150903 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:32:52 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> Mick mentioned 'S3' = 'sleep' & 'S4' = 'hibernation' in this connection:
>> what do they mean ? Do they correspond to saving to RAM/disk ?
> Short answer: Yes
> Long answer:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advan
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:32:52 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> I'm planning to build a new machine in the next few weeks,
> so I also now plan to set it up to do suspend, hibernate etc ;
> I've grabbed a few dox which explain what's involved.
> Mick mentioned 'S3' = 'sleep' & 'S4' = 'hibernation' in this
Thanks for the responses to my inquiry re how long systems stay up.
My feeling for electronics is that equipment needs stability :
temperature + humidity should not vary much
& electrons need to flow thro' wires regularly.
That suggests a machine will do better if left running.
I don't like the i
On Monday 31 August 2015 16:39:26 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 31/08/2015 15:41, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I won't tell you what systems used a 24-bit processor and 12 or 16 KB of
> > 2us core store backed by a 2MB disk (three feet in diameter), for fear of
> > frightening you.;-)
>
> Nah, I hav
On 31/08/2015 15:41, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 31 August 2015 11:42:28 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 31/08/2015 10:50, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> The desktop machine I'm referring to (an Amari "workstation") dates from
>>> 2009. It has an i5 processor, 16GB RAM* and two 2GB SSDs as the main
>>>
On 31/08/2015 15:41, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 31 August 2015 11:42:28 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 31/08/2015 10:50, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> The desktop machine I'm referring to (an Amari "workstation") dates from
>>> 2009. It has an i5 processor, 16GB RAM* and two 2GB SSDs as the main
>>>
On Monday 31 August 2015 11:42:28 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 31/08/2015 10:50, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > The desktop machine I'm referring to (an Amari "workstation") dates from
> > 2009. It has an i5 processor, 16GB RAM* and two 2GB SSDs as the main
> > power sinks. It sits (runs) in a boxroom 6ft
On 31/08/2015 10:50, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday 30 August 2015 18:26:49 Mick wrote:
>
>> Modern appliances with Green stickers on them (whatever they're called) are
>> more efficient by design. To some extent this is also true with PCs. I
>> still have an old Pentium 4 32bit running a cou
On Sunday 30 August 2015 18:26:49 Mick wrote:
> Modern appliances with Green stickers on them (whatever they're called) are
> more efficient by design. To some extent this is also true with PCs. I
> still have an old Pentium 4 32bit running a couple of test environments and
> back up storage. I
I personally find it beneficial to backup to an online source locally or in
an online storage service (as long as encryption incurs etc).
DVD are indeed limited in life. You are still better off with other
offline storage mediums such as an external hdd or tape indeed.
I've found crashplans unli
Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 30 Aug 2015 18:05:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 30/08/2015 19:00, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't forget the clothes dryer to, if you have one. Mine is electric
>>> and it pulls as much as my water heater does. I just don't use it as
>>> much is all.
>> I forgot about that :-)
>
On Sunday 30 Aug 2015 18:05:13 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/08/2015 19:00, Dale wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> On 30/08/2015 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >>> On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote:
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between
> re
Le 2015-08-30 11:56, Peter Humphrey a écrit :
On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote:
How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
How long between power off/on's ?
I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
then restarting a
On 30/08/2015 19:00, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 30/08/2015 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote:
How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
How long between power off/on's ?
I've long be
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/08/2015 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote:
>>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
>>> How long between power off/on's ?
>>>
>>> I've long been in the habit of switching everything o
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> No-one has yet mentioned taking backups. I'm still using a brute-force
> approach, in which I shut down each of my two machines once a week to make a
> backup to external disk.
I have a multi-tier strategy. Anything I'm going to complain
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Technically, we should do a power down test every 6 months or so, but
> that turns out not to be a yes/no test in real life; it's a yes/destroy
> test and no-one wants to make a decision either way. So we all sit in
> limbo and wait for some
On 30/08/2015 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote:
>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
>> How long between power off/on's ?
>>
>> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
>> then re
On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote:
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
> then restarting after I've woken & got going again mysel
On 30/08/2015 17:24, Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 08/30/2015 06:24 AM, Michel Catudal wrote:
>>
>> As for shutdowns there are several arguments for and against. What often
>> kills electronic is the shock between hot and cold so there is an
>> argument about keeping the system on.
>> Whether it is alway
On 08/30/2015 06:24 AM, Michel Catudal wrote:
>
> As for shutdowns there are several arguments for and against. What often
> kills electronic is the shock between hot and cold so there is an
> argument about keeping the system on.
> Whether it is always safe to keep the computer on all the time re
Am 30.08.2015 um 15:26 schrieb Alan Mackenzie:
> Hello, Philip.
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
>> How long between power off/on's ?
> I switch my PC on in the morning when I want to start
Am 30.08.2015 um 06:04 schrieb Philip Webb:
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
> then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself.
> Howev
On Sunday 30 Aug 2015 14:26:36 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hello, Philip.
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> > How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> > How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I switch my PC on in the morning when I wa
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
>> How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I switch my PC on in the morning when I want to start using
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> How long between power off/on's ?
I generally power off whenever I won't be using my desktop for more than
7-8 hours, since it has a big CPU, lots of RAM, dece
Hello, Philip.
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> How long between power off/on's ?
I switch my PC on in the morning when I want to start using it. I
switch it off before going to bed, or goin
Le 2015-08-30 00:04, Philip Webb a écrit :
How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
How long between power off/on's ?
I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself.
However recentl
Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 30 Aug 2015 08:54:16 Dale wrote:
>> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The biggest reason I shutdown, power failure. I use checkrestart to see
>>> if/when I need to restart something after doing updates. If for example
>>> I update something in the @
On Sunday 30 Aug 2015 08:54:16 Dale wrote:
> cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Dale wrote:
> >
> >
> > The biggest reason I shutdown, power failure. I use checkrestart to see
> > if/when I need to restart something after doing updates. If for example
> > I update something in the @system area,
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/08/2015 06:04, Philip Webb wrote:
>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
>> How long between power off/on's ?
>>
>
> Mine depends. I typically do a deliberate reboot only when wanting a new
> kernel
On 30/08/2015 06:04, Philip Webb wrote:
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
> then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself.
> However
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>
>
> The biggest reason I shutdown, power failure. I use checkrestart to see
> if/when I need to restart something after doing updates. If for example
> I update something in the @system area, then I just logout of the GUI,
> go to boot runlevel, run c
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
> then restarting after I've woken & got going agai
Dale wrote:
> Philip Webb wrote:
> > How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> > How long between power off/on's ?
> >
> > I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
> > then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself.
> > Ho
Philip Webb wrote:
> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
> How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep,
> then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself.
> However recently, I've run int
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