On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:04:00 +0700
Pandu Poluan wrote:
> I am seriously thinking of splitting the storage of directories
> under /usr, e.g., /usr/portage and /usr/source actually living
> somewhere else, on different partition and different filesystem.
> Let's say something mounted on /mnt/Persis
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:41:15 +
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 12 March 2012 12:21:17 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 22:34:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > My mother swears blind I watched England win the World Cup but I
> > > don't remember (being only 1 year old at the t
On Tuesday 13 Mar 2012 05:36:38 ro...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:
> I recently decided to update my AMD64 box from 2.38 to the new 3.2 kernel.
> I used genkernel all to compile the upgraded kernel but when I go to boot
> I get the following error.
>
> >>Loading modules
> >>Determining root device
>
> !!Bl
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
> > the software, installed in /usr, which is required by those devices
> > is a configuration that causes problems in many real-world,
> > practical situations.
> >
> > Th
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:24:32AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
> Help would be appreciated.
Sorry, mdev is not for you, it looks like udev is a mandatory
dependancy for lvm2. I tried "emerge -pv lvm2" and it came back with...
waltdnes@d530 ~ $ emerge -pv lvm2
These are the packages that woul
On Mar 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
> > > the software, installed in /usr, which is required by those devices
> > > is a configuration that causes pro
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:24:32AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
Once you're back to your old setup, can you do me a favour? Please do
the following...
1) Add the line...
sys-fs/udev
to /etc/portage/package.mask.
2) Run the 2 commands
emerge -pv system > system.txt
emerge -pv world > world.t
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> On Mar 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
>> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>
>> > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initialize devices without
>> > > the software, installed in /usr, which is re
On Mar 13, 2012 2:41 PM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 13, 2012 2:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon"
wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700
> >> Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >>
> >> > > The idea of trying to launch udevd and initi
On Mar 13, 2012 2:00 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:04:00 +0700
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> > I am seriously thinking of splitting the storage of directories
> > under /usr, e.g., /usr/portage and /usr/source actually living
> > somewhere else, on different partition and diff
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
> I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
> udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
> distros. I'm giving mdev some thought here. I want /usr on LVM which
> means it has to be sepa
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> On Mar 13, 2012 2:00 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:04:00 +0700
>> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>
>> > I am seriously thinking of splitting the storage of directories
>> > under /usr, e.g., /usr/portage and /usr/source act
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:50:02PM +0100, pk wrote
> So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr
> then? Thanks for the info!
I believe that 180 or 181 is the first version that requires /usr on /
(or an initramfs or whatever). And that's why it's currently masked.
--
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote
>
>> I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace
>> udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other
>> distros. I'm giving mdev some though
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:35:33PM -0400, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote
> Unless I misunderstand you, after you issue "lilo" to write to the MBR,
> then issue:
> lilo -R experimental
>
> where experimental is the name of the kernel image you want to boot. The R
> creates a one time command which it will
On 13.03.2012 09:15, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
If I'm understanding you, you want:
fstab:
/dev/XX /mnt/p1 ...
/dev/YY /mnt/p2 ...
and then
/usr/portage -> /mnt/p1
/usr/src -> /mnt/p2
(or using bindmounting, whatever).
This makes no sense at all (at least not to me), when you can s
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:15, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> You are; but in an incredible complicated and convulted way.
>
> If I'm understanding you, you want:
>
> fstab:
> /dev/XX /mnt/p1 ...
> /dev/YY /mnt/p2 ...
>
> and then
>
> /usr/portage -> /mnt/p1
> /usr/src -> /mnt/p2
>
> (or u
Hi,
I have an annoying problem with the current version update of
cryptsetup-1.4.1. Already in the configure step emerge stops with the
error message:
...
checking for gcry_check_version in -lgcrypt... no
configure: error: Cannot find static gcrypt library
...
Actually, libgcrypt-1.4.6 is instal
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:15, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> You are; but in an incredible complicated and convulted way.
>>
>> If I'm understanding you, you want:
>>
>> fstab:
>> /dev/XX /mnt/p1 ...
>> /dev/YY /mnt/p2 ...
