2012/5/29 Michael Mol
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >
> > On May 29, 2012 4:15 AM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 2012-05-28 22:54, schrieb Sascha Cunz:
> >> > On Monday, 28. May 2012 22:04:30 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> >> >> As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for
>> >> I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips
>> >> regarding the management of one or more programmers working on
>> >> various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures
>> >> a newbie manager should follow?
>> >
>> > You can get away with almost anything exc
On 28/05/12 23:04, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for ~amd64 now ...
anyone recompiled system or world with it already?
More advantages or disadvantages?
Since you didn't mention any specific workloads (like audio or video
compression), I assume you're a typical desktop u
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>
> As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for ~amd64 now ...
>
> anyone recompiled system or world with it already?
>
> More advantages or disadvantages?
>
> Thanks, Stefan
>
If you're a C++ developer, gcc 4.7 has more c++11 support, the most
important
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On 28.05.2012 22:04, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
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> As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for ~amd64 now ...
>
> anyone recompiled system or world with it already?
>
> More advantages or disadvantages?
>
> Thanks, Stefan
>
Hi,
as far as I can tell it works mos
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:49 PM, W.Kenworthy wrote:
> ram usage just before failure? - do you have enough, and enough disk
> space?
>
This are idle numbers:
localhost ~ # free -m
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 1890420 1469
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> What's your CFLAGS?
>
cat /etc/make.conf
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
# WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly.
# Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml befo
Hi,
I found the build error was related to openmp use flag being "on".
Have *no* idea why this enabled (is it default?).
Anyway, disabling it and re-emerging gcc 4.7 now fails at some
other point related to g++.
Dam'it
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 28/05/12 23:04, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>
>>
>> As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for ~amd64 now ...
>>
>> anyone recompiled system or world with it already?
>>
>> More advantages or disadvantages?
>
>
> Since you didn't mention any specific
Am 29.05.2012 11:42, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
> On 28/05/12 23:04, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>
>> As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for ~amd64 now ...
>>
>> anyone recompiled system or world with it already?
>>
>> More advantages or disadvantages?
>
> Since you didn't mention any specific workloads (like
On 05/28/2012 01:04 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>
> As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for ~amd64 now ...
Cool. I hadn't noticed it yet.
> anyone recompiled system or world with it already?
>
> More advantages or disadvantages?
Maybe a year ago I started having problems building virtualbox on my
older
Am 29.05.2012 13:35, schrieb Ezequiel Garcia:
> Have anyone tried to compile linux kernels with gcc 4.7?
> Is it faster / smarter ?
> Does it shows more warnings or produce faster / smaller code or something ?
Compiled gentoo-sources-3.4.0 on ~amd64 with gcc 4.7.0.
Works.
Did no benchmarks, noth
On Tue, 29 May 2012 01:34:52 -0700
Grant wrote:
> > All these things class as interference. Managers and owners who do
> > this have miles of justifiable reasons for doing so, but it's
> > always hogwash
> > - they interfere, plain and simple.
>
> This is really interesting to me. Is there a
I found something strange.
What should I have in /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu?
Currently:
$ ls
bin binutils-bin gcc-bin lib
I may be missing sys-include dir? any of you have it?
Perhaps I messed up stuff when playing with crossdev, and friends ;)
On May 29, 2012 3:39 PM, "Grant" wrote:
>
> >> >> I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips
> >> >> regarding the management of one or more programmers working on
> >> >> various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures
> >> >> a newbie manager should follow?
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:30 AM, microcai wrote:
> 2012/5/29 Michael Mol
[snip]
>> I'm mostly looking forward to Bulldozer support and RDRAND.
