Hi,
I'm curious how portage solves its most difficult part (in my eyes).
When installing a dynamic library (by "hand") I have often got an
error messages if the corresponding library is currently in use.
How does portage succeed anyway.
(I have the suspicion that it does not succeed always, sinc
On Friday 11 December 2009 11:11:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm curious how portage solves its most difficult part (in my eyes).
>
> When installing a dynamic library (by "hand") I have often got an
> error messages if the corresponding library is currently in use.
>
> How does portage
On 11 Dec, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Friday 11 December 2009 11:11:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm curious how portage solves its most difficult part (in my eyes).
>>
>> When installing a dynamic library (by "hand") I have often got an
>> error messages if the corresponding library is
On Friday 11 December 2009 13:02:36 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Many thanks Alan,
>
> so I conclude that rebooting IS necessary to get the new libraries used,
> isn't it?
No, not at all, you conclude wrongly.
Unix works the way it does precisely so you *don't* require a reboot to use
new libraries
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 03:18:20AM +0100, Penguin Lover Frank Steinmetzger
squawked:
> Am Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2009 schrieb Willie Wong:
>
> > When you plug-in your device, what does
> > /sys/block/sdb/queue/max_hw_sectors_kb say?
>
> 120
Okay, this checks out with the
> hw_sector_size sa
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 04:58:35PM +0100, Penguin Lover Frank Steinmetzger
squawked:
> > You are not running any sort of LVM, RAID, or encryption, are you?
> > A similar bug seems to have occured in device mapper, where dm gave
> > the underlying fs the wrong values for max_hw_sector.
>
> I recko
I will install Gentoo Linux on a Dell laptop with Intel Core2 Dua and
8GiB RAM. I tried 2 different LiveCDs. x86 boots fine, but does not seem
to find all memory. IA64 does not boot. Are there hidden versions like
x86_64?
On Friday 11 December 2009 14:00:22 Erik wrote:
> I will install Gentoo Linux on a Dell laptop with Intel Core2 Dua and
> 8GiB RAM. I tried 2 different LiveCDs. x86 boots fine, but does not seem
> to find all memory. IA64 does not boot. Are there hidden versions like
> x86_64?
>
IA64 is for a co
Am 11.12.2009 13:00, schrieb Erik:
> I will install Gentoo Linux on a Dell laptop with Intel Core2 Dua and
> 8GiB RAM. I tried 2 different LiveCDs. x86 boots fine, but does not seem
> to find all memory. IA64 does not boot. Are there hidden versions like
> x86_64?
>
Hi,
you need the amd64 LiveCD
Well, if you wantto install a 64bit env. then you have to use the AMD64
livecd. IA64 isn't the 64bit architecture :-)
Zeerak
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:00:22 +0100, Erik wrote:
I will install Gentoo Linux on a Dell laptop with Intel Core2 Dua and
8GiB RAM. I tried 2 different LiveCDs. x86 boots
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
On 11 Dec, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 11 December 2009 11:11:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
I'm curious how portage solves its most difficult part (in my eyes).
When installing a dynamic library (by "hand") I have often got an
error messages if the correspond
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 07:16 -0600, Dale wrote:
> Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > On 11 Dec, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday 11 December 2009 11:11:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm curious how portage solves its most difficult part (in my eyes).
> >>>
> >>> When in
2009/12/11 Alan McKinnon :
> On Friday 11 December 2009 13:02:36 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> Many thanks Alan,
>>
>> so I conclude that rebooting IS necessary to get the new libraries used,
>> isn't it?
>
> No, not at all, you conclude wrongly.
>
> Unix works the way it does precisely so you *don't*
On Friday 11 December 2009 15:16:01 Dale wrote:
> Rebooting will also do all of this but it is not needed. From a
> technical stand point, the only time you must reboot is to load a new
> kernel.
>
And these days, not even then :-)
[it requires some voodoo but is certainly possible]
[[and I
Mickaël Bucas wrote:
2009/12/11 Alan McKinnon :
On Friday 11 December 2009 13:02:36 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Many thanks Alan,
so I conclude that rebooting IS necessary to get the new libraries used,
isn't it?
No, not at all, you conclude wrongly.
Unix works the way it does prec
Daniel Troeder wrote:
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 07:16 -0600, Dale wrote:
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
On 11 Dec, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 11 December 2009 11:11:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
I'm curious how portage solves its most difficult part (in my eyes).
Whe
On Freitag 11 Dezember 2009, Daniel Troeder wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 07:16 -0600, Dale wrote:
> > Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > > On 11 Dec, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > >> On Friday 11 December 2009 11:11:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm curious how portage solves its most
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 11 December 2009 15:16:01 Dale wrote:
Rebooting will also do all of this but it is not needed. From a
technical stand point, the only time you must reboot is to load a new
kernel.
And these days, not even then :-)
[it requires some voodoo but is cert
Since the massive Qt 4.6.0/KDE 4.3.4 update I have noticed that the search
widget for the various weather plasmoids always returns "Cannot find 'London'"
or whatever. This is on two systems; anyone else notice this?
TIA
-Robin
--
-
On 12/11/2009 9:38 AM, Dale wrote:
Mickaël Bucas wrote:
From the process name, you can deduce the service and restart it.
I've never needed a reboot for this kind of problem.
You may have to switch to run level 1 to restart some important
services like udev.
Actually, you can kill udev and
On Friday 11 December 2009 17:07:17 Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Friday 11 December 2009 15:16:01 Dale wrote:
> >> Rebooting will also do all of this but it is not needed. From a
> >> technical stand point, the only time you must reboot is to load a new
> >> kernel.
