Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Thanasis
on 01/30/2014 11:04 PM James wrote the following: > Peter Humphrey prh.myzen.co.uk> writes: > > >>> Maybe you chose unwisely?(get ATI next time) unless > >> >> I've used nVidia cards for many years. When I bought my first one >> (maybe 20 years ago) ATI support in Linux was woeful

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 30 Jan 2014 15:25:47 James wrote: > Nividia is a *VENDOR* that chooses not to provide information so > drivers can be properly maintained, historically. ATI (AMD now) is a vendor > who provides information so drivers can be maintained, even optimized, into > perpetuity. > > Maybe you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2014 17:25, James wrote: > As part of the open source community, I would think you have a > repsonsibility to *reward those vendors that work generously with the > greater open source community* ? No, not actually. The only responsibility he has is to do whatever he feels like doing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2014 11:54, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/30/2014 12:50 AM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: >>> On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote: >>> Yea, but I think, this is the case for *all* packages, not only kernel >>> sources, at least until now, isn't it? >> >> No, not at all. >> >> Kernels are dif

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Thanasis
on 01/30/2014 12:50 AM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: >> On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote: >> Yea, but I think, this is the case for *all* packages, not only kernel >> sources, at least until now, isn't it? > > No, not at all. > > Kernels are different and portage treats them very differen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-30 Thread Thanasis
on 01/30/2014 08:30 AM Mick wrote the following: > On Wednesday 29 Jan 2014 19:37:39 Thanasis wrote: >>> Sometimes folks have to stay with a kernel series, because a vendor >>> binary patch forces them into this situation. >> >> That's my case, ie Nvidia drivers for a relatively old hardware (AGP >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 29 Jan 2014 19:37:39 Thanasis wrote: > > Sometimes folks have to stay with a kernel series, because a vendor > > binary patch forces them into this situation. > > That's my case, ie Nvidia drivers for a relatively old hardware (AGP > Graphics). Wouldn't nouveau drivers overcome this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/01/2014 00:14, Thanasis wrote: > on 01/29/2014 11:41 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: >> On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote: >>> Thanasis asyr.hopto.org> writes: >>> >>> No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 11:41 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: > On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote: >> Thanasis asyr.hopto.org> writes: >> >> >>> No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a >>> newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an update of the world >>> set, the ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/01/2014 21:37, Thanasis wrote: >> I only use Alan Cox, as an example; >> > I have no idea who the long-term kernel maintainer is now, but >> > historically it's been somebody with a vested interest, or >> > some poor-unappreciated sapimho. > Googling about kernel maintainer for long term

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/01/2014 17:35, James wrote: > Thanasis asyr.hopto.org> writes: > > >> No, because as I said in a previous post, the matter is that when a >> newer version 3.10.X is in the tree, and you do an update of the world >> set, the newer kernel source of the 3.10.X series won't appear as an update

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 05:59 PM James wrote the following: >>> Once the newer kernel series come out, the newer versions >>> of a series (usually) slow way down on being delivered. >> Not necessarily, if some devs are maintaining a series as "long term", >> which, I think, is the case for the 3.10.X series

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 03:36 PM James wrote the following: > Once the newer kernel series come out, the newer versions > of a series (usually) slow way down on being delivered. Not necessarily, if some devs are maintaining a series as "long term", which, I think, is the case for the 3.10.X series (if I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/28/2014 10:12 PM eroen wrote the following: > On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200, Thanasis > wrote: >> Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest >> 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with >> the latest gentoo-sources? >> >> Currently,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Thanasis
on 01/29/2014 03:23 PM James wrote the following: > There might be a work around that suites your needs? > > # emerge -pv =gentoo-sources-3.10.28 > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild NS ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.28

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/01/2014 15:23, James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > > Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest > 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with > the latest gentoo-sources? > >> that won't work as each kernel e