>>
>
> LOL I thought no one buys it
The average decent-quality AMD-supporting motherboard that supports
the level of contemporary features I want cost
> Hi,
>
> as far as I can tell it works mostly. There are some packages which
> seem to break:
>
> - - firefox and thunderbird, if I remember correctly
looks like that's fixed, from the firefox ChangeLog
28 May 2012; firefox-12.0-r1.ebuild:
Finish adding support for gcc-4.7, bug #410557
and
Hi all :)
New to this mailing list. I'm installing Gentoo and when I run
revdep-rebuild I get the following error
# revdep-rebuild
* Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild
gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:space:]]/
gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:spa
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Grant wrote:
>>> >> I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips
>>> >> regarding the management of one or more programmers working on
>>> >> various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures
>>> >> a newbie manager should follow?
On 05/29/12 09:58, Michael Mol wrote:
>
> I'd probably suggest reading The Mythical Man-Month.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month
>
>
As long as we're suggesting books, this is one of my favorites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peopleware:_Productive_Projects_and_Teams
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
> I found something strange.
> What should I have in /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu?
>
> Currently:
> $ ls
> bin binutils-bin gcc-bin lib
>
> I may be missing sys-include dir? any of you have it?
>
> Perhaps I messed up stuff when playing with cro
Ezequiel Garcia writes:
> I found something strange.
> What should I have in /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu?
>
> Currently:
> $ ls
> bin binutils-bin gcc-bin lib
Same here on ~amd64, except for an additional i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
directory, containing broken symlinks only, which belongs to no packag
On 05/29/12 06:26, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote:
> - hardened-sources: the neccessary gcc-plugins don't work because they
> can't find the right symbols because gcc-4.7 is normally compiled with
> g++ which mangles the symbols. Don't know how to work around that,
> though it seems to be possible to
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:34:07 +0200
Rafa Griman wrote:
> Hi all :)
>
> New to this mailing list. I'm installing Gentoo and when I run
> revdep-rebuild I get the following error
>
> # revdep-rebuild
> * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild
> gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or
On Tue, 29 May 2012 09:58:00 -0400
Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Grant wrote:
> >>> >> I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips
> >>> >> regarding the management of one or more programmers working on
> >>> >> various small web projects? Maybe workfl
Hi :)
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:34:07 +0200
> Rafa Griman wrote:
>
>> Hi all :)
>>
>> New to this mailing list. I'm installing Gentoo and when I run
>> revdep-rebuild I get the following error
>>
>> # revdep-rebuild
>> * Configuring search en
Am Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012, 08:58:52 schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:30 AM, microcai
wrote:
> > 2012/5/29 Michael Mol
>
> [snip]
>
> >> I'm mostly looking forward to Bulldozer support and RDRAND.
> >
> > LOL I thought no one buys it
>
> The average decent-quality AMD-supporti
On Tue, 29 May 2012, Rafa Griman wrote:
gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:space:]]/
Your gawk is broken. This happens if you emerged gawk with
current gcc and aggressive FLAGS like -DNDEBUG or -flto.
Not sure whether it is a bug of gawk or gcc.
Grant gmail.com> writes:
> I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour,
> or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from
> a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if
> there are benefits to hiring a really good company.
O
> Everything I know about dealing with technical people is from the
> school of hard knocks :-)
And class is definitely in session! Thanks to all for your guidance with this.
> I don't think it's something that can be taught or
> properly described adequately. But there are some obvious concepts
On Tue, 29 May 2012 10:51:13 -0700
Grant wrote:
> > Oh , one last thing: despite all appearances to the contrary, most
> > people out there can be trusted to do the right thing as far as they
> > are able, and do want to do a good job. Don't let occasional lapses
> > cloud your view of this. Ever
Hey !!
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
[...]
> And some basic info:
> Post the entire content of /etc/make.conf and the output of "emerge
> --info"
OK, back again. Here goes:
# emerge --info
Portage 2.1.10.49 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.5.3, glibc-2.14.1-r3,
3.2.12-g
Hi Vaeth :)
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Vaeth
wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012, Rafa Griman wrote:
>>
>> gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:space:]]/
>
>
> Your gawk is broken. This happens if you emerged gawk with
> current gcc and aggressive FLAGS like -DNDEBUG or -flto.
