Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:28:26 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Nothing as clever as that. I simply > > echo "cat/pkg" >>/etc/portage/sets/temp > > and have @temp in /var/lib/portage/world_sets > > Each week I look at the set and decide what should be removed or > transferred to world. That brought

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:29:01 +0600, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > > Incidentally, I almost always install software with --oneshot. That > > way the programs I install to try out show up on --depclean's output > > until I decide I want to keep them. It prevents accumulating cruft > > from various experim

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:39:55 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Incidentally, I almost always install software with --oneshot. That way > the programs I install to try out show up on --depclean's output until I > decide I want to keep them. It prevents accumulating cruft from various > experiments, alt

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Dale wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays >>> all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but >>> I >>> haven't found one, and

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays >> all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I >> haven't found one, and prefer the manual approach above. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Murray
Dale writes: > I know you can use eix-test-obsolete to find outdated/unneeded thing in > /etc/portage but I wish it would also do something similiar for the > world file. I just wonder if the person that wrote eix and friends > could add that in as a feature? It would be neat. eix works really

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Sebastian Günther schrieb am 26.04.2009 19:55: > * Alan McKinnon (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) [26.04.09 18:49]: >> It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays >> all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but >> I >> haven't found one, a

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Alan McKinnon (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) [26.04.09 18:49]: > > It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays > all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I > haven't found one, and prefer the manual approach above. > #!/bin/bash

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays > all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I > haven't found one, and prefer the manual approach above. > > > I know you can use eix-test-obsolete to find o

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 26 April 2009 08:40:39 John covici wrote: > OK, so this brings up the question, how do I make sure (if there is a > way to do so) that my world file does not contain anything which it > should not -- I am sure I have made the mistake of forgetting to put > the -1, so it would be interesti

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread John covici
on Saturday 04/25/2009 Alan McKinnon(alan.mckin...@gmail.com) wrote > On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:52:28 Michael P. Soulier wrote: > > On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: > > > app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything > > > right now. > > > > So, I just unmerg

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 26 April 2009 05:39:52 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:27:08PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > And from experience, I can tell you it happens when you don't use that > > -1 option when you should. You can end up with a HUGE world file when > > not using that opton to just re

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:39:52 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > I am probably in that very situation. My world file is 5794 lines > long. I didn't know about -1 and frankly don't understand it. If I > remerge a package which is not in world, why is it added to world? I > had seen a few vague re

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Philip Webb
090425 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > My world file is 5794 lines long. Well, it's true there are 13 465 pkgs in Gentoo (as of yesterday), but I have only 538 installed & only 65 in 'world'. Yes, I use '-1' frequently ... (grin) -- ,,

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:39:52 -0700 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: > I am probably in that very situation. My world file is 5794 lines > long. I didn't know about -1 and frankly don't understand it. If I > remerge a package which is not in world, why is it added to world? I > had seen a few vague ref

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread felix
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:27:08PM -0500, Dale wrote: > And from experience, I can tell you it happens when you don't use that > -1 option when you should. You can end up with a HUGE world file when > not using that opton to just rebuild something for some reason or other. I am probably in that v

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:52:28 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > > >> I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. >> > > You had both poppler and poppler-bindings in world. What you saw was one > of the effects of a world file polluted by packages that

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:52:28 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. You had both poppler and poppler-bindings in world. What you saw was one of the effects of a world file polluted by packages that should only ever be installed as dependenc

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Incidentally, poppler has a long and fine history of insanely breaking users' > configs every time its developers sneeze. The number of times I've had > poppler > show up in revdep-rebuild output defies any kind of sane, logical, rational > description. Not even Microso

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:14:23 -0400 "Michael P. Soulier" wrote: > On 26/04/09 Mike Kazantsev said: > > > And note that >=sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically > > - without user (your) intervention. > > sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7 > > Will that go stable soon? I've yet to see any b

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:52:28 Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: > > app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything > > right now. > > So, I just unmerged them and now my upgrade path looks good. > > I'm not sure what pulled in those newe

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: > app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything right > now. So, I just unmerged them and now my upgrade path looks good. I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fo

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: > So, luatex and xpdf require poppler 0.10.4, but app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 is > already installed. I guess xpdf and luatex can't handle the newer poppler > version for some reason? It's actually trying to downgrade poppler and > poppler-bindings for some reas

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Justin said: > It tells you what todo: > > emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 > > with USE="gtk cairo" > > check that if it solves the problem Ok, I rebuilt app-text/poppler-bindings with USE="gtk cairo", and I removed app-text/poppler-bindings from world. Now I get this msoul.

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:17:52 Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 25/04/09 Neil Bothwick said: > > And remove poppler-bindings from world. > > Ok, and will prevent it from being considered during my next world update, > as I understand it. Can you explain why that's a good thing? No, it just takes

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Neil Bothwick said: > And remove poppler-bindings from world. Ok, and will prevent it from being considered during my next world update, as I understand it. Can you explain why that's a good thing? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Justin said: > It tells you what todo: > > emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 > > with USE="gtk cairo" > > check that if it solves the problem msoul...@anton:~$ USE="gtk cairo" sudo emerge --pretend app-text/poppler-bindings These are the packages that would be merged, in

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 26/04/09 Mike Kazantsev said: > And note that >=sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically > - without user (your) intervention. sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7 Will that go stable soon? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:48:51 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > And remove poppler-bindings from world. And note that >=sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically - without user (your) intervention. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:32:30 +0200, Justin wrote: > > ('ebuild', '/', 'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1', 'merge') > > pulled in by app-text/poppler-bindings required by world > > > > Explanation: > > > > New USE for 'app-text/poppler-bindings:0' are incorrectly set. In > > order

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Justin
Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm trying to understand the explanation of this but I don't quite see it. It looks like conflicting libraries used by gimp, inkscape and openoffice. I don't quite understand the explanation, and what my options are. Translation appreciated. Thanks, Mike msoul...@

[gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
I'm trying to understand the explanation of this but I don't quite see it. It looks like conflicting libraries used by gimp, inkscape and openoffice. I don't quite understand the explanation, and what my options are. Translation appreciated. Thanks, Mike msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --u