Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-10 Thread Wol's lists
On 10/02/18 20:06, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: Am Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:38:56 + schrieb Wols Lists: On 10/02/18 18:56, Kai Krakow wrote: role and /usr takes the role of /, and /home already took the role of /usr (that's why it's called /usr, it wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:38:56 + schrieb Wols Lists: > >> On 10/02/18 18:56, Kai Krakow wrote: >>> role and /usr takes the role of /, and /home already took the role of >>> /usr (that's why it's called /usr, it was user data in early unix). Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/02/18 18:56, Kai Krakow wrote: > role and /usr takes the role of /, and /home already took the role of /usr > (that's why it's called /usr, it was user data in early unix). The Actually no, not at all. /usr is not short for USeR, it's an acronym for User System Resources, which is why it c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-09 Thread gevisz
2018-02-09 4:15 GMT+02:00 Ian Zimmerman : > On 2018-02-09 01:15, Wol's lists wrote: > >> > Care to cite an example of such a program in the Gentoo repo? I >> > certainly can't think of any, and I've been running with /var/tmp on >> > tmpfs for over a decade. >> >> I don't know of any. > > vim? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-09 Thread gevisz
2018-02-09 3:50 GMT+02:00 Dale : > gevisz wrote: >> >> You probably will be surprised, but the main reason I am trying to use >> tmpfs for /var/tmp/ is not because I want to make emerging chromium >> faster (I have no hope about that because read somewhere that it will >> make compilation only 10 p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 22:50:58 +, Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor wrote: > Just adding my 2 cents EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--fail-clean" helps a ton > with tmpfs. But it doesn't help much when your chromium build fails with 30 minutes to go and a quick(ish) "ebuild path/to/ebuild merge" would have fixed it, as h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-09 Thread gevisz
2018-02-09 0:50 GMT+02:00 Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor : > From: freemanr...@gmail.com on behalf of Rich > Freeman > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:38 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs > > Just adding my 2 cents EMERGE_DEFAU

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Dale
gevisz wrote: > > You probably will be surprised, but the main reason I am trying to use > tmpfs for /var/tmp/ is not because I want to make emerging chromium > faster (I have no hope about that because read somewhere that it will > make compilation only 10 percent faster) but because I have not to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/02/18 21:17, Dale wrote: >> I have 16GBs of memory here and have /var/tmp/portage/ on tmpfs, no >> ccache.  With the growing size of packages, I've had to put several on >> regular spinning rust to make sure enough space is available.  This is >> my list, so far. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 02/08/2018 03:32 PM, gevisz wrote: In this case it would be nice to hear a reason. I think the reason probably goes back a number of years. When /tmp was made volatile (ram / swap backed) there was a need for non-volatile temp space. Thus, /var/tmp was created as non-volatile specificall

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
From: freemanr...@gmail.com on behalf of Rich Freeman Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:38 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:32 PM, gevisz wrote: >> 2018-02-09 0:19 GMT+02:00

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:32 PM, gevisz wrote: > 2018-02-09 0:19 GMT+02:00 Nikos Chantziaras : >> On 08/02/18 23:31, gevisz wrote: >>> >>> I do not use ccache, and in my /var/tmp I only have /var/tmp/portage >>> and /var/tmp/genkernel (I use genkernel to generate initramfs image). >>> >>> I never u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread gevisz
2018-02-09 0:19 GMT+02:00 Nikos Chantziaras : > On 08/02/18 23:31, gevisz wrote: >> >> I do not use ccache, and in my /var/tmp I only have /var/tmp/portage >> and /var/tmp/genkernel (I use genkernel to generate initramfs image). >> >> I never use emerge and genkernel at the same time. So, why not t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread gevisz
2018-02-08 23:57 GMT+02:00 Rich Freeman : > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, gevisz wrote: >> >> However, it probably won't be sooner than >> # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask >> world --exclude chromium >> fails because of the "--exclude chromium" part :), as I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, gevisz wrote: > > However, it probably won't be sooner than > # emerge --update --deep --with-bdeps=y --newuse --backtrack=90 --ask > world --exclude chromium > fails because of the "--exclude chromium" part :), as I have already compiled > the recent vertion of chr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread gevisz
2018-02-08 20:13 GMT+02:00 Rich Freeman : > On 08/02/18 19:11, gevisz wrote: >> >> I never used tmpfs for portage TMPDIR before and now decided to give it a >> try. >> >> I have 8GB of RAM and 12GB of swap on a separate partition. >> >> Do I correctly understood >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Port

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread gevisz
2018-02-08 19:47 GMT+02:00 Nikos Chantziaras : > On 08/02/18 19:11, gevisz wrote: >> >> I never used tmpfs for portage TMPDIR before and now decided >> to give it a try. >> >> I have 8GB of RAM and 12GB of swap on a separate partition. >> >> Do I correctly understood >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/02/18 20:13, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> >>> If you're not using ccache, then you don't need /var/tmp to be on tmpfs. >>> You >>> should only put /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs. >> >> >> I disagree on this. Unless you have something that use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/02/18 19:11, gevisz wrote: >> >> I never used tmpfs for portage TMPDIR before and now decided to give it a >> try. >> >> I have 8GB of RAM and 12GB of swap on a separate partition. >> You can try it, but for Chromium these days you