Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag, 17. August 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same slowdowns. Could this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 17. August 2008, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: > >> I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same > > > > slowdowns. Could > > > >> this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using > > > > 2.6.23 but the > > > >> 2.6.25

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same slowdowns. Could this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using 2.6.23 but the 2.6.25 kernel does this slow thing. It started in 2.6.24 ra

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 16 August 2008 23:40:21 Dale wrote: > I use 3.5.9 and with a newer kernel, I get the same slowdowns. Could > this me something to do with the kernel? I'm using 2.6.23 but the > 2.6.25 kernel does this slow thing. It started in 2.6.24 range. what video card do you have? -- alan

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't use compiz ;) and people have reported slowdowns even with kde3.5.9 - with 4.1 it is just much severe. And when I say 'severe' I talk about lagging for several seconds between 'key pressed' and 'sign appears on screen'. Or 'mouse button pressed' and 'desk

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 16. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 15 August 2008 15:41:04 Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D > > stuff that cripples the > > > > performance, and on a desktop, 2D i

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 16 August 2008 03:57:42 b.n. wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: > > In short: all 8XXX chips are bad. Because of the thermal environment > > laptops are on a different place of the bell curve than desktops. Laptops > > with nvidia graphic are failing left and right. Whole seri

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 15:41:04 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the > > performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. > > AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX s

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 16. August 2008, b.n. wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: > > In short: all 8XXX chips are bad. Because of the thermal environment > > laptops are on a different place of the bell curve than desktops. Laptops > > with nvidia graphic are failing left and right. Whole series of HP,

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread b.n.
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: In short: all 8XXX chips are bad. Because of the thermal environment laptops are on a different place of the bell curve than desktops. Laptops with nvidia graphic are failing left and right. Whole series of HP, Dell, Asus, laptops are walking ghosts. Desktops mi

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Roy Wright
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the >> performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. > > AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX series doesn't really have 2d hardware

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Oddly enough, 3D is very very snappy. It's the 2D stuff that cripples the > performance, and on a desktop, 2D is exactly what you want. AFAIK the problem is that the 8XXX series doesn't really have 2d hardware anymore - everything is done in t

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 14:14:16 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > that their drivers for the 8XXX and 9XXX series suck (on win and lin) is > only one of their problems. I wasn't aware that there was a problem with the windows drivers. I thought the suckiness on linux came mostly from the X architec

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 14:19:14 b.n. wrote: > Oh s**t. Thank you. Go figure I bought that MBP last year also because > of its nVidia card... I feel your pain, I'm in exactly the same position. I specifically bought this laptop because of the nVidia card and my bad experiences with ATI binary d

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 15 August 2008 12:49:26 b.n. wrote: > > Alan McKinnon ha scritto: > > > > This is the second thread in a few days that reports problems with > > nVidia cards. > > > > Owning a 3rd generation Macbook Pro (nVidia Geforce 8600M GT) with > >

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: On Friday 15 August 2008 12:49:26 b.n. wrote: Alan McKinnon ha scritto: This is the second thread in a few days that reports problems with nVidia cards. Owning a 3rd generation Macbook Pro (nVidia Geforce 8600M GT) with Gentoo on, I'm a bit worried. I never noticed

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 15 August 2008 11:51:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > > any reason why you use an unreleased X? There are no ne

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 12:49:26 b.n. wrote: > Alan McKinnon ha scritto: > This is the second thread in a few days that reports problems with > nVidia cards. > > Owning a 3rd generation Macbook Pro (nVidia Geforce 8600M GT) with > Gentoo on, I'm a bit worried. I never noticed significant problems

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 11:51:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > > any reason why you use an unreleased X? There are no new features or > > > improvements. And KDE works fine with

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) nvidia OpenGL xorg-ser

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Maybe someone here has seen this before: > > > > > > amd64 > > > 2.6.26-gentoo > > > KDE-4.1 > > > nVidia

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 10:26:39 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Maybe someone here has seen this before: > > > > amd64 > > 2.6.26-gentoo > > KDE-4.1 > > nVidia 8600M GT > > nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) > > nvidia OpenG

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 15. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Hi all, > > Maybe someone here has seen this before: > > amd64 > 2.6.26-gentoo > KDE-4.1 > nVidia 8600M GT > nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) > nvidia OpenGL > xorg-server-1.4.99.906 any reason why you use an unreleased X? There are no new

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 09:29:42 Dirk Uys wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 15 August 2008 09:12:06 Dirk Uys wrote: > >> I don't know about the bug, but screen can safe you the hassle of > >> having to open all your sessions again? >

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Dirk Uys
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 15 August 2008 09:12:06 Dirk Uys wrote: > >> I don't know about the bug, but screen can safe you the hassle of >> having to open all your sessions again? > > Screen is indeed god's gift to sysadmins, it's almost a

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 August 2008 09:12:06 Dirk Uys wrote: > I don't know about the bug, but screen can safe you the hassle of > having to open all your sessions again? Screen is indeed god's gift to sysadmins, it's almost as useful as bash :-) I do use it a lot, and for more and better reasons than just

Re: [gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-15 Thread Dirk Uys
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Maybe someone here has seen this before: > > amd64 > 2.6.26-gentoo > KDE-4.1 > nVidia 8600M GT > nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) > nvidia OpenGL > xorg-server-1.4.99.906 > > Yes, it's bleeding-edge :-) T

[gentoo-user] kwin-4.1 sometimes leaves konsole undecorated

2008-08-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all, Maybe someone here has seen this before: amd64 2.6.26-gentoo KDE-4.1 nVidia 8600M GT nvidia-drivers-177.13 (latest unstable) nvidia OpenGL xorg-server-1.4.99.906 Yes, it's bleeding-edge :-) This is in an effort to get some performance out of what should be a very decent video card. It