Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 13:07, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:32:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > >> emerge --sync X number of times daily in a cron >> >> emerge -avuND world deliberately and manually as the sysadmin at your >> leisure. >> >> Two different actions in time. > > Assume yo

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:07:10 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > emerge --sync X number of times daily in a cron > > > > emerge -avuND world deliberately and manually as the sysadmin at your > > leisure. > > > > Two different actions in time. > > Assume you sync once a day, and update once a week

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:32:46AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > emerge --sync X number of times daily in a cron > > emerge -avuND world deliberately and manually as the sysadmin at your > leisure. > > Two different actions in time. Assume you sync once a day, and update once a week, the first

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 03:23, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote >> On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> >>>What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for >>> the emerge update process? >> >> It's the principle of least privil

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 01:57, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote > >> As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage >> throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. > > How "recent"? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote >> On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: >> > >> >What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for >> > the emerge update process? >> >> It's the principle

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 11/02/2014 01:23, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the principle of least privilege. Is there a

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote > On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > >What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for > > the emerge update process? > > It's the principle of least privilege. Is there any specific reason for > por

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 20:30, Kerin Millar wrote: On 10/02/2014 16:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree.

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How "recent"? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see that

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Tue, 11 February 2014, at 12:05 am, Stroller wrote: > On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 11:57 pm, Walter Dnes > wrote: >>> ... >>> There is no subsequent requirement not to invoke emerge --sync as root. >> >> What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for >> the emerge u

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 11:57 pm, Walter Dnes wrote: >> ... >> There is no subsequent requirement not to invoke emerge --sync as root. > > What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for > the emerge update process? To reduce the number of times the user has to ent

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote > As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage > throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How "recent"? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see that the email file suffix changed from ".d5

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 19:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/02/2014 21:03, Walter Dnes wrote: >On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote >> >>On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov wrote: >> >>>Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. >> >>I'd really rather not. Th

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 16:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. User is in the portage group: $ whoam

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 19:03, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group "portage" is not enough.

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/02/2014 21:03, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote >> >> On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov >> wrote: >> >>> Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. >> >> I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. > > Being in group "port

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote > > On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov > wrote: > > > Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. > > I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group "portage" is not enough. That merely lets you do emer

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/02/2014 18:05, Stroller wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to > perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local > copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. I don't sync as user alan, I l

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov wrote: > Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Gleb Klochkov
Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. 10.02.2014 20:07 пользователь "Stroller" написал: > Hello all, > > I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to > perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local > copy of the portage tree wit

[gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. User is in the portage group: $ whoami stroller $ groups stroller wheel audi