> Not s
On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:56:07 +0200
Rafa Griman wrote:
> Hi Vaeth :)
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Vaeth
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 May 2012, Rafa Griman wrote:
> >>
> >> gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:space:]]/
> >
> >
> > Your gawk is broken. This happens if you emerged
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:56:07 +0200
> Rafa Griman wrote:
>
>> Hi Vaeth :)
>>
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Vaeth
>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 29 May 2012, Rafa Griman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:spac
Hi, all!
I found that there were some strange files or directories under root directory.
Let's
see what happened?
$ ls -a
.boot homemedia opt .pulse-cookie sbin usr
.. dev lib mntprocroot sys var
bin etc lost+found null .pulse run
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Easior wrote:
> Hi, all!
>
> I found that there were some strange files or directories under root
> directory. Let's
> see what happened?
>
> $ ls -a
> . boot home media opt .pulse-cookie sbin usr
> .. dev lib mnt proc root
On Tuesday 29 May 2012 15:37:37 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Oh, and this one is a classic too:
>
> Q: How do you get a project to be 3 years late?
> A: One day at a time.
Or: the first 50% of the project takes the first 90% of the time, and the
other 50% of the project takes the other 90% of the tim
I just upgraded to xfce4 4.10 but two program are not working:
1.) USB scanner, when I run xsane nothing is detected
"lsusb" is listed the scanner:
...
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04b8:011b Seiko Epson Corp. Perfection 2400 Photo
in /etc/sane.d/epson2.conf
# epson2.conf
# USB
usb
net autodiscovery
On 05/29/2012 06:23 PM, Joseph wrote:
> 2.) Application --> Run Program a windows pups up. When I type: nano 1.txt
>
> Nothing happens.
Please be more specific about 'nothing'. Does nano just close immediately
with no error message? Does it hang forever until you hit ^C, or what?
What do you
On 05/29/12 19:23, walt wrote:
On 05/29/2012 06:23 PM, Joseph wrote:
2.) Application --> Run Program a windows pups up. When I type: nano 1.txt
Nothing happens.
Please be more specific about 'nothing'. Does nano just close immediately
with no error message? Does it hang forever until you
On 05/29/12 19:23, Joseph wrote:
I just upgraded to xfce4 4.10 but two program are not working:
1.) USB scanner, when I run xsane nothing is detected
"lsusb" is listed the scanner:
...
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04b8:011b Seiko Epson Corp. Perfection 2400 Photo
in /etc/sane.d/epson2.conf
# epson2.
On 05/29/12 20:39, Joseph wrote:
On 05/29/12 19:23, Joseph wrote:
I just upgraded to xfce4 4.10 but two program are not working:
1.) USB scanner, when I run xsane nothing is detected
"lsusb" is listed the scanner:
...
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04b8:011b Seiko Epson Corp. Perfection 2400 Photo
in
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On 30.05.2012 05:23, Joseph wrote:
> On 05/29/12 20:39, Joseph wrote:
>> On 05/29/12 19:23, Joseph wrote:
>>> I just upgraded to xfce4 4.10 but two program are not working:
>>>
>>> 1.) USB scanner, when I run xsane nothing is detected
>>>
>>> "lsusb"
I am one of those poor saps who decided to try gnome3 and its not
pleasant at all ... its an even worse hit on productivity than early
gnome2 over 1.4 was :(
Apparently 3.2 has a weather app available, but I cant find it or how to
"turn it on" or add it to the desktop or panel. Can someone enligh
In all my years of Gentoo I've never set up fbsplash and fbcondecor,
so I finally did so on my old laptop. It all worked, pretty easy to
set up -- however, there are 2 things I have questions about:
1) I see much of OpenRC's colorful output before the fbsplash kicks
in. Is there any trick to preve
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On 30.05.2012 04:37, Joseph wrote:
> On 05/29/12 19:23, walt wrote:
>> On 05/29/2012 06:23 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> 2.) Application --> Run Program a windows pups up. When I
>>> type: nano 1.txt
>>>
>>> Nothing happens.
>>
>> Please be more specifi
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