Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 2012-01-19 5:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: There's no known way to decrypt a mail like that without the single private key needed (this works exactly like https traffic to your bank). I feel very confident saying "no known way" as cracking that puzzle has been the Holy Grail of maths prizes for

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thursday, January 19, 2012, Dale > wrote: >> I don't have mine set up to sign them all. I did a couple to see if it >> worked or not. Whenever I sign a message, it asks for the password. It >> is quite a long password and I don't want to typ

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 1/20/2012 02:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 01:22:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: >> On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: >>> >>> This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired key >>> to

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 01:22:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: > On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: > > On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: > >> > >>> While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up t

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thursday, January 19, 2012, Dale wrote: > I don't have mine set up to sign them all. I did a couple to see if it > worked or not. Whenever I sign a message, it asks for the password. It > is quite a long password and I don't want to type it in every time I > send something. If you use gpg-a

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Mick wrote: > On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 23:20:44 Dale wrote: >> Chris Walters wrote: > >> I'm starting to see this now. When I sign a message, it is public but >> people are assured that it came from me. Sort of like having a check >> with a picture ID that matches. :/ > > Better than that. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Dale wrote: > Matthew Finkel wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale > > wrote: > > > > Mud is clearing up a bit. > > > > > >> Excellent! Lookin good! > > > > > > Well, I get this on top of your message: > > Error - N

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 23:20:44 Dale wrote: > Chris Walters wrote: > I'm starting to see this now. When I sign a message, it is public but > people are assured that it came from me. Sort of like having a check > with a picture ID that matches. :/ Better than that. Readers (all that have acce

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Matthew Finkel wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale > wrote: > > Mud is clearing up a bit. > > >> Excellent! Lookin good! > > Well, I get this on top of your message: Error - No valid armored OpenPGP data block found What's wrong with that? You

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mud is clearing up a bit. > Excellent! Lookin good! > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > - -- > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood > or how you interpreted my words! > > M

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Walters wrote: > On 1/19/2012 05:04 PM, Dale wrote: >> Chris Walters wrote: >>> >>> This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and >>> expired key to sign my messages, lately. >>> >>> Chris >>> >> >> >> I have a question now.

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:04:11 -0600 Dale > wrote: > >> Chris Walters wrote: >>> On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: > While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email > set up to

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 22:44:12 Chris Walters wrote: > On 1/19/2012 05:04 PM, Dale wrote: > > I have a question now. I got a message from Paul Hartman and replied to > > it, off list, and it was encrypted and I hope my reply was too. My > > question is this. How do you make a email that only t

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Paul Hartman wrote: > There are basically 2 things PGP/GPG normally does for emails: signing > and encrypting. They are not mutually exclusive. > > Signing (like you see on a lot of messages on this list, for example) > is about the person who SENT the message. It lets you verify that the > pers

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:42:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > There's no known way to decrypt a mail like that without the single > private key needed (this works exactly like https traffic to your > bank). I feel very confident saying "no known way" as cracking that > puzzle has been the Holy Grail

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Dale wrote: > Chris Walters wrote: > > This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired > key to > > sign my messages, lately. > > > > Chris > > > I have a question now. I got a message from Paul Hartman and replied to > it, off list, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/19/2012 05:04 PM, Dale wrote: > Chris Walters wrote: >> >> This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired key to >> sign my messages, lately. >> >> Chris >> > > > I have a question now. I got a message from Paul Hartman and replied to > it, off list, and it was encry

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:04:11 -0600 Dale wrote: > Chris Walters wrote: > > On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: > >> > >>> While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set > >>> up to encrypt and decrypt emails?

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Dale wrote: > Chris Walters wrote: >> On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: >>> While on this subject, sort of.  Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt emails?  I want

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Chris Walters wrote: > On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: >> >>> While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to >>> encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. >> >> Well, if you had

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: > On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: >> >>> While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to >>> encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST.

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: > >> While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to >> encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. > > Well, if you had signed your mail, then I co

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: > While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to > encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. Well, if you had signed your mail, then I could write you encrypted. :) -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/19/2012 05:29 AM, Chris Walters wrote: > On 1/19/2012 01:44 AM, v...@ukr.net wrote: >> Hello! >> >> From what I know for sure, many people in different countries >> supported the opposition to these bills because they understand that >> this is not just a US problem. If it happens there,

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout. Fixing.

On 1/19/2012 06:58 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > If by "fix" you mean "wage war on and shoot", then yes :-) > > It seems like that is the only method humanity uses to fix it's > governments that go toxic - witness the last year's events in that part > of the world that has lots of desert By "fix" I

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:03:29 -0500 Chris Walters wrote: > On 1/19/2012 05:41 AM, Yohan Pereira wrote: > > im fairly certain it was humanity that started this whole goverment > > thing. > > True. Once started, though, governments tend to evolve on their own > - I am pretty certain that most gove

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/19/2012 05:41 AM, Yohan Pereira wrote: > im fairly certain it was humanity that started this whole goverment thing. True. Once started, though, governments tend to evolve on their own - I am pretty certain that most government officials are from another planet. Besides, isn't it up to humani

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:11:24 +0530 Yohan Pereira wrote: > On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 08:27:20 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. > > > > Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good > > im fairly certain it was humanity that started this who

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 08:27:20 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. > > Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good im fairly certain it was humanity that started this whole goverment thing. -- - Yohan Pereira

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/19/2012 01:27 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. > > Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good. Agreed. Chris --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120118-1, 01/18/2012 Tested on: 1/19/2012 5:30:31

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/19/2012 01:44 AM, v...@ukr.net wrote: > Hello! > > From what I know for sure, many people in different countries > supported the opposition to these bills because they understand that > this is not just a US problem. If it happens there, it can easily be > repeated anywhere. And the point

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:08:42 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> Here's to hoping Governments learn they can't regulate thought or >> stupidity. > > Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. > > Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good. > > > Well

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Hello! On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:21:12 -0600 Dale wrote: > ... > I also pointed out that no law we pass here affects the > people overseas. Last I heard, when you got a few miles off shore, > our laws pretty much end. The people in other countries are going to > hack and steal and host whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:08:42 -0600 Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >>> I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD > >>> sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that > >>> did was opensuse.

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Chris Walters wrote: On 1/18/2012 08:21 PM, Dale wrote: I don't like the law and honestly I don't like 99% of the laws they even think about much less pass. Trust me, I let my Rep know several times that I oppose both of them and even got a phone call today from one of them. I also pointed ou

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

El 19/01/12 00:55, Chris Walters escribió: > I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not > join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . Some of us did support the movement on our ways, for example the Gentoo Hardened team didn't twit the m

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On 1/18/2012 08:21 PM, Dale wrote: > I don't like the law and honestly I don't like 99% of the laws they even think > about much less pass. Trust me, I let my Rep know several times that I oppose > both of them and even got a phone call today from one of them. I also > pointed > out that no law

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . […] I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not > > join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . > > […] > I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the part that > bl

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

Chris Walters wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . These laws, as I understand them, and I am no lawyer, could be used against open source kernels, operating system tools, and ot