> >
> > And these
Am 10.12.2009 05:41, schrieb Joshua Murphy:
> Respawns on close/crash... doesn't allow attempts to start more than
> once (hence the 'lockfile' type hack in the script), doesn't break on
> a stale lockfile, and does whatever the user ('myuser' should be
> replaced with a real username) wishes in t
On Friday 11 December 2009 18:33:49 Mike Edenfield wrote:
> On 12/11/2009 9:38 AM, Dale wrote:
> > Mickaël Bucas wrote:
> >> From the process name, you can deduce the service and restart it.
> >> I've never needed a reboot for this kind of problem.
> >> You may have to switch to run level 1 to rest
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:38:02 -0600
Dale wrote:
> Mickaël Bucas wrote:
> > 2009/12/11 Alan McKinnon :
> >
> >> Unix works the way it does precisely so you *don't* require a
> >> reboot to use new libraries. They are already there and fully
> >> installed and fully operational. You just have to
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 10.12.2009 05:41, schrieb Joshua Murphy:
>
>> Respawns on close/crash... doesn't allow attempts to start more than
>> once (hence the 'lockfile' type hack in the script), doesn't break on
>> a stale lockfile, and does whatever the
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 11 December 2009 18:33:49 Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 12/11/2009 9:38 AM, Dale wrote:
Mickaël Bucas wrote:
From the process name, you can deduce the service and restart it.
I've never needed a reboot for this kind of problem.
You may have to switch to
»Q« wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:38:02 -0600
Dale wrote:
Mickaël Bucas wrote:
2009/12/11 Alan McKinnon :
Unix works the way it does precisely so you *don't* require a
reboot to use new libraries. They are already there and fully
installed and fully operational. You just ha
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 11 December 2009 17:07:17 Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 11 December 2009 15:16:01 Dale wrote:
Rebooting will also do all of this but it is not needed. From a
technical stand point, the only time you must reboot is to load a new
kernel
On Friday 11 December 2009 21:00:49 Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Friday 11 December 2009 17:07:17 Dale wrote:
> >> I have also wondered why a person would go to all that trouble.
> >> Wouldn't all the services have to be restarted anyway?
> >
> > Nope. userspace ABI is stable so servi
On Friday 11 December 2009 20:54:46 Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Now do you understand why my refusal to reboot my machines willy-nilly is
> > entirely rational? It's because they are not my laptop.
>
> That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not
> rebooted to much.
On 12/11/09 11:00, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On Friday 11 December 2009 17:07:17 Dale wrote:
>>
>>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>
On Friday 11 December 2009 15:16:01 Dale wrote:
> Rebooting will also do all of this but it is not needed. From a
> technical stand
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Friday 11 December 2009 21:00:49 Dale wrote:
That would be cool of you had a system that just couldn't be rebooted.
Is there such a thing tho? What would be the reason a machine just
could not be rebooted? I guess one would be if the puter was on planet
Mars maybe?
Hi All,
I emerged xorg-server-1.6.5-r1, as well as
x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.0, xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0,
xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 and xf86-input-evdev-2.3.1 and now I can't get
past the xdm login screen. It is worth noting that I also emerged a
load of apps including xkbcomp-1.1.1 and
Is evdev complied into your kernel? It should be.
Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I emerged xorg-server-1.6.5-r1, as well as
> x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.0, xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0,
> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 and xf86-input-evdev-2.3.1 and now I can't get
> past the xdm login screen. It is
Dale wrote:
> One reason I mentioned the Mars thing, I recall them having a puter on
> Mars or something that had a hiccup and they thought they had lost it.
> Somehow it just popped itself back up tho. I guess it was trying to
> find some code that did work and finally did. I remember them say
Now I am trying to install Gentoo on a new system but when try to emerge
gentoo-sources (as I am supposed to), it hangs at "Applying
4400_alpha-sysctl-uac.patch". This problem is also known as bug #291389.
I see with top in another virtual terminal that rm uses 100% CPU. Is
there any way to continu
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
> That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not rebooted
> to much. I once went 242 days without a reboot.
Ahem! While we are busy comparing wang sizes, read my sig please.
That is the server formerly k
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:28:35AM +0100, Penguin Lover Erik squawked:
> Now I am trying to install Gentoo on a new system but when try to emerge
> gentoo-sources (as I am supposed to), it hangs at "Applying
> 4400_alpha-sysctl-uac.patch". This problem is also known as bug #291389.
> I see with top
Erik wrote:
Now I am trying to install Gentoo on a new system but when try to emerge
gentoo-sources (as I am supposed to), it hangs at "Applying
4400_alpha-sysctl-uac.patch". This problem is also known as bug #291389.
I see with top in another virtual terminal that rm uses 100% CPU. Is
there any
pk wrote:
Dale wrote:
One reason I mentioned the Mars thing, I recall them having a puter on
Mars or something that had a hiccup and they thought they had lost it.
Somehow it just popped itself back up tho. I guess it was trying to
find some code that did work and finally did. I remember
On Samstag 12 Dezember 2009, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
> > That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not rebooted
> > to much. I once went 242 days without a reboot.
>
> Ahem! While we are busy comparing wang siz
On Samstag 12 Dezember 2009, Dale wrote:
> Willie Wong wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
> >> That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not
> >> rebooted to much. I once went 242 days without a reboot.
> >
> > Ahem! While we are bu
Willie Wong wrote:
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Penguin Lover Dale squawked:
That is certainly one good example. My little ol desktop is not rebooted
to much. I once went 242 days without a reboot.
Ahem! While we are busy comparing wang sizes, read my sig please.
Tha
On 12/11/09 16:43, Dale wrote:
> Erik wrote:
>> Now I am trying to install Gentoo on a new system but when try to emerge
>> gentoo-sources (as I am supposed to), it hangs at "Applying
>> 4400_alpha-sysctl-uac.patch". This problem is also known as bug #291389.
>> I see with top in another virtual te
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