In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
>
> Some people, such as myself, use kernel sources outside of portage (I
> follow a git repo) and do so as a non-root user. In this case the
> kernel tree is not owned by root and the config/compile is easily done
> as a non-root user.
>
> If you are super-paranoi
> "DL libraries aren't really a different kind of library format (both
> static and shared libraries can be used as DL libraries);"
Library archives (.a) and shared objects (.so) differ in several ways.
Roughly speaking:
>From a file format perspective, .a files are simple collections (man ar)
of
On 09/11/2010 12:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
synce few days, I have a message of portage suggestiung me to use the "static-
libs" USE flag for media-libs/jpeg-6b.
What may be the consequence ? Please be gentle with explaining this sorte of
things, as I have not the knowledges to understand the
Le Saturday 11 September 2010 22:52:09, walt a écrit :
> On 09/11/2010 02:13 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > synce few days, I have a message of portage suggestiung me to use the
> > "static- libs" USE flag for media-libs/jpeg-6b.
> >
> > What may be the consequence ? Please be gentle with explaini
On Sunday 12 September 2010 01:15:56 walt wrote:
> On 09/11/2010 11:24 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:50:04 Mick wrote:
> >> Deselect that which is deprecated and will be removed soon
> >
> > I hope it won't. I have one box whose drives the new drivers cannot
> > de
On Sunday 12 September 2010 00:15:34 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> But since you're not convinced, now it would be nice, for my own
> education, and perhaps someone else's, that you elaborated a bit
> more. What exactly do you find non convincing in that usage of the
> adjective? How would you express th
Yesterday my ~x86 Gentoo box got KDE upgraded to 4.5.1 and today portage want
to downgrade it again to 4.4.5 and I can not figure out why.
My "emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use world --pretend"
gives a lot of output for KDE-components like this:
> You can't link dynamically against a library archive, so all DL code on
Don't you contradict
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/introduction.html with
this?
Practically you never do. But could, if you really wanted?
AFAIK you need PIC only to share libs in memory. The rest is already
On Sunday 12 September 2010 12.11:14 Dan Johansson wrote:
> Yesterday my ~x86 Gentoo box got KDE upgraded to 4.5.1 and today portage
> want to downgrade it again to 4.4.5 and I can not figure out why.
>
> My "emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use world
> --pretend" gives a lot o
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:16:31 +0100 Peter Humphrey
wrote:
> On Sunday 12 September 2010 00:15:34 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
>
> > But since you're not convinced, now it would be nice, for my own
> > education, and perhaps someone else's, that you elaborated a bit
> > more. What exactly do you find non
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes:
> I also cannot evaluate the real impact the position of the /-partition
> on the harddisk has on system performance. I read about it years ago
> and since than I always put the partitions always in the sequence of
> "boot","swap","root","home" onto the harddisks. May b
Dan Johansson writes:
> On Sunday 12 September 2010 12.11:14 Dan Johansson wrote:
>> Yesterday my ~x86 Gentoo box got KDE upgraded to 4.5.1 and today portage
>> want to downgrade it again to 4.4.5 and I can not figure out why.
>>
>> My "emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use wo
Hi,
currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system.
I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system.
There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp).
After several steps I chrooted into the new environment and ...
no net anymore. eth0 was up (ifconfig) but
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM, wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system.
>
> I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system.
> There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp).
>
> After several steps I chrooted into the new environ
On Sunday 12 September 2010 16:26:23 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system.
>
> I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system.
> There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp).
>
> After several steps I chroot
On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 16:26 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system.
> There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp).
>
> After several steps I chrooted into the new environment and ...
> no net anymore. eth0 was up (ifconfi
Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr:
> Selon Mick :
>
> > On Saturday 11 September 2010 17:01:29 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:
> > > Selon Stéphane Guedon :
> > > > Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free.fr a écrit
> :
> > > > > Selon Stroller :
> > > > > > On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:
J. Roeleveld [10-09-12 18:25]:
> On Sunday 12 September 2010 16:26:23 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system.
> >
> > I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system.
> > There was a net-connection without any problems (using DS
> I agree there's no point in using sudo, but what's the problem? You
> don't need to edit the kernel sources merely to build a new kernel. You
> can build your kernel outside the tree using for example:
> make O=/home/user/kernel/tree/ menuconfig
> make O=/home/user/kernel/tree/
>
>
This is how I
On Sunday 12 September 2010 17:27:36 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:
> Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr:
> > Selon Mick :
> > > On Saturday 11 September 2010 17:01:29 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:
> > > > Selon Stéphane Guedon :
> > > > > Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free
>> This was actually a potential risk once upon a time:
>
> Sorry to drift from the topic, but would somebody please explain to me
> what a potential risk is? How does it differ from a risk?
