Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 13.02.2012 16:31, schrieb Grant Edwards: > On 2012-02-13, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 02/13/12 05:49, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>> >>> I've written a small Python program which outputs the file names in >>> i-node order. If this is fed into tar or cpio nearly no seeks are >>> required during c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Florian Philipp wrote: > > Even if the i-nodes are sequential on-disk, there's no reason to think > > that the data blocks associated with the inodes are in any particular > > order with respect to the i-nodes themselves. > > You could probably find the intended order by using debugfs (at least >

[gentoo-user] Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread LK
Hi, How do i get rid of that? It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. PS: How do i deamonize a service on startup? DHCPCD for example? Thanks in advance!

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 14/02/12 12:48, LK wrote: Hi, How do i get rid of that? It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. If you boot with "acpi=off", does the problem go away? What kernel version are you using? PS: How do i deamonize a service on startup? DHCPCD for example? It has a service. You add i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 13:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 14/02/12 12:48, LK wrote: >> >> How do i get rid of that? >> It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. > If you boot with "acpi=off", does the problem go away? What kernel version > are you using? No it does not. After the root=/dev/sda5, in g

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 14/02/12 14:15, LK wrote: On 120214, at 13:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 14/02/12 12:48, LK wrote: How do i get rid of that? It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. If you boot with "acpi=off", does the problem go away? What kernel version are you using? No it does not. After the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Mick
On 13 February 2012 22:11, Dale wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>  > This works because there are two decoupled processes, shared memory between  > them and the fact that star reads names from directories in one big chunk.  > Honestl

[gentoo-user] Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I tried to compile hydrogen and it fails with this: /root>emerge hydrogen Calculating dependencies... done! >>> Verifying ebuild manifests >>> Emerging (1 of 1) media-sound/hydrogen-0.9.5 * hydrogen-0.9.5.tar.gz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:58:49 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > I tried to compile hydrogen and it fails with this: > > > /root>emerge hydrogen > Calculating dependencies... done! > > >>> Verifying ebuild manifests > > >>> Emerging (1 of 1) media-sound/hydrogen-0.9.5 > * hydrogen

[gentoo-user] Re: Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:58:49 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > How can I circumvent the problem? I can't vouch for it, but there's a patch attached to the bug.

[gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread james
Googling around, I get the impression that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that correct? In portage I see grub-static (GRUB Legacy boot loader) with version numbers that coincide with "grub" (grub2 ?). If grub2 has replaced "grub-1" what (gentoo) version number did grub2 first take take? What was the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.02.2012 10:57, schrieb Joerg Schilling: > Florian Philipp wrote: > >>> Even if the i-nodes are sequential on-disk, there's no reason to think >>> that the data blocks associated with the inodes are in any particular >>> order with respect to the i-nodes themselves. >> >> You could probably

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.02.2012 18:36, schrieb james: > Googling around, I get the impression > that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that > correct? > > In portage I see grub-static > (GRUB Legacy boot loader) > with version numbers that coincide with > "grub" (grub2 ?). > > If grub2 has replaced "grub-1" what (gentoo)

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Stefano Crocco
Il giorno Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:36:28 + (UTC) james ha scritto: > Googling around, I get the impression > that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that > correct? > > In portage I see grub-static > (GRUB Legacy boot loader) > with version numbers that coincide with > "grub" (grub2 ?). > > If grub2 has r

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 18:53, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 14.02.2012 18:36, schrieb james: >> Googling around, I get the impression >> that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that >> correct? >> [...] > Because it is still in development hell, it has > not reached version 2.00. BTW: So is grub0 still supported by g

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: > BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? > Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is still the default in Gentoo. In order to use GRUB 2 (that is, GRUB version 1.99 in Portage) yo

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: > On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: >> BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? >> Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? > GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is still the default in > Gentoo. In order to u

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM, "LK" wrote: > > > On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: > > On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: > >> BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? > >> Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? > > GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.x

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 01:40 PM, LK wrote: > > On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: >> On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: >>> BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? >>> Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? >> GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is sti

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:52 PM, m...@trausch.us wrote: > On 02/14/2012 01:40 PM, LK wrote: >> >> On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: >>> On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? Does that matter(it is boot, no netwo

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Andrea Conti
> PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you > say how? Remove or comment out any "splashimage" directives from the config file. *** Re grub2: as long as grub0 works, I really don't care if grub2 is better, cleaner, shinier, more modern or anything else. I don't need a fr

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 20:29, Andrea Conti wrote: >> PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you >> say how? > Remove or comment out any "splashimage" directives from the config file. I meant in GRUB2. I have another box with linux mint using GRUB2, and splash backgrounds in GRUB / l

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Cook
You can't edit /etc/default/grub to customize how grub-mkconfig generates grub.cfg. Mint probably has update-grub like Ubuntu does which just allows you to use that command instead of grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg On Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM, "LK" wrote: > > On 120214, at 20:29, Andrea Conti

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread Alex Schuster
LK writes: > On 120214, at 20:29, Andrea Conti wrote: > >> PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you > >> say how? > > Remove or comment out any "splashimage" directives from the config > > file. > I meant in GRUB2. I have another box with linux mint using GRUB2, and > spla

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > A detailed elaboration would be nice. > > A contrasting migration guide, complete with the how's, where's and > why's would be awesome. (Once one's invested in understanding a tool, > a 1-2-3-itsmagic walkthrough is very discomforting.) While there are

[gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Grant
Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:29 PM, Andrea Conti wrote: > Re grub2: as long as grub0 works, I really don't care if grub2 is > better, cleaner, shinier, more modern or anything else. > > I don't need a freakin' whole OS to boot linux, and having a > configuration that is so convoluted that it *has to* be gener