>>
>> an
On Mar 13, 2012 2:42 PM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:15, Canek Peláez Valdés
wrote:
> >>
> >> You are; but in an incredible complicated and convulted way.
> >>
> >> If I'm understanding you, you want:
> >>
>
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:05:59 +0700
Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2012 2:00 PM, "Alan McKinnon"
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:04:00 +0700
> > Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >
> > > I am seriously thinking of splitting the storage of directories
> > > under /usr, e.g., /usr/portage and /usr/s
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:41:15 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> I can't remember it at all, even though I was 23 or so. (Aside: my
> father used to say that football is a game, and games are what children
> play.)
Yes, but that doesn't mean no one else plays them. That's the sort of
argument that c
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:38:26 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Of course, for a normal desktop user, a separate /usr is basically
> useless.
If you need to encrypt /etc but don't want the overhead of encrypting
everything is /usr, which is basically publicly available files anyway,
separating /
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:00:08 +0700
Pandu Poluan wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:15, Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
> >
> > You are; but in an incredible complicated and convulted way.
> >
> > If I'm understanding you, you want:
> >
> > fstab:
> > /dev/XX /mnt/p1 ...
> > /dev/YY /mnt/p2
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:23:28PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
>I'm trying to figure out how my Asus laptop maps function key
> events. This is being driven by an emerge message telling me that the
> acpi4asus package is being obsoleted and removed in 30 days and
> replaced by an in-kernel
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:23:49AM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:
> José Romildo Malaquias writes:
>
> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 07:36:07PM +0100, YoYo Siska wrote:
>
> > > mke2fs -f -b1024 -i2048 /usr/img_portage
> >
> > The -f option from mke2fs is to specify a fragment size and expects an
> > ar
Hello, Walter.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:14:55AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:24:32AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
> Sorry, mdev is not for you, it looks like udev is a mandatory
> dependancy for lvm2. I tried "emerge -pv lvm2" and it came back with...
> waltdnes@d53
On March 13, 2012 at 3:10 AM Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 Mar 2012 05:36:38 ro...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:
> > I recently decided to update my AMD64 box from 2.38 to the new 3.2
kernel.
> > I used genkernel all to compile the upgraded kernel but when I go to
boot
> > I get the following error.
> >
>
On 03/11/2012 02:29 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 11.03.2012 16:38, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have not looked at encryption before and find myself in a situation
>> that I have to encrypt my hard drive. I keep /, /boot, and swap outside
>> LVM, everything else is under LVM.
Hi, Walter.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:33:06AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:24:32AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
> Once you're back to your old setup, can you do me a favour? Please do
> the following...
> 1) Add the line...
> sys-fs/udev
> to /etc/portage/package.m
On March 13, 2012 at 1:36 AM ro...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:
> I recently decided to update my AMD64 box from 2.38 to the new 3.2
kernel.
> I used genkernel all to compile the upgraded kernel but when I go to boot
> I get the following error.
>
> >>Loading modules
> >>Determining root device
> !!Block
On Tuesday 13 March 2012 11:01:29 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:41:15 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I can't remember it at all, even though I was 23 or so. (Aside: my
> > father used to say that football is a game, and games are what
> > children play.)
>
> Yes, but that doesn't
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:53:29 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> As Alan said in other thread, it can be "fixed" (if you think is not
> right) for some very specific cases. Alan mentioned servers, really
> simple desktops with simple hotplug devices, and embedded systems. For
> mdev to "fix" the s
On Mar 13, 2012 10:39 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:53:29 -0600
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> > As Alan said in other thread, it can be "fixed" (if you think is not
> > right) for some very specific cases. Alan mentioned servers, really
> > simple desktops with simple h
Am 13.03.2012 12:55, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
> On 03/11/2012 02:29 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
>> Am 11.03.2012 16:38, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have not looked at encryption before and find myself in a situation
>>> that I have to encrypt my hard drive. I keep /, /boot,
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 13.03.2012 12:55, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
>> On 03/11/2012 02:29 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
>>> Am 11.03.2012 16:38, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
Hello,
I have not looked at encryption before and find myself in a si
Am 13.03.2012 17:26, schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Florian Philipp
> wrote:
>> Am 13.03.2012 12:55, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
>>> On 03/11/2012 02:29 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 11.03.2012 16:38, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have n
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:49:40 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Besides, I've already lost a poorly cooled HDD on a benchmark.
