Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Jeremy Olexa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > Ryan - - > > Thanks for the links - > > Is that info also accessable on the web some place, since I cant print > from linux based systems, and especially cant under the live CD? > > I will be most interested to read it,

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Wed, 31 May 2006 14:33:38 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > > > >>I will be most interested to read it, but the manpage reader is horrible >>to try to work from >> >> > >If you use KDE, press Alt-F2 and type '#portage' to get an HTML version >of the man page. Or you

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Daniel da Veiga wrote: > >> >> >> Neil: >> >> the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags >> worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The >> procedure that I used last time was: >> >> rebuild the kernel >> Set use to USE="-*" >> Emerge -e world

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread kashani
Ryan Tandy wrote: Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). Wrong. The correct sentiment should be "I am not in the least c

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installe

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 14:33:38 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > I will be most interested to read it, but the manpage reader is horrible > to try to work from If you use KDE, press Alt-F2 and type '#portage' to get an HTML version of the man page. Or you could use man2html to convert individual ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Ryan Tandy
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: OOPS _- that should be RYAN -- SORRY -- I got fumble fingered Everyone does it the first time. :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
> > [Timothy A. Holmes] > > Randy: > > That may be, however, I have seen far to many complaints about > instability in the hardened systems to be comfortable using them in a > production environment. Another user here in my area is working to [Timothy A. Holmes] OOPS _- that should be RYAN

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Ra > -Original Message- > From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:08 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer > > Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > > I have r

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
> -Original Message- > From: Ryan Tandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:11 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer > > Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > > At thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Ryan Tandy
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: At this point then, I am going to actually build a second box for snort perhaps using the hardened sources (I am not in the least comfortable with running hardened on a production box). Wrong. The correct sentiment should be "I am not in the least comfortable with run

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Ryan Tandy
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: I have read the wiki document about the USE flags, and I refer to that chart routinely as I am trying to construct these statements. http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml This is the document that I have been using, if there is a better one available on the web, I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Rumen Yotov
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Compute

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:01:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > the problem before was an incomplete understanding of how the USE Flags > worked, and a mis-understanding of some advice that I was given. The > procedure that I used last time was: > > rebuild the kernel Fine > Set use to USE="-*"

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
> -Original Message- > From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:57 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer > > On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Ti

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 10:46:18 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > I was hoping to > rescue the additional time for the snort install etc by being able to > just recompile stuff rather than have to start over from the beginning, > the system is currently running, so I may just end up putting off the >

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
> On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Neil - > > > > I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted > > shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and > > the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Michael Crute
On 5/31/06, Timothy A. Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Neil - I understand your suggestion -- I used the installer as an attempted shortcut after having done several (5+) installs via the basic disk and the handbook. I have paid for that error in spades - believe me -- since then I have done

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
> -Original Message- > From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:41 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer > > On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0400, Ti

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:53:05 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > I am rapidly getting the idea that either leaving the system alone, or > just wiping it out and starting over is going to be preferable to trying > to repair this one, since no one can seem to tell me if it can be done. > My original t

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
> On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > > > Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as > > BASE requires it. > > dev-lang/php is not a valid USE flag, php is. > > If a program installed via portage requires php, portage will install it > as

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff as > BASE requires it. dev-lang/php is not a valid USE flag, php is. If a program installed via portage requires php, portage will install it as a dependency of th

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:29:49 -0400 "Timothy A. Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raymond - the dev-lang/php use flag is there to pull in the PHP stuff > as BASE requires it. What makes you think there's a) a slash-notation in USE flags b) this specific USE flag? "dev-lang/php" really look

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
I believe you're looking for the 'php' USE flag. dev-lang/php is not a USE flag it's the php package. As I stated previously, mmx is not set by default, so '-mmx' is redundant. On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:59, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > > [Timothy A. Holmes] > > > Raymond - the dev-lang/php use

RE: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
> -Original Message- > From: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:22 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer > > On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31, Ti

Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstructing a Gentoo Installer Computer

2006-05-31 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:31, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: > Hi folks: > > A few months back, I went through a phase where I built several > computers via the gentoo installer disk, they work, but they are not as > well optimized as I would like. I have successfully destroyed 5 of them > trying to