On 2/5/19 10:55 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
Yeah, I think you're over-reading into my posts. I'm mostly reacting
to your ideas and not trying to be prescriptive.
So we have a feedback loop. I'm trying to understand why you're saying
what you're saying.
I'm still looking for possibilities and p
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 7:10 PM Grant Taylor
wrote:
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> On 02/04/2019 02:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > So, I think we're miscommunicating a bit here...
>
> It happens.
>
Yeah, I think you're over-reading into my posts. I'm mostly reacting
to your ideas and not trying to be prescriptive.
For exa
On 2/4/19 3:50 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 02/03/2019 11:23 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> Ultimately netifrc is just a shell script that parses another shell
>> script to construct a third shell script. I don't think doing it with
>> only two shell scripts is that much less elegant =)
>
> The
On 02/04/2019 02:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
So, I think we're miscommunicating a bit here...
It happens.
I'm saying that an init.d script shouldn't try to do anything other
than initialize a service, which should be implemented outside the
init.d script.
It sounds like you are saying that
On 2/4/19 5:10 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
Consider the following commands to start the ""container:
ip netns add myContainer
ip link add myContainer type veth peer name myHost netns myContainer
ip link set myContainer up
ip addr add 192.0.2.1/24 dev myContainer
ip netns exec myContainer ip link set
So, I think we're miscommunicating a bit here...
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:10 PM Grant Taylor
wrote:
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> On 02/04/2019 11:55 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > IMO I would separate your container logic from your service manager logic.
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "container logic" vs "servic
On 02/04/2019 11:55 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
IMO I would separate your container logic from your service manager logic.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "container logic" vs "service
manager logic" and how they differ. I'm assuming that the former
creates / destroys the container and tha
On 02/03/2019 11:23 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
Ultimately netifrc is just a shell script that parses another shell
script to construct a third shell script. I don't think doing it with
only two shell scripts is that much less elegant =)
The elegance, or lack there of, is not in the number of
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:44 PM Grant Taylor
wrote:
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> I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to be better off writing new scripts
> that will match existing init scripts and their methodology to
> (re)start/stop namespaces / containers / jails. Perhaps firejail will
> give me what I want or provide
On 02/04/2019 09:23 AM, Laurence Perkins wrote:
Have you tried firejail? It gives you convenient ways to set up the
container parameters consistently and is in the repo.
No, I have not. Thank you for the pointer.
Its invocation is also simple enough to not clutter up your startup
scripts.
On Sat, 2019-02-02 at 19:32 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote:
> Does Gentoo have any support for VRFs or (chroot) Jails or
> Containers
> without going down the Docker (et al) path?
>
> I'm wanting to do some things with a Gentoo router that is trivial to
> do
> with network namespaces via manual co
On 2/3/19 12:39 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 2/3/19 6:26 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
You can add commands to your existing network configuration that will be
run when an interface comes up. For example, in /etc/conf.d/net,
ifup_wlan0="iwconfig \$int key s:secretkey enc open essid foobar"
Ya
On 2/3/19 6:26 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
You can add commands to your existing network configuration that will be
run when an interface comes up. For example, in /etc/conf.d/net,
ifup_wlan0="iwconfig \$int key s:secretkey enc open essid foobar"
Ya I find that to be an absolute kludg
On 2/3/19 1:50 AM, Alarig Le Lay wrote:
For the VRF part, Gentoo supports it; it’s in the upstream kernel
sources.
Yep. I've been doing Network Namespaces, and VRF to a lesser degree,
for quite a while now. It's just all been manual or ad-hock scripts.
I only tried it once, but failed beca
On 2/2/19 11:09 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
I am unclear on what you are trying to do.
See my reply to Rich's message for a description.
I find the gentoo scripts good for the simple case but a complex case
almost always needs extra help.
Yep.
I was hoping that there was something that I was
On 2/3/19 5:37 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
Nothing wrong with that approach. I use systemd-nspawn to run a bunch
of containers, hosted in Gentoo, and many of which run Gentoo. However,
these all run systemd and I don't believe you can run nspawn without a
systemd host (the guest/container can be
On 2/2/19 10:56 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 2/2/19 7:36 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
LXC containers ??
Maybe.
I just feel like that's more heavy weight than I want.
I'm functionally running a series of ip commands to configure networking
in a special way.
You can add commands to your existing
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 11:52 PM Grant Taylor
wrote:
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> On 2/2/19 9:39 PM, Michael Jones wrote:
> > systemd-nspawn is also an option, but I don't think that'll work with
> > OpenRC.
>
> Ya I moved (back to) Gentoo to get away from systemd. I'm not
> going to voluntarily opt to use it, or any
For the VRF part, Gentoo supports it; it’s in the upstream kernel
sources.
I only tried it once, but failed because my sshd should have been lunch
in my VRF and I didn’t quickly find a way to do it.
But otherwise, it worked.
--
Alarig
On 3/2/19 12:52 pm, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 2/2/19 9:39 PM, Michael Jones wrote:
>> systemd-nspawn is also an option, but I don't think that'll work with
>> OpenRC.
>
> Ya I moved (back to) Gentoo to get away from systemd. I'm not
> going to voluntarily opt to use it, or any of it's children
On 2/2/19 9:39 PM, Michael Jones wrote:
systemd-nspawn is also an option, but I don't think that'll work with
OpenRC.
Ya I moved (back to) Gentoo to get away from systemd. I'm not
going to voluntarily opt to use it, or any of it's children. That's
/my/ opinion. I know others opinions
systemd-nspawn is also an option, but I don't think that'll work with
OpenRC.
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 9:56 PM Grant Taylor <
gtay...@gentoo.tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> On 2/2/19 7:36 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> > LXC containers ??
>
> Maybe.
>
> I just feel like that's more heavy weight than I wa
On 2/2/19 7:36 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
LXC containers ??
Maybe.
I just feel like that's more heavy weight than I want.
I'm functionally running a series of ip commands to configure networking
in a special way.
Maybe I should look into what it takes to extend netifrc to support what
I wa
On 3/2/19 10:32 am, Grant Taylor wrote:
> Does Gentoo have any support for VRFs or (chroot) Jails or Containers
> without going down the Docker (et al) path?
>
> I'm wanting to do some things with a Gentoo router that is trivial to
> do with network namespaces via manual commands ~> scripts. But t
Does Gentoo have any support for VRFs or (chroot) Jails or Containers
without going down the Docker (et al) path?
I'm wanting to do some things with a Gentoo router that is trivial to do
with network namespaces via manual commands ~> scripts. But that's far
from standard Gentoo init script ba
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