Better than losing it on real data.
--
Neil Bothwick
Why do they call it a TV set when you only get one?
signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 13.03.2012 17:26, schrieb Michael Mol:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Florian Philipp
>> wrote:
>>> Am 13.03.2012 12:55, schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
On 03/11/2012 02:29 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 11.03.2012 16:38, s
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:54:30 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 13/03/12 00:34, »Q« wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:29:10 +0200
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone care to offer an opinion on what it will take to get
> >> PROVIDES support in portage?
> >
> > IMO, it would take virtua
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:11:47PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
> > Since I am planning to encrypt only home/ under LVM control, what kind
> > of overhead should I expect?
>
> What do you mean with overhead? CPU utilization? In that case the
> overhead is minimal, especially when you run a 64-bi
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:04:00PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote
> I am seriously thinking of splitting the storage of directories under /usr,
> e.g., /usr/portage and /usr/source actually living somewhere else, on
> different partition and different filesystem. Let's say something mounted
> on /mnt/Pe
Am 13.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:11:47PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
>
>>> Since I am planning to encrypt only home/ under LVM control, what kind
>>> of overhead should I expect?
>>
>> What do you mean with overhead? CPU utilization? In that case the
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 13.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:11:47PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
>>
Since I am planning to encrypt only home/ under LVM control, what kind
of overhead should I expect?
>>>
>>> Wh
On 2012-03-13 08:13, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> I've also thought about this and I also want to ask why?
Hm... me too? :-)
> I stopped using a separate /usr on my workstations a long time ago when
> I realized it was pointless. The days of 5M hard disks when the entire
Ok, you realized it was point
Hello,
i try to install avidemux and so i give emerge avidemux. But at
media-libs/aften-0.0.8 break emerge with the message:
cmake: error while loading shared libraries: libnettle.so.3:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
But the libnettle.so.3 is present on my system:
Am 13.03.2012 19:18, schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Florian Philipp
> wrote:
>> Am 13.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:11:47PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
>>>
> Since I am planning to encrypt only home/ under LVM control, wha
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:57 PM, siefke_lis...@web.de
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i try to install avidemux and so i give emerge avidemux. But at
> media-libs/aften-0.0.8 break emerge with the message:
>
>
> cmake: error while loading shared libraries: libnettle.so.3:
> cannot open shared object file: N
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 01:05:34PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
> I also did "2> {system,world}.err". system.err was empty. I've included
> world.err in the enclosed tarball.
From your error listing, it looks like lvm2, kde, and gnome (including
the XFCE subset) require udev. Ouch.
--
Walte
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:57 AM, siefke_lis...@web.de
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i try to install avidemux and so i give emerge avidemux. But at
> media-libs/aften-0.0.8 break emerge with the message:
>
>
> cmake: error while loading shared libraries: libnettle.so.3:
> cannot open shared object file: N
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:57 PM, siefke_lis...@web.de
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i try to install avidemux and so i give emerge avidemux. But at
> media-libs/aften-0.0.8 break emerge with the message:
>
>
> cmake: error while loading shared libraries: libnettle.so.3:
> cannot open shared object file: No
On 13 March 2012, at 18:18, Michael Mol wrote:
> ...
>> So I assume the i586
>> version is better for you --- unless GCC suddenly got a lot better at
>> optimizing code.
>
> Since when, exactly? GCC isn't the best compiler at optimization, but
> I fully expect current versions to produce better c
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 13.03.2012 19:18, schrieb Michael Mol:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Florian Philipp
>> wrote:
>>> Am 13.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:11:47PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
>>
Am 13.03.2012 19:58, schrieb Florian Philipp:
> Am 13.03.2012 19:18, schrieb Michael Mol:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Florian Philipp
>> wrote:
>>> Am 13.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:11:47PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
>> Since I am
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>
> I don't know a whole lot about multilib, but I believe /usr/lib is a
> 32-bit library folder. Perhaps avidemux is looking for a 64-bit
> version?
