Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu 18 August 2011 14:36:26 Michael Mol did opine thusly: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > > Am 18.08.2011 03:35, schrieb Michael Mol: > >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> On Wed 17 August 2011 17:23:41 Michael Mol did opine thusly: > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 August 2011, at 01:18, Adam Carter wrote: > … I … use a couple of free secondaries … > http://www.everydns.net). Only for the next 14 days. I'll check out twisted4life.com but would grateful for any other suggestions. There's no money in free DNS, unfortunately. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Jarry
On 18-Aug-11 20:22, Grant wrote: Just to counter all of the scary stories, I do run dns with www on the same server (in addition to ftp, mail, and a few more things), but each of those services in its own vserver-guest... Are those vserver-guest instances for security? I didn't know people u

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Grant wrote: >> I do run dns with www on the same server (in addition to ftp, >> mail, and a few more things), but each of those services in >> its own vserver-guest... >> >> Jarry > > Are those vserver-guest instances for security?  I didn't know people > used tho

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 18.08.2011 03:35, schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >>> On Wed 17 August 2011 17:23:41 Michael Mol did opine thusly: >>> At a minimum they should be on different interfaces and preferably

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Grant
>>> Just to counter all of the scary stories, >> >> Yeah, i'd like to counter too. While the implications of getting it >> wrong are serious, technically its quite simple. I run my own DNS, and >> use a couple of free secondaries (http://www.twisted4life.com and >> http://www.everydns.net). > > The

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 18.08.2011 03:35, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> On Wed 17 August 2011 17:23:41 Michael Mol did opine thusly: >>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Grant wrote: I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my website, b

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jarry wrote: > > The same here. I have been running my own dns for about 2 years, > primary for a few domains. As secondaries I use twisted4life, > xname, afraid, nether, and rollernet. Never had any problem. > I did this mainly because my registrar had terrible we

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Jarry
On 18-Aug-11 2:18, Adam Carter wrote: Just to counter all of the scary stories, Yeah, i'd like to counter too. While the implications of getting it wrong are serious, technically its quite simple. I run my own DNS, and use a couple of free secondaries (http://www.twisted4life.com and http://www

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Grant
>> Just to counter all of the scary stories, > > Yeah, i'd like to counter too. While the implications of getting it > wrong are serious, technically its quite simple. I run my own DNS, and > use a couple of free secondaries (http://www.twisted4life.com and > http://www.everydns.net). everydns.net

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed 17 August 2011 17:23:41 Michael Mol did opine thusly: >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Grant wrote: >> > I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my >> > website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the sa

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 17 August 2011 23:51:12 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Long long ago (in the 90s) when a current colleague started working > here, he wanted access to the hidden primary (like your ns00). > > He was given a bare machine (no OS) with these instructions: > > It's 10am, by 4pm I want a name se

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread kashani
On 8/17/2011 5:18 PM, Adam Carter wrote: Just to counter all of the scary stories, Yeah, i'd like to counter too. While the implications of getting it wrong are serious, technically its quite simple. I run my own DNS, and use a couple of free secondaries (http://www.twisted4life.com and http://

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
Adding to success stories: I've deployed bind-9 on FreeBSD, Debian, and Arch. The most trouble was with Debian, what with the 'compositing trees' etc. The easiest was with FreeBSD. All three DNS servers are now in their eighth month of production, handling half of my company's NS needs. It's real

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Adam Carter
> Just to counter all of the scary stories, Yeah, i'd like to counter too. While the implications of getting it wrong are serious, technically its quite simple. I run my own DNS, and use a couple of free secondaries (http://www.twisted4life.com and http://www.everydns.net). The upsides of running

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Grant wrote: > I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my website, > but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same machine that runs > my website instead.  Would that be fairly trivial to set up and > maintain?  If so, which package should

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed 17 August 2011 15:08:09 kashani did opine thusly: > On 8/17/2011 2:43 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I'm just itching to type up the long list of horror stories I've > > stored from people doing their own DNS thinking it was real > > easy. > > > > But there's this little thing called an NDA a

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed 17 August 2011 14:49:29 Grant did opine thusly: > >> I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my > >> website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same > >> machine that runs my website instead. Would that be fairly > >> trivial to set up and maintain? If so,

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread kashani
On 8/17/2011 2:43 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm just itching to type up the long list of horror stories I've stored from people doing their own DNS thinking it was real easy. But there's this little thing called an NDA and it says I can't :-( heh, I think I can dredge one up for you that no on

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed 17 August 2011 17:23:41 Michael Mol did opine thusly: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Grant wrote: > > I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my > > website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same > > machine that runs my website instead. Would that be

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Grant
>> I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my >> website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same >> machine that runs my website instead.  Would that be fairly trivial >> to set up and maintain?  If so, which package should I use? > > The first question is Why? My

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed 17 August 2011 14:22:21 kashani did opine thusly: > On 8/17/2011 2:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wed 17 August 2011 13:56:10 Grant did opine thusly: > >> I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my > >> website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Grant wrote: > I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my website, > but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same machine that runs > my website instead.  Would that be fairly trivial to set up and > maintain?  If so, which package should

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread kashani
On 8/17/2011 2:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed 17 August 2011 13:56:10 Grant did opine thusly: I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same machine that runs my website instead. Would that be fairly trivial to set

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed 17 August 2011 13:56:10 Grant did opine thusly: > I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my > website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same > machine that runs my website instead. Would that be fairly trivial > to set up and maintain? If so, which packag

[gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-17 Thread Grant
I currently use a free service to host the DNS records for my website, but I'm thinking of running a DNS server on the same machine that runs my website instead. Would that be fairly trivial to set up and maintain? If so, which package should I use? - Grant