Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: So I looked up "auto-hinter" in the flagedit(1) program. It says: auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media- libs/freetype) The pl

Re: [gentoo-user] removing an overlay

2010-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 06:25 on Friday 20 August 2010, Alan Warren did opine thusly: > Hello, > > I've just sync'd my machine, and realized I'm pulling in a few packages > from the devnull overlay that I would rather not. freetype / fontconfig / > cairo for example and it's causing > so

[gentoo-user] CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT

2010-08-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, today, when emerging dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8o-r2, which is needed for nxssh, I've got the message !!! CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT: cannot import name HTTPSConnection Does anybody have an idea what that means? Thanks for a hint, Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:20:09 -0500, Dale wrote: > So, all that said, what the heck are we supposed to change here? Nothing, unless you're using the bindist USE flag, in which case you should replace it by auto-hinter. All that's happened is that control of that feature has passed from one USE fla

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:38:10 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > No, it isn't. You may be being confused by the unnecessary inclusion of > brackets (parentheses if you're American); If you're British too: Defined usage: () parentheses [] brackets {} braces General usage: () brackets [] sq

Re: [gentoo-user] removing an overlay

2010-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:25:12 -0500, Alan Warren wrote: > I'm surprised packages in overlays take precedence over portage. > Is > there any way to get a single package from an overlay without taking > "everything" ? An overlay has to take precedence, otherwise putting a fixed ebuild in your local

Re: [gentoo-user] Still Struggling With Wireless

2010-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:49:23 +, CJoeB wrote: > More than anything, I am acknowledging this response. My understanding > is that Wicd requires wpa-supplicant. I don't know that I'm ready to > try to tackle the setup of wpa-supplicant - it's supposed to be harder > (it looks harder from what I

Re: [gentoo-user] CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT

2010-08-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 08/20/10 09:35:06, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > today, when emerging dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8o-r2, which is needed for > nxssh, I've got the message > !!! CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT: cannot import name HTTPSConnection > > Does anybody have an idea what that means? > > Thanks for a hint, >

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:20:09 -0500, Dale wrote: So, all that said, what the heck are we supposed to change here? Nothing, unless you're using the bindist USE flag, in which case you should replace it by auto-hinter. All that's happened is that control of that fea

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 10:03 on Friday 20 August 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:38:10 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > No, it isn't. You may be being confused by the unnecessary inclusion of > > brackets (parentheses if you're American); > > If you're Bri

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with revdep-rebuild

2010-08-20 Thread Massimiliano Ziccardi
Hi all! Thanks to your beautiful support, I solved my issue! Again, as usual, I've to send my compliments to this mailing list: every time I've a problem here there is someone that tries to help me (and usually solves my problems)! Moreover, simply reading the ML I always learn new commands that re

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:38 on Friday 20 August 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: > On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > So I looked up "auto-hinter" in the flagedit(1) program. It says: > > auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead >

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:01:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > "Arrogant jerk on second floor with a beard and no head hair" is > definitely more intuitive to my new staff, but for anyone here longer > than a week it is far simpler to just use the name of the thing instead > of some description, and r

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1

2010-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:28 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: > On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:55:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Besides, if I don't give them some form of responsibility they will > > never become responsible. > > Unfortunately, the converse is no

Re: [gentoo-user] Still Struggling With Wireless

2010-08-20 Thread Elmar Hinz
> Wicd require wpa_supplicant because that's what it uses, not you. Wicd > does all the hard work, you just give it the password etc. and let it get > on with things. What is hard with wpa_supplicant? It is just three lines: wpa_passphrase [passphrase] > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant

[gentoo-user] why emerge --config don't work

2010-08-20 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
Hi there, why this command don't work in zsh: />>> Installing (1 of 1) sys-apps/tomoyo-tools-2.2.0_p20090727 * Execute the following command to setup the initial policy configuration: * * emerge --config =sys-apps/tomoyo-tools-2.2.0_p20090727 * * For more information, please visit the follow

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 04:38 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > >> So I looked up "auto-hinter" in the flagedit(1) program. It says: >> auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead >> of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter

Re: [gentoo-user] removing an overlay

2010-08-20 Thread Alan Warren
Excellent. thank you. Both responses are very helpful. Alan On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:25:12 -0500, Alan Warren wrote: > > > I'm surprised packages in overlays take precedence over portage. > > > Is > > there any way to get a single package f

