Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
> On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:43 bn wrote:
>>> If you use Ubuntu, you've got to accept their eccentric & questionable
>>> attitude to passwords, esp that they don't have a separate root password.
>>> I find that a piece of cheap popularisation contrary to UNIX principles.
On Monday 18 May 2009 22:14:43 bn wrote:
> > If you use Ubuntu, you've got to accept their eccentric & questionable
> > attitude to passwords, esp that they don't have a separate root password.
> > I find that a piece of cheap popularisation contrary to UNIX principles.
Huh?
The package you are t
Philip Webb ha scritto:
> 090518 bn wrote:
>> Philip Webb ha scritto:
>>> With binary distros, you are stuck with whatever their makers give you.
>> whatever distro you're using, Linux is Linux. You're not locked out.
>> If my xorg.conf doesn't work (it happened with Ubuntu),
>> I can edit it on Ub
Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> Genuine analysis of Gentoo machines admined by someone who knows how to do it
> should that the machine can easily have only the features and software on it
> that the admin say it should have. Like LDAP - not everyone needs it. On a
> binary distro, if the maintainer su
On Monday 18 May 2009 19:59:14 William Hubbs wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:39:48PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Monday 18 May 2009 19:12:22 William Hubbs wrote:
> > > Another difference is that, since you are compiling everything from
> > > source, with the correct CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS s
William Hubbs wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:42:54PM +0100, bn wrote:
> > So, I would really want to understand where the Gentoo flexibility beats
> > down a binary distro.
>
> > Don't get me wrong -I like Gentoo. Really. But the claim that a binary
> > distro is "unfixable" just because I had
090518 bn wrote:
> Philip Webb ha scritto:
>> With binary distros, you are stuck with whatever their makers give you.
> whatever distro you're using, Linux is Linux. You're not locked out.
> If my xorg.conf doesn't work (it happened with Ubuntu),
> I can edit it on Ubuntu just like on Gentoo.
> I c
On Monday 18 May 2009 19:12:22 William Hubbs wrote:
> Another difference is that, since you are compiling everything from
> source, with the correct CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS settings in make.conf, you
> can optimize the binaries you produce to take full advantage of your
> processor, which you can't do
On Monday 18 May 2009 18:42:54 bn wrote:
> But anyway you have packages in Gentoo or in Ubuntu: in Gentoo you are
> stuck with what whatever the packagers give you the same. You probably
> have more versions available and some more flexibility, but that's it.
>
> So, I would really want to understa
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On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:42:54PM +0100, bn wrote:
> So, I would really want to understand where the Gentoo flexibility beats
> down a binary distro.
>
> Don't get me wrong -I like Gentoo. Really. But the claim that a binary
> distro is "unfixable" j
Philip Webb ha scritto:
> 090518 bn wrote:
>> Philip Webb ha scritto:
>>> Hopefully, the OP has got some useful hints out of all this ...
>> Yes. I'm kinda considering switching to Ubuntu.
>> I love Gentoo, it's almost 4 years I'm using it, but I need this laptop
>> to *work*, and I cannot afford t
090518 bn wrote:
> Philip Webb ha scritto:
>> Hopefully, the OP has got some useful hints out of all this ...
> Yes. I'm kinda considering switching to Ubuntu.
> I love Gentoo, it's almost 4 years I'm using it, but I need this laptop
> to *work*, and I cannot afford to be consistently bitten by suc
Philip Webb ha scritto:
> 090518 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>>> The blurb tells me nothing, but if I follow its advice, I do get :
>> I said there was help, I didn't claim it was helpful :)
>> I got bitten by this one a while ago on a box using a
090518 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> The blurb tells me nothing, but if I follow its advice, I do get :
> I said there was help, I didn't claim it was helpful :)
> I got bitten by this one a while ago on a box using a mixture
> of SATA and PATA dis
On Mon, 18 May 2009 07:29:00 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> > Of course there's help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?.
>
> Yes (red face). However, the crucial option here was ATA_SFF ,
> for which 'make oldconfig' gives :
>
> ATA SFF support (ATA_SFF) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ?
>
> This option
090517 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> 'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help:
>> it's just a list of "Do you want to ... ?" which you can't save easily.
> Of course there's help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?.
Ye
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>
>
>> 'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help:
>> it's just a list of "Do you want to ... ?" which you can't save easily.
>>
>
> Of course there;s help. Most options give a choice of y/n
On Sun, 17 May 2009 12:18:14 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> 'make oldconfig' is the usual recommendation, but there's no help:
> it's just a list of "Do you want to ... ?" which you can't save easily.
Of course there;s help. Most options give a choice of y/n/m/?. Guess what
happens when you press?
090517 bn wrote:
> What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of
> when upgrading to latest kernel? I resume this thread
> because I read of things like "/dev/sr0 has disappeared"
>> & "You need to enable this to make CONFIG_PATA_JMICRON visible.
>> ... THAT's what happened to it !! T
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 16:46 +0100, bn wrote:
> So, what kind of traps like that should I expect?
I expect things like that to have potentially changed with every point
release of the 2.6 kernel, since the numbering scheme is practically
useless now. Every 2.6.XX release has the potential for majo
bn ha scritto:
> 2) What are the caveats and pitfalls I should be aware of when upgrading
> to latest kernel? I confess that reading CHANGELOGs didn't help me too
> much, quite confusing.
I resume this thread because I read ofthings like that ("/dev/sr0 has
disappeared" thread):
"> You need to ena
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:14 PM, bn wrote:
> Yes, but this means recompiling all external modules (nvidia, madwifi)
> every time I boot in a new kernel if I want them to work, isn't it?
I think those modules get installed into kernel-version-specific
directories in /lib/modules so that may not be
Adam Carter ha scritto:
>> Now I want to ask the list:
>> 1) Does anyone have a recent kernel config for this kind of machine?
>
> Just copy your .config file to the new kernel source directory and run "make
> oldconfig". This runs through the old config file and prompts you to select
> what you
> My Gentoo laptop is a Macbook Pro SantaRosa (late 2007, probably
> MA896LL/A , following wikipedia). Since I use it for work I've always
> been quite conservative with it... it is an x86 machine and I upgrade
> things only after having read things here and there on the ML and
> possibly elsewhere
Hi,
My Gentoo laptop is a Macbook Pro SantaRosa (late 2007, probably
MA896LL/A , following wikipedia). Since I use it for work I've always
been quite conservative with it... it is an x86 machine and I upgrade
things only after having read things here and there on the ML and
possibly elsewhere (Sti
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