>
It's a sim link here:
c2stable ~ # ls -l /usr/lib
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Apr 13 2010 /u
Am 13.03.2012 20:13, schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Florian Philipp
> wrote:
>> Am 13.03.2012 19:18, schrieb Michael Mol:
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Florian Philipp
>>> wrote:
Am 13.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at
On 03/13/2012 10:00 AM, Uwe Scholz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an annoying problem with the current version update of
> cryptsetup-1.4.1. Already in the configure step emerge stops with the
> error message:
>
> ...
> checking for gcry_check_version in -lgcrypt... no
> configure: error: Cannot find st
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Stroller
wrote:
>
> On 13 March 2012, at 18:18, Michael Mol wrote:
>> ...
>>> So I assume the i586
>>> version is better for you --- unless GCC suddenly got a lot better at
>>> optimizing code.
>>
>> Since when, exactly? GCC isn't the best compiler at optimization,
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:05:22 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote:
> First, was the system up-to-date prior to trying to install your new
> program?
I has yesterday make emerge world.
> emerge -pvDuN @world
>
> If not get it up-to-date first.
Okay this i use in future.
> Once up-to-date, and still befor
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 13.03.2012 20:13, schrieb Michael Mol:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Florian Philipp
>> wrote:
>>> Am 13.03.2012 19:18, schrieb Michael Mol:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Florian Philipp
wrote:
> Am 13.03.2012
Hello, Walter,
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:00:52PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 01:05:34PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
> > I also did "2> {system,world}.err". system.err was empty. I've included
> > world.err in the enclosed tarball.
> From your error listing, it looks
Am 13.03.2012 20:07, schrieb Stroller:
>
> On 13 March 2012, at 18:18, Michael Mol wrote:
>> ...
>>> So I assume the i586 version is better for you --- unless GCC
>>> suddenly got a lot better at optimizing code.
>>
>> Since when, exactly? GCC isn't the best compiler at optimization,
>> but I ful
Am 13.03.2012 20:38, schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Stroller
> wrote:
>>
>> On 13 March 2012, at 18:18, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> ...
So I assume the i586 version is better for you --- unless GCC
suddenly got a lot better at optimizing code.
>>>
>>> Since when, e
>
> This thread is becoming ridiculously long. Just as a last side-note:
>
> One of the primary reasons that the IA64 architecture failed was that it
> relied on the compiler to optimize the code in order to exploit the
> massive instruction-level parallelism the CPU offered. Compilers never
> be
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hello, Walter,
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:00:52PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 01:05:34PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote
>
>> > I also did "2> {system,world}.err". system.err was empty. I've included
>> > world.err
This revision includes some checking to see if your system can run
without udev. In general, if you use any of...
* GNOME
* KDE
* XFCE
* lvm2
... you probably need udev, so mdev is not for you. I've also found one
situation where I need to take one extra step to run without udev. I
have a lapt
On March 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
wrote:
>
> "Fringe" programs will not require udev, or it will be optional; but
> the moment a "fringe" program reaches critical mass to become
> "maistream", the probability of it needing udev (directly or
> indirectly) will increase.
>
> I'm
Am 12.03.2012 12:24, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
>
> I only recently emerged the gnome tracker and try to index my
> thunderbird emails.
>
> tracker-control -l shows that the "email"-miner is/seems disabled.
>
> I used USE=thunderbird for app-misc/tracker and I see the addon
> "Trackerbird" wi
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 07:58:55PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
> >> From what I can see in the kernel sources, there is a generic AES
> >> implementation using nothing but portable C code and then there is
> >> "aes-i586" assembler code with "aes_glue" C code.