[gentoo-user] Re: CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT

2010-08-20 Thread walt
On 08/20/2010 12:35 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, today, when emerging dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8o-r2, which is needed for nxssh, I've got the message !!! CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT: cannot import name HTTPSConnection The class HTTPSConnection is defined in httplib.py, which is part of python its

[gentoo-user] libacl mess

2010-08-20 Thread Philip Webb
I finally got back to updating my netbook, in which I installed Gentoo a few months ago. I came across the packages 'acl' & 'attr', which are not installed in my regular desktop machine & for which 'equery d' showed nothing actually dependent ('emerge -cpv' doesn't work with the earlier Portage in

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-20 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/19/2010 08:44 AM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 18.08.2010 21:30, schrieb Elmar Hinz: >> 1.) Is there a Map: modules to configration parameters? >> >> "lspci -k" lists me all modules of the running genkernel. >> Unfortunately the configuration parameters of the kernel have >> different names. >

Re: [gentoo-user] why emerge --config don't work

2010-08-20 Thread Alex Schuster
Zhu Sha Zang writes: > Hi there, why this command don't work in zsh: [...] > [r...@sakurazukamori /usr/src/linux]$ emerge --config > =sys-apps/tomoyo-tools-2.2.0_p20090727 > 9:44 > zsh: sys-apps/tomoyo-tools-2.2.0_p20090727 not found Interesting. Looks like zsh treats a '=' character specially.

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 20 August 2010 09:03:46 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Defined usage: > () parentheses > [] brackets > {} braces "Defined"? Defined where? In English*, a parenthesis is a separate expression** marked off from the rest of the sentence with brackets. Round ones, that is. A parenthesis is

Re: [gentoo-user] libacl mess : further thoughts

2010-08-20 Thread Philip Webb
100820 Philip Webb wrote: >> The next step seems to be to unpack the whole Stage 3 tarball >> in the netbook's / dir & see what happens. After that, a full reinstall. Further examination of what's in Stage 3 + review of my detailed notes from installation last year suggest that the correct atte

Re: [gentoo-user] why emerge --config don't work

2010-08-20 Thread Florian CROUZAT
On 20 août 2010, at 16:50, Alex Schuster wrote: > weird% echo =find > /usr/bin/find > > Your command works, when the = is escaped by a \, or when the stuff is > quoted. I don't use zsh, but a little of google's magic[1] shows: > A command name with a = prepended is replaced with its full pat

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 20 August 2010 14:20:35 Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/19/2010 04:38 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > >> So I looked up "auto-hinter" in the flagedit(1) program. It says: > >> auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter ins

Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/20/2010 07:58 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 20 August 2010 14:20:35 Bill Longman wrote: >> On 08/19/2010 04:38 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: So I looked up "auto-hinter" in the flagedit(1) program. It says: auto-hinte

Re: [gentoo-user] Still Struggling With Wireless

2010-08-20 Thread Mick
On 18 August 2010 03:56, CJoeB wrote: > Haven't tried this yet - just got the e-mail and it's almost 11:00 p.m. > and time for me to "hit the sack".  However, I wanted to point this > out.  This test was copied from dmesg.  Unless, I am misreading this, it > looks like the driver is working.  The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT

2010-08-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 08/20/10 15:43:20, walt wrote: > On 08/20/2010 12:35 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > today, when emerging dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8o-r2, which is needed > for > > nxssh, I've got the message > > !!! CANNOT IMPORT HTTP.CLIENT: cannot import name HTTPSConnection > > The class HTTPSConnec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge 32bits on 64bits platform

2010-08-20 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Welcome to hell. No, that's possible, as others pointed out. There was > an initiative to bring true multilib to Gentoo a year or so back (maybe > more) but it seems it died and no one's working on it. > > For your browser this is probably not so problematic. Bu

[WAY OT] Parenthese, was Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 8/20/2010 11:40 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > As to the thingies, I enjoyed discovering that to many people a > parenthesis is not a glyph or punctuation mark, but instead the contents > of the language set aside in one way or another. I had always regarded > parentheses as the round glyphs (),

Re: [gentoo-user] libacl mess : further thoughts

2010-08-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/20/2010 11:02 AM, Philip Webb wrote: 100820 Philip Webb wrote: The next step seems to be to unpack the whole Stage 3 tarball in the netbook's / dir& see what happens. After that, a full reinstall. Further examination of what's in Stage 3 + review of my detailed notes from installatio

