copies your config to /boot, with a matching name

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote: > I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing > the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me. Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you don't have symlinks to the kernels and you don't update the config, how do you bo

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:10:11 -0500, Dale wrote: > vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't they. :/ Just to confuse things, I used to run a PPC machine, and the kernel was called vmlinux on that :-O -- Neil Bothwick Ultimate memory manager; Windows, it manages to use it all..

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:45:34 -0700, walt wrote: > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start > > Thanks for the tip. /etc/make.conf strikes me as an odd > place to put settings that apply to only one package. How about VIDEO_CARDS - only used by xorg-drivers LIRC_DEVICES - only used by

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 Jun 2012 23:01:40 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: > > It seems to expect to keep > > only two kernels around and I'm real bad to have more than that, > > sometimes way more than that. > > No it doesn't, it only installs kernels, not uninstalls

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/07/12 01:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:10:11 -0500, Dale wrote: vmlinuz. Weird. They did that to confuse me didn't they. :/ Just to confuse things, I used to run a PPC machine, and the kernel was called vmlinux on that :-O IIRC, "vmlinux" was the name for uncompre

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Saturday 30 Jun 2012 23:01:40 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> It seems to expect to keep >>> only two kernels around and I'm real bad to have more than that, >>> sometimes way more than that. >> No it doesn't, it only installs kernels, no

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing >> the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me. > Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you don't have symlinks to > the kernels and you don't upd

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Alecks Gates
On Jun 30, 2012 7:13 PM, "Dale" wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 15:24:17 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > >> I still don't like the deal of having to run something after changing > >> the kernel tho. It seems to lilo-ish to me. > > Then how do you manage with GRUB legacy? If you d

Re: [gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Maxim Wexler wrote: > Hi group, > > Please take a look at this clip from /var/log/messages: > > https://paste.lugons.org/show/2679/ > > Can somebody tell me what it means? It never changes, char by char. It > goes on forever, over and over again. At one time I wan

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.

2012-06-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dale wrote: > G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: >> On 06/30/2012 05:50 AM, Dale wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. Now more questions. I have read about this a few times but >>> never quite figured it out. I copy the bzImage and name it bzImage-* >>> because that is what it is named

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
The -i option didn't work, it also says Permission Denied 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates > On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM, "赵佳晖" wrote: > > > > In some cases , when i run somethings with "sudo" , it tells me > "Permission Denied" , then i should turn to root . i forgot to record the > cases . Did anyone have

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
I have use your method , it didn't work . Like: sudo echo "sys-boot/grub:2 **" >> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/package.keywords.grub2 echo "sys-boot/grub:2 **" | sudo tee /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/package.keywords.grub2 And the result : zjhui@gentoo ~ $ ls -l /etc/portage/packag

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread Alecks Gates
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:36 PM, 赵佳晖 wrote: > The -i option didn't work, it also says Permission Denied > > > 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates >> >> On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM, "赵佳晖" wrote: >> > >> > In some cases , when i run somethings with "sudo" , it tells me >> > "Permission Denied" , then i should turn

Re: [gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
> Hi, > > I don't have an answer, but if you google the phrase "rcu_bh detected > stall on CPU" you can find many reports similar to yours and maybe > some information. This might be usefu lhttp://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt "RCU bugs can often be debugged with the help of

Re: [gentoo-user] unstoppable, undeciperable kernel call trace in log

2012-06-30 Thread Maxim Wexler
This is weird syzygy@lumby ~ $ grep DEBUG_FS /usr/src/linux/.config # CONFIG_DEBUG_FS is not set But the entry in menuconfig ->kernel hacking looks like this:' -*- Debug Filesystem', and can't be changed. Not '[*]' which is changeable with the spacebar, but '-*-' which is not. According to it

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with sudo

2012-06-30 Thread 赵佳晖
hmm...yes , i want to do it in one command line.. 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates > On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:36 PM, 赵佳晖 wrote: > > The -i option didn't work, it also says Permission Denied > > > > > > 2012/7/1 Alecks Gates > >> > >> On Jun 30, 2012 12:28 PM, "赵佳晖" wrote: > >> > > >> > In some cases ,