A risk is always potential. A potential risk is when you are not sure
if it is a risk at all.
Al
> So why shouldn't you be able to load an unshared lib (without PIC)
> dynamically? Sure there still would be some additional steps.
I am not talking specifically about PIC/non-PIC code here. PIC is
relevant because when you're doing dynamic loading you generally cannot
predict at what (virtual) a
On 09/11/2010 01:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
The root user (sometimes portage) creates /usr/src/linux-*
Someone tell me again exactly how user alan is supposed to build those
sources?
From the kernel README:
To configure and build the kernel use:
cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.N
make O=/home
Hi,
Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file
from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world"
then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same stuff ???
best regards,
mcc
On Sunday 12 September 2010 19:27:10 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file
> from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world"
> then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same stuff ???
>
> best regard
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:27 AM, wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file
> from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world"
> then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same stuff ???
>
> best regards,
> mcc
>
It's OK t
Mark Knecht [10-09-12 19:48]:
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:27 AM, wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file
> > from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world"
> > then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same s
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:27 on Sunday 12 September 2010,
meino.cra...@gmx.de did opine thusly:
> Hi,
>
> Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file
> from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world"
> then, when logged into my 64bit system to
alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:
> > But that silly k3b returns
> > No optical drive found.
> > K3b did not find any optical device in your system.
> > Solution : Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding
> > devices.
> > and on the terminal
>
> Finally solved, a matter of per
>
> What I am saying is that there is no way to dynamically load code from a
> .a file, at least not with the system tools, period.
>
O.K. so we have to stress the term archive in your statement.
Al
Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to local
source file?
I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7
but it does not seems to exist on any mirror (I have in may make.conf), I found asterisk-addons-1.4.7.tar.gz file but I need to point emerge to local file
instead.
On 09/13/2010 12:41 AM, Joseph wrote:
Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to
local source file?
I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7
but it does not seems to exist on any mirror (I have in may make.conf),
I found asterisk-addons-1.4.7.tar.gz file but I need to p
Hi folks,
I've got a tricky task for automatic update script, which requires
some portage magic ...
The script has a list of packages which should be updated
completely automatically, but *only* if they're pulled in as
dependency (beginning from world), and others not in that list
should *not*
* Al wrote:
> >> What is your strategia to build up a community?
> >
> > Actually, I don't really have any. All I can do is offering it
> > as OSS and do a little bit advocacy here and there - I don't
> > have the resources to build up real community structures all
> > alone. Of course, anybody's
* Andrea Conti wrote:
> More importantly, code which is intended to be used in shared objects
> must be compiled with specific options as position-independent code,
> whereas code in an archive needs not.
Not necessarily. But it can't be shared at runtime anymore, since
the dynamic loader has to
>
> Just let the project grow. It does not require anyone jumping into
> it to stick with it for long time. All I'm proposing right now is
> adopt the model, which makes collaboration w/ other distros easier.
> It's something like an aggreement as FHS.
Hope you have the power to go that way far en
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:09 on Monday 13 September 2010, Nikos
Chantziaras did opine thusly:
> On 09/13/2010 12:41 AM, Joseph wrote:
> > Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to
> > local source file?
> > I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7
> > but it d
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:13 on Sunday 12 September 2010, Enrico
Weigelt did opine thusly:
> Hi folks,
>
>
> I've got a tricky task for automatic update script, which requires
> some portage magic ...
>
> The script has a list of packages which should be updated
> completely automatic
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:13:28 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> The script has a list of packages which should be updated
> completely automatically, but *only* if they're pulled in as
> dependency (beginning from world), and others not in that list
> should *not* be updated.
Would piping emerge -pu
* Al wrote:
> Hope you have the power to go that way far enough on your own until it
> becomes interesting for more people.
Well, let's see where it goes. I'll continue my work and it
seems that soon a few others might jump in.
> I did good progress with Gentoo on Cygwin this WE. 3 big packages
On 09/13/10 01:09, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 09/13/2010 12:41 AM, Joseph wrote:
Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to
local source file?
I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7
but it does not seems to exist on any mirror (I have in may make.conf),
I found aste
Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's saying me
it needs an update of portage itself.
In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)...
Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an other...
what's going on ? Is somebody
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