[gentoo-user] Re: DVD borked: SysFS removed

2010-08-20 Thread James
walt gmail.com> writes: > < > ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support (DEPRECATED) ---> OK, this fixed the dvd so that now it works...(thanks) ><*> Serial ATA and Parallel ATA drivers ---> I had this already, just deleted the one above. Kernel rebuilt, now it works with Kaffeine to play video

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-20 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:43:40 -0700 schrieb Bill Longman : [...] > I find it amazing, though, that even if I copy my old .config, it still > takes me so much time to make sure all the settings are correct for a > given machine. Hasn't anyone come up with a handy > look-through-my-lspci-output-and-c

Re: [WAY OT] Parenthese, was Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages

2010-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:07 on Friday 20 August 2010, Mike Edenfield did opine thusly: > On 8/20/2010 11:40 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > As to the thingies, I enjoyed discovering that to many people a > > parenthesis is not a glyph or punctuation mark, but instead the contents > > of t

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-20 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/20/2010 11:44 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:43:40 -0700 > schrieb Bill Longman : > > [...] >> I find it amazing, though, that even if I copy my old .config, it still >> takes me so much time to make sure all the settings are correct for a >> given machine. Hasn't anyone com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Incomplete mysql backup

2010-08-20 Thread Mick
On Friday 20 August 2010 05:58:49 kashani wrote: > On 8/19/2010 12:03 PM, Mick wrote: > > I use mysqldump to back up a database from a development environment and > > upload it to a production environment. > > > > A couple of days ago I was surprised to see that I was getting errors as > > soon as

[gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] Parenthese

2010-08-20 Thread Alex Schuster
Wow, what's going on here? Alan McKinnon writes: > Like Eskimo's with 20+ words for different kinds of snow. > Say "snow" to any Eskimo, see what happens :-) Actually, they have only two words for snow: qanik for falling snow and aput for lying snow. Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/20/2010 11:44 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: >> Am Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:43:40 -0700 >> schrieb Bill Longman : >> >> [...] >>> I find it amazing, though, that even if I copy my old .config, it still >>> takes me so much time to make sure all the s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] Parenthese

2010-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:32 on Friday 20 August 2010, Alex Schuster did opine thusly: > Wow, what's going on here? > > Alan McKinnon writes: > > Like Eskimo's with 20+ words for different kinds of snow. > > Say "snow" to any Eskimo, see what happens :-) > > Actually, they have only tw

[gentoo-user] Re: DVD borked: SysFS removed

2010-08-20 Thread walt
On 08/20/2010 11:33 AM, James wrote: walt gmail.com> writes: $ls -l /dev/dvd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2010-08-17 04:46 /dev/dvd -> sr0 I get: ls: cannot access /dev/dvd: No such file or directory I forgot an important detail. Your device drivers have changed, so your disks will now sho

[gentoo-user] Installer Skript

2010-08-20 Thread Elmar Hinz
Hello, yesterday I was working on an installer skript for Gentoo. What does it do? * It does the basic installation until you can reboot and login. * That includes formatting of the given partitions. * That includes compiling a genkernel. * It is developed and tested on Ubuntu. What does it not

Re: [gentoo-user] why emerge --config don't work

2010-08-20 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 20 August 2010, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: > Hi there, why this command don't work in zsh: > > />>> Installing (1 of 1) sys-apps/tomoyo-tools-2.2.0_p20090727 > * Execute the following command to setup the initial policy configuration: > * > * emerge --config =sys-apps/tomoyo-tools-2.2.0_p20

Re: [gentoo-user] libacl mess : solved by sleep

2010-08-20 Thread Philip Webb
100820 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > You might be able to grab the 'acl' and 'attr' packages from here: >http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/ Thanks for that link: I had the idea someone kept tarballs somewhere, but couldn't find a reference in my usually extensive notes. Anyway after some sleep, I w

[gentoo-user] DHCPCD and nameserver

2010-08-20 Thread Dale
Hi folks, I'm trying to get my nameserver setting to stick in resolv.conf when I restart the network or reboot. Layman will not work with my ISP's DNS server for some crazy reason. Anyway, I have this in /etc/conf.d/net file: modules="dhcpcd" config_eth2="dhcp" dns_servers_eth2="nameserver