Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread covici
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > > > > I wonder if the original poster is using systemd? > > He already said he isn't. He just was looking for the wrong filename. > > > Also, I find journalctl very clumsy to find things about a specific > > program, such as mail

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > > I wonder if the original poster is using systemd? He already said he isn't. He just was looking for the wrong filename. > Also, I find journalctl very clumsy to find things about a specific > program, such as mail logs or whatever -- unless I am missi

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread covici
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel > wrote: > > > > On 02/09/2015 06:49 AM, Mick wrote: > >> On Monday 09 Feb 2015 11:23:15 Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> You don't have to export them from anything unless you need their > >>> content in a text file. If you just r

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 02/09/2015 08:02 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > Keep in mind that if you're grepping logs, there is probably a better > way to accomplish what you want to do with journalctl's options. > Finding all output from a particular daemon is going to be more > reliable if you filter by unit, versus getting

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Matthias Hanft
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 12:19:20PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> (it's also constantly tailed on vt12, just in case you need to see >> what's going on it right now) > > I didn't know that. Wow! Is this something relatively new, or has it > always been there? I instal

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > On 02/09/2015 06:49 AM, Mick wrote: >> On Monday 09 Feb 2015 11:23:15 Rich Freeman wrote: >>> You don't have to export them from anything unless you need their >>> content in a text file. If you just run "journalctl" that is the >>> equi

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 02/09/2015 06:49 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday 09 Feb 2015 11:23:15 Rich Freeman wrote: >> You don't have to export them from anything unless you need their >> content in a text file. If you just run "journalctl" that is the >> equivalent of typing cat /var/log/messages. If you do want to parse

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Mick
On Monday 09 Feb 2015 11:23:15 Rich Freeman wrote: > You don't have to export them from anything unless you need their > content in a text file. If you just run "journalctl" that is the > equivalent of typing cat /var/log/messages. If you do want to parse > them with an external tool then you get

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:29:24 +, Mick wrote: > I noticed the same on a recent installation. /var/log/syslog is not > created by default any more, when installing syslog-ng. I've using syslog-ng on Gentoo for well over ten years and it's always defaulted to /var/log/messages in that time. Othe

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:23:52 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > No, I've never used systemd either. It's useful to be able to read > /var/log/messages with less, probe it with grep/awk/perl, etc., without > having to learn some special purpose script language. journalctl outputs to less (or whatever

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Mick
On Monday 09 Feb 2015 10:19:20 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 09/02/2015 11:48, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo! > > > > I've pretty much got my new system up and running. It took me less than > > a week (compared with the month it took me when I first installed Gentoo > > a few years ago). T

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan. On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 12:19:20PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 09/02/2015 11:48, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo! > > I've pretty much got my new system up and running. It took me less than > > a week (compared with the month it took me when I first installed Gentoo > > a

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Matthias. On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 11:06:42AM +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Do I actually need to configure the name of a log file in > > /etc/conf.d/syslog-ng? The Gentoo installation guide didn't mention, or > > even hint at, such being necessary. > The names

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > And (from what I have heard) if you use systemd instead of > openrc, there are no syslog files at all - you have to export > them (from some binary database) manually to some human- > readable format. But I don't know much about that - neve

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Adam Carter
One little corner case; if you're running systemd 216 and syslog-ng <3.6, you need to add ForwardToSyslog=yes to /etc/systemd/journald.conf. With systemd 215 and earlier, messages are forwarded to syslog by default, and syslog-ng 3.6 is journald aware.

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/02/2015 11:48, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo! > > I've pretty much got my new system up and running. It took me less than > a week (compared with the month it took me when I first installed Gentoo > a few years ago). The most time consuming bit was getting my email > server (qmail)

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 11:06:42 +0100, Matthias Hanft wrote: > > Do I actually need to configure the name of a log file in > > /etc/conf.d/syslog-ng? The Gentoo installation guide didn't mention, > > or even hint at, such being necessary. > > The names of the log files (and much more) are configu

Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please!

2015-02-09 Thread Matthias Hanft
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Do I actually need to configure the name of a log file in > /etc/conf.d/syslog-ng? The Gentoo installation guide didn't mention, or > even hint at, such being necessary. The names of the log files (and much more) are configured in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf - since I