Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Thomas Pani
Mantas Povilaitis wrote: > AFAIK 4.0.0 will not be unmasked. Only 4.0.1 (or 4.1?). yep. from gentoo-dev: Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > Carsten Lohrke wrote: >> The code base has too many issues and is incomplete compared to >> KDE 3.5, so it's not ready to push it to the regular ~arch user, yet. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Mantas Povilaitis
2008/1/22, BRM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So I was wondering what kind of time frame would > be likely for getting KDE4 to be pushed to testing and then to open > availability. A couple months? Just curious. > > I noticed it finally showed up as a hard mask. > AFAIK 4.0.0 will not be unmasked. Only 4.0

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread BRM
--- Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: > > Now back on topic, I have never really been a KDE users in the > past. > > I always stuck to openbox or GNOME. However there seems to be a lot > of > > hype around the new KDE and I think I am gonna give it a go. > KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: > Dale wrote: > So yeah anybody in Johannesburg need the sources let me know, will be > downloading them this evening. It's 300-odd M, maybe you wanna come by my office in Randburg and get them off me? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot c

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 22 January 2008, Wayn0 wrote: > Now back on topic, I have never really been a KDE users in the past. > I always stuck to openbox or GNOME. However there seems to be a lot of > hype around the new KDE and I think I am gonna give it a go. KDE 4.0.0 is far from being as feature-rich as 3.5.x. It

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 21 January 2008, Dave Oxley wrote: > I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some > configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather > than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that > switched to it by default now. How do I prevent

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Wayn0
Dale wrote: < Dale says a prayer that it is soon > I feel you pain I was on dial up for many years and until just two years ago! After which I moved to the UK for a short time where I was suddenly paying the for 16mb uncapped as I was for my dial up! I am back in South Africa now and usin

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dale
Jerry McBride wrote: > On Monday 21 January 2008 06:40:42 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: > >> On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:09 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: >>> not quite the same :) "emerge -u world" would download one package,

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 21 January 2008 06:40:42 pm Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:09 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > not quite the same :) "emerge -u world" would download one package, > > > and compile it, download the next, compi

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:09 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > not quite the same :) "emerge -u world" would download one package, and > > compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum > > of the individual down

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Dale wrote: Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp:

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dale
Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: > Dale wrote: >> Iain Buchanan wrote: >>> >>> didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! >>> >>> >> >> Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little >> progress today. >> > Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to /

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 21. Januar 2008, Dave Oxley wrote: > I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some > configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than > the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched > to it by default now. How do I prevent

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/d

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread pu stshine
Hi,everyone,I wanted to install KDE4 and meet a problem like this : emerge kde Linking CXX shared module ../../../../lib/kcm_kwinoptions.so [ 45%] Built target kcm_kwinoptions make: *** [all] Error 2 * * ERROR: kde-base/kdebase-4.0.0 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 1701:

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:33:07 +1100, Dave Oxley wrote: > How do I prevent a --depclean from trying to delete my KDE 3.5 though? grep '^kde-base' /var/lib/portage/world | sed 's/\(.*\)/~\1-3.5.8/' >>/var/lib/portage/world -- Neil Bothwick Suborbital Ballistic-Propulsion Engineer Not Exactly A

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 21 January 2008, Dave Oxley wrote: > I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some > configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than > the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched > to it by default now. For me, kmail does not

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dave Oxley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got KDE4 installed and running mostly fine. It loses some configuration on a log off and on and it shows 2 batteries rather than the 1 which is the only one the laptop has! But other than that switched to it by default now. How do I prevent a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > >> not quite the same :) "emerge -u world" would download one package, and >> compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum >> of the individual downloads and compiles. >> > > Not

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:00:35 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > not quite the same :) "emerge -u world" would download one package, and > compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum > of the individual downloads and compiles. Not if you add parallel-fetch to FEATURES. -

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-21 Thread Graham Murray
Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other > compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least > then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. Or set FEATURES="parallel-fetch" in