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:35 PM, m...@trausch.us wrote: > On 02/14/2012 02:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> A detailed elaboration would be nice. >> >> A contrasting migration guide, complete with the how's, where's and >> why's would be awesome. (Once one's invested in understanding a tool, >> a 1-2-

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:59 PM, Michael Cook wrote: > You can't edit /etc/default/grub to customize how grub-mkconfig > generates grub.cfg. Mint probably has update-grub like Ubuntu does which > just allows you to use that command instead of grub2-mkconfig -o > /boot/grub/grub.cfg grub-mkconfig (grub2-mkc

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:53 PM, LK wrote: > I meant in GRUB2. I have another box with linux mint using GRUB2, and > splash backgrounds in GRUB / lowlevel menus or anywhere ("branding") > reminds me of commercialism like Apple putting their logo onto every > product. (They are good, tho, the apple logo is s

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Grant wrote: > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? I mostly use Chromium. IIRC, there's also Galeon. You'd have to look at the current state of the ebuild to see how lit

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 03:41 PM, Grant wrote: > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? I've used Chromium in the past. It supports the same plugins that Firefox does. There is also Epiphany, the GNOME browser, whi

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 21:41, Grant wrote: > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? I guess the default XFCE4 browser supports flash. it is lightweight. It came once with ubuntu xfce and i liked it. (that to be a f

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? Maybe you like www-client/midori: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_%28web_browser%29 Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 21:42, m...@trausch.us wrote: > On 02/14/2012 02:29 PM, Andrea Conti wrote: >> Re grub2: as long as grub0 works, I really don't care if grub2 is >> better, cleaner, shinier, more modern or anything else. >> >> I don't need a freakin' whole OS to boot linux, and having a >> configur

[gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread James
Florian Philipp binarywings.net> writes: > sys-boot/grub has two slots. The default slot 0 with version numbers > around 0.92-0.97 is grub-1 (or grub legacy). Slot 2 with version numbers > around 1.99 is grub-2. Because it is still in development hell, it has > not reached version 2.00. OK, thi

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
What do you think of putting this conversation onto some website, as tutorial or clarification =P ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Feb 14, 2012 3:42 PM, "Grant" wrote: > > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? > > - Grant > Midori is quite minimal and has flash support last I checked. It's very lightweight on the features, which c

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant wrote: > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? Chromium/Chrome, Opera, Konqueror... flash works in all of those and are all fast and minimalistic compared to Firefox

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:58 PM, LK wrote: > What do you think of putting this conversation onto some website, as tutorial > or clarification =P ? http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_ee5c878773ac6ca9f49a33191654e3db.xml -- :wq

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM, "Paul Hartman" wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant wrote: > > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > > portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? > > Chromium/Chrome, Opera, Konqueror... flash works in all of

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Alecks Gates wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM, "Paul Hartman" > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant wrote: >> > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in >> > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Jean-Christophe Bach
* Grant [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]: > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? > > - Grant Hi, You may want to try Luakit which is light and highly configurable by Lua scripts. I think it is a gread br

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:57:03 +0100, LK wrote: > > I'm not sure how that translates to being more complex. If you are > > averse to change, just say so and be done with it. Is it different? > > Oh, yes, absolutely. It couldn't be better if it were the same, could > > it? ;-) > First, why do w

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:29:26 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: > I don't need a freakin' whole OS to boot linux, and having a > configuration that is so convoluted that it *has to* be generated by > running a set of scripts makes no sense at all. No it doesn't. so thankfully, outside of your FUD, this i

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Claudio Roberto França Pereira
> Grant [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]: > > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? > > - Grant Check Vimperator for Firefox, and also uzbl (uzbl-browser or uzbl-tabbed).

[gentoo-user] Running a USB graphics cards with Linux?

2012-02-14 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello, I would love to use two external displays with my notebook. I have seen USB graphics cards on the net and was wondering if anyone around here has tried to run such a thing with Linux. If it worked for you I'd be interested in as many details as you are willing to share. Thanks in advanc

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 03:57 PM, LK wrote: > First, why do we need that much code? First, are you talking about source or binary code? If you're talking about source code, then realize this: Not all that source is even compiled on your system. As to the source that *is* compiled on your system, there is

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM, m...@trausch.us wrote: > It also supports partition schemes other than MBR, which is useful > since I use GPT on my systems. FYI Gentoo's GRUB 0.9x in portage has supported GPT for at least 2 or 3 years now. I'm using it with GPT partitions and my systems all boo

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 06:47 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > FYI Gentoo's GRUB 0.9x in portage has supported GPT for at least 2 or > 3 years now. I'm using it with GPT partitions and my systems all boot. > :) Not all distributions do. I have been running GPT for quite some time, while I only switched to Gentoo

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
(Sorry that the threading is broken, I was looking at this in the list archive and don't still have the mails from earlier, which I probably mass-deleted...) This sounds suspiciously like an error loading firmware, which can happen when you have a video adapter or WiFi adapter that needs firmware,

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:47:51PM -0200, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: > > Grant [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]: > > > > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in > > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? > > > > - Grant > > Check Vimperato

[gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread Dale
Howdy, On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: x11-base/xorg-server:0 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with

Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:37:05PM -0600, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: > > WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: > > x11-base/xorg-server:0 > > (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild schedu

Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread Willie Matthews
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:37:05 -0600 Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: > > WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency > conflict: > > x11-base/xorg-server:0 > > (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled

Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 08:37 PM, Dale wrote: > On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: > > WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: > > x11-base/xorg-server:0 > > (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > conflicts with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread meino . cramer
»Q« [12-02-14 18:12]: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:58:49 +0100 > meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > How can I circumvent the problem? > > I can't vouch for it, but there's a patch attached to the bug. > > > > Hi, thank you for your help and the pa