Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:37:24 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > > If you have the disk space to spare, set FEATURES="buildpkg". Then > > reinstalling a package is as quick as with a binary distro. > The further complication there is that in this hypothetical situation > you are also likely to be changing

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 21:45:21 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:11:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > No, that still doesn't work. When the user unmerges kde-meta, with your > > proposal it will unmerge X11. The next step is that the user emerges > > gnome which first emerges X

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:11:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > No, that still doesn't work. When the user unmerges kde-meta, with your > proposal it will unmerge X11. The next step is that the user emerges > gnome which first emerges X11 back again. Except i this example you are likely to install GNO

Re[4]: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:11:39 +0200 Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AM> On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:29 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: AM> > AM> > Hmm, it can be done with "garbage collector principe". Each AM> > package will have counter which increases when some package which AM> > depend o

Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 18:29 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > NR> new system, no gui installed. > NR> > NR> I install kde-meta, which installs xorg-x11 as a dependency. > NR> > NR> I decide I want gnome, I install gnome which doesn't install xorg, > NR> because it is already installed. > NR> > NR

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:29, Robert Cernansky wrote: > Hmm, it can be done with "garbage collector principe". Each > package will have counter which increases when some package which depend on > it is installed. Decreased, when the package is uninstalled. If counter is > zero, "dependency" packag

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-04 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 09:37:45 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NR> NR> On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:30:39 +0100 NR> Graham Murray wrote: NR> NR> > Maybe what is needed is an enhancement to portage to allow the removal NR> > of a meta-package to (optionally) also remove the 'real' packages NR>

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-03 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:39, Matthew R. Lee wrote: > On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > > On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg > > > stuff. > > > > > > You can grab a list of all modular

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-03 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:30:39 +0100 Graham Murray wrote: > "W.Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg > > modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless > > you keep an independent record of eve

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Graham Murray wrote: > Maybe what is needed is an enhancement to portage to allow the removal > of a meta-package to (optionally) also remove the 'real' packages > which it caused to be installed. Heard of emerge --depclean? Use it with care, though. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: O

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Graham Murray
"W.Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg > modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless > you keep an independent record of every package installed. I was pissed > because modular didnt work and

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 07:05:19 +0800 W.Kenworthy wrote: > yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg > modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless > you keep an independent record of every package installed. Wouldn't genlop give you that i

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread W.Kenworthy
yes I hit it too - back before it hit stable. It seemed that going xorg modular is a one way trip as you cant remove modular xorg easily unless you keep an independent record of every package installed. I was pissed because modular didnt work and I couldnt uninstall it! Eventually updates caught

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 23:39, Matthew R. Lee wrote: > On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > > On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg > > > stuff. > > > > > > You can grab a list of all modular

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthew R. Lee wrote: > On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: >> On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. >>> >>> You can grab a list of all modular X packages at >>> http://www.gentoo.org/pr

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Sunday 02 July 2006 17:00, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. > > > > You can grab a list of all modular X packages at > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modul

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:53, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > That's gonna remove lots of non-xorg stuff, and not catch all xorg stuff. > > You can grab a list of all modular X packages at > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-packages.txt and > run this: > > emerge -1 $( pgp20JWrOPOKi.

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> tried another emerge --sync to see if that would fix the problem but no >>> joy. So the question is, how do I force portage to down load and >>> recompile the packages from scratch? >> You could try `emerge -ep x

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > tried another emerge --sync to see if that would fix the problem but no > > joy.   So the question is, how do I force portage to down load and > > recompile the packages from scratch? > > You could try `emerge -ep xorg-x11`. I guess what I w

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 22:24, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > That's a definite possibility. But I don't _think_ everyone encountering > this problem has hit it, although I could be wrong. nichoj experienced a similar thing with java-config-1.2 vs. java-config-wrapper. It wasn't many but there were a fe

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > When user upgrades to modular X.org there is a block that requires him to > remove xorg-x11-6.8*. Then the user upgrades, reboots and finds out there is > something wrong. So he downgrades. But when downgrading there is no block > requiring him to remove modular X fir

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 02 July 2006 21:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Matthew R. Lee wrote: > > is done. I wasn't convinced, however I tried rebooting. No X, so I > > logged in and issued 'startx', nothing so I checked '/usr/bin/startx', > > it's not there, clearly it hadn't installed x So back to > > xorg-x11

Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthew R. Lee wrote: > is done. I wasn't convinced, however I tried rebooting. No X, so I logged > in and issued 'startx', nothing so I checked '/usr/bin/startx', it's not > there, clearly it hadn't installed x So back to xorg-x11-6.8.2.-r8. I've This is a really weird issue that's been co

[gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Matthew R. Lee
I upgraded my xorg-x11 the other day. I followed the upgrade how-to, and everything seemed to go fine. However when I rebooted it was screwed up. The xorg.conf was a mess. I tried fixing it from memory but I couldn't sort it, and I'd forgoten to make a back up MY FAULT. Anyway I downgraded