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:03 -0600, Dale wrote: > Iain Buchanan wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > > > >> Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new > >> Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes > >> about a week

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote: > On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: > > >> Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new >> Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes >> about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex >>

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! > > Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. >>> Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / >>> Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/dis

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: > Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new > Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes > about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex > and we had cable then. Funny,

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 12:37 -0600, Dale wrote: > >>> Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / > >>> Downloading > 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' > --10:48:22-- > ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 19:50 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > Read Neil's reply. He hit the nail on the finger. That's worthy of sending to Scott Adams! I hope he hit the nail on the (it's) head, not on his finger :) -- Iain Buchanan "ER...HO. HO. HO." -- Death makes a career move

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > > I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while > > I > > > > was napping. I'm here now: > > >>> Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / > > >>> Downloading > > > > 'ftp://ftp.uss

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Justin Findlay wrote: > I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max > throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month > once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest > community fiber network in the country called UTO

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while > I > > was napping. I'm here now: > >>> Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / > >>> Downloading > > 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz >2

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Justin Findlay wrote: > On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL >> does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the >> time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Jerry McBride
> >> Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. > >> Stinking dial-up. :-@ > > > > That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than > > there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: > > > > kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase ta

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: > Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL > does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the > time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for > internet costs. Fu

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: > On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > > >> Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. >> Stinking dial-up. :-@ >> > > On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a > CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. > Stinking dial-up. :-@ On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here.) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: > On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > > >> Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. >> Stinking dial-up. :-@ >> > > That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there > KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: > > kdebase

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. > Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > > >> H, I get this blocker: >> >> [blocks B ] <=x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking >> x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) >> >> Is unmerging qt a good idea? >> > > Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a me

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: > H, I get this blocker: > > [blocks B ] <=x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking > x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) > > Is unmerging qt a good idea? Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a meta package and you have older monolithic ones

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Jerry McBride wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > >> error in ebuild? >> I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the >> ebuild. >> >> Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h >> (with qt4 rebuil

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: > > > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > after the painful and time-consuming creation of > > > > /etc/portage/package.unmask for

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: > On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: > > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > after the painful and time-consuming creation of > > > /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, > > "=kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0" tells me: [blocks B ] > > > > > kde-bas

[REALLY OT] [BEER] Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you > > > ever visit Namibia. ;-) > > > > I may just take you up on that ;-) > > N

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you > > ever visit Namibia. ;-) > > I may just take you up on that ;-) Neil, print that mail off and keep it in a safe place, Uw

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > ??? > > > > According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my > > original post. > > > > Uwe > > I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least > 3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0. Again, I have NO CLU

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever > visit Namibia. ;-) I may just take you up on that ;-) -- Neil Bothwick "Bother" said Pooh when C4 postponed B5 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > [blocks B ] > kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) > > > > I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I > > cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? > > It's <3.5.7, do you h

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Juul
Uwe Thiem schreef: > On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote: > >> hi, >> >> you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that. >> should work :) >> > > ??? > > According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my > original post. > It is blocking older ve

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: > > > ??? > > According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my > original post. > > Uwe > > I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least 3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0. Again, I have NO CLUE why. My question if this is true, wh

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > [blocks B ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) > > I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I > cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? It's <3.5.7, do you have an older version lying around, as well as 3.5.8? O

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > >> Hi folks, > > >> > > >> after the painful and time-consuming creation of > > >> /etc/portage/

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote: > Uwe Thiem wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > after the painful and time-consuming creation of > > /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, > "=kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0" tells me: [blocks B ] > > > kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) > > > > I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Salters
On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uwe Thiem wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> after the painful and time-consuming creation of > >> /etc/portage/package.unmask > >> for KDE 4, >> me: > >> [blocks B

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, me: [blocks B ] I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot unemerge 3

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: > Hi folks, > > after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask > for KDE 4, [blocks B ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0) > > I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot > unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this? > > Uwe