> >
> >> So I assume the i586
> >>
Hello, Canek,
I thought you'd be replying to me here. :-)
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 02:27:25PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Hello, Walter,
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:00:52PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
wrote:
>
>
>
> On March 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Fringe" programs will not require udev, or it will be optional; but
>> the moment a "fringe" program reaches critical mass to become
>> "maistream", the probabilit
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:07:37 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> But I really meant what functionality udev has that mdev lacks. For
> example, mdev this morning recognised my USB stick being inserted, and
> created /dev/sdc for it.
udev does a *lot* more than that, for example the persistent naming
Hi Alan!
you were right. It is masked! I figured out that "autounmask" is not in
portage, because of that I believe that this might not be the only
package that is masked
tamer@office ~ $ emerge -pv =gnome-3.2.1
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies
On March 13, 2012 at 5:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On March 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Fringe" programs will not require udev, or it will be optional; but
> >> the mom
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
wrote:
>
>
>
> On March 13, 2012 at 5:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On March 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Fring
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:35:05 -0400 (EDT)
"Bruce Hill, Jr." wrote:
>
>
>
> On March 13, 2012 at 5:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On March 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
> > > wrote:
>
Let's deal with your biggest mistake first. You are running a stable
system (you have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64" in make,conf) but you want to
install gnome-3.
Now that is highly unlikely to work for a very long time yet as gnome-3
is considered nowhere near stable enough yet to be unmasked. Portage
Anyone else seeing this?
No bugreport yet, and I rebuilt and revdeped
Stefan
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:13:33 +0100
"Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote:
>
> Anyone else seeing this?
>
> No bugreport yet, and I rebuilt and revdeped
>
> Stefan
>
I'm thinking you hit send before typing up the bit where you say what
the issue is you are having.
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Hello, Neil.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:30PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:07:37 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > But I really meant what functionality udev has that mdev lacks. For
> > example, mdev this morning recognised my USB stick being inserted, and
> > created /
On March 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
wrote:
> Just what I was saying: I said (right there) "the probability of it
> needing udev (directly or indirectly) will increase." I did not say it
> would *need* udev for sure; just that the probability of it needing
> udev would increase.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hello, Neil.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:30PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:07:37 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
>> > But I really meant what functionality udev has that mdev lacks. For
>> > example, mdev this
On March 13, 2012 at 6:13 PM "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote:
>
> Anyone else seeing this?
>
> No bugreport yet, and I rebuilt and revdeped
>
> Stefan
>
There is a stabilization request for it:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407559
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
wrote:
>
>
>
> On March 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés"
> wrote:
>
>
>> Just what I was saying: I said (right there) "the probability of it
>> needing udev (directly or indirectly) will increase." I did not say it
>> would *need* udev for
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:20:19 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > udev does a *lot* more than that, for example the persistent naming of
> > network interfaces. More significantly, it can run programs based on
> > device rules.
>
> This is where I start getting unhappy. Is there any need for this
>
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:38:08PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Hello, Neil.
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:30PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:07:37 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> >> > But I really mea
Thank you very much Alan!
I keep the finger away of it. And continue running Gnome2. Not important
for me updating the wm to gnome3.
It's a developer machine. :-)
Tamer
Am 13.03.2012 23:10, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> Let's deal with your biggest mistake first. You are running a stable
> system (
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:03:50PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:20:19 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > > udev does a *lot* more than that, for example the persistent naming of
> > > network interfaces. More significantly, it can run programs based on
> > > device rules.
>
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:38:08PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> > Hello, Neil.
>
>> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:33:30PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012
On Mar 14, 2012 7:10 AM, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote:
>
>8 snippage
> So, you need something to handle device files on /dev, so you don't
> need every possible device file for every possible piece of hardware.
> But then you want to handle the same device with the same device name,
> so you
I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
mandated by udev and am having some issues.
I usually manually compile my kernels, use tuxonice and dont use an
initrd/initramfs.
As ToI is not available for the latest kernels, I updated openrc and
installed genkernel but then
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:13 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
> mandated by udev and am having some issues.
>
> I usually manually compile my kernels, use tuxonice and dont use an
> initrd/initramfs.
>
> As ToI is not available for
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
> mandated by udev and am having some issues.
>
> I usually manually compile my kernels, use tuxonice and dont use an
> initrd/initramfs.
>
> As ToI is not available
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:49 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
> > mandated by udev and am having some issues.
> >
> > I usually manually compile my kernels, use tuxon
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:20 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:49 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 11:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
>> > I am trying to get my system(s) ready for the new (read crappy) way
>> > mandated by udev and am having some
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