Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/08/2015 20:28, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, August 06, 2015 02:59:09 PM Mick wrote: >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, August 06, 2015 02:59:09 PM Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: > > >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > >>> Much of what m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-06 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 22:47:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: > >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent > >>> year

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:47:58 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years > so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do > something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP: It may be that in recent year

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2015 23:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: >> On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years >>> so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 06:20:17 PM Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years > > so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do > > something useful. I'm reminded o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 12:47:58 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 05/08/2015 10:18, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > >>> > > In this context does '&hostname' mean a-pointer-to-a-pointer-to-the- > >>> > > charstring we actually need? > >>> > > > >>> > > Doesn't this code seem needlessly complicated? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2015 19:20, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years >> so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do >> something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 05 Aug 2015 11:47:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Much of what makes programming work has been dumbed down in recent years > so that employable persons without imagination[1] can have jobs and do > something useful. I'm reminded of an old saw about PHP: > > The nice thing about php is it le

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2015 10:18, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > You can look at it like that, but more technically it's because C doesn't > support out arguments, or reference arguments, or objects. All arguments are > passed by value. You can return multiple values in a struct but it's not very > convenient b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-05 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:18:07 AM Franz Fellner wrote: > walt wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:19:37 +0200 > > Franz Fellner wrote: > > > > > Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > > On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote: > > > > > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then t

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-04 Thread Franz Fellner
walt wrote: > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 08:19:37 +0200 > Franz Fellner wrote: > > > Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote: > > > > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then the statement > > > > below proceeds to assign a value to the 'constant'. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-04 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:56 PM, walt wrote: > Let me give you one more example of syntax that I find unreasonable, > and then I'll ask my *real* question, about which I hope you will have > opinions. > > Okay, the statement I referred to above uses this notation: > > if (!link->network->hostname)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-03 Thread Franz Fellner
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote: > > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then the statement below > > proceeds to assign a value to the 'constant'. I wonder how many hours > > of frustration have been suffered by student programmers while try

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior [FIXED]

2015-08-03 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Monday, August 03, 2015 6:41:22 PM walt wrote: > That line declares *hostname as a constant and then the statement below > proceeds to assign a value to the 'constant'. I wonder how many hours > of frustration have been suffered by student programmers while trying to > understand the logic behi