Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-05 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tuesday, July 5 at 11:27 (-0400), cov...@ccs.covici.com said: > I tried to use kms, but it conflicted with the nvidia driver and did > not > give me as much screen size in the console as uvesafb. Yeah, you can't use the nvidia driver and KMS at the same time. You'd have to use the nouveau d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-05 Thread covici
Albert Hopkins wrote: > > > On Monday, July 4 at 13:10 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: > > > Are you saying it does not require `xorg-x11'. > > > > Step 2) says in large type: > >`2. Installing Xorg' > > > > Then a big note in a green box later on says: > > > > , > > | Note: You could

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/05/2011 03:48 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras writes: [...] Harry wrote: So I'm a little confused. Nikos replied: The guide deals with how to make X.Org use KMS. That does not mean that KMS requires X. For your X-less machine, all you need to do is enable the driver for yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On Monday 04 July 2011 14:15:12 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: > >>> I'm curious, however, about my Gentoo VMs. Can KMS run on a VM's >>> kernel and do anything useful there? This is more

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras writes: [...] Harry wrote: >> So I'm a little confused. Nikos replied: > The guide deals with how to make X.Org use KMS. That does not mean > that KMS requires X. For your X-less machine, all you need to do is > enable the driver for your card in the kernel config, and make

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2011 14:15:12 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> I'm curious, however, about my Gentoo VMs. Can KMS run on a VM's >> kernel and do anything useful there? This is more for learning and >> not about any practical need at this ti

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 23:34:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I'm curious, however, about my Gentoo VMs. Can KMS run on a VM's > > kernel and do anything useful there? This is more for learning and > > not about any practical need at this time. > > From my understanding, this topic gets yucky. T

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 14:15:12 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2011 13:47:28 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: > >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon > >> so does bootsplash run using framebuffer or is it compl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2011 13:47:28 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> > On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> >> > The way I've been doing this only required `ves

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 13:47:28 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: > >> > The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or > >> > `uvesa' and some special kernel line stuff. No

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> > The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or `uvesa' and >> > some special kernel line stuff.  None of the X related stuff is >> > necessary. >> > >> > From covici's po

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: > > The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or `uvesa' and > > some special kernel line stuff. None of the X related stuff is > > necessary. > > > > From covici's post... I think I may need to say uvesa where I've > > been sa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 4 at 13:10 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: > Are you saying it does not require `xorg-x11'. > > Step 2) says in large type: >`2. Installing Xorg' > > Then a big note in a green box later on says: > > , > | Note: You could install the xorg-x11 metapackage instead of the mo

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/04/2011 09:10 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Albert Hopkins writes: On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you to be running xorg. KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. Basically Xorg can let the kernel h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread covici
Harry Putnam wrote: > cov...@ccs.covici.com writes: > > >> I've been able to do this for years using VESA. > >> > > I use uvesafb and it works without X -- I get 60x164, depending on the > > resolution your mileage may vary. > > If it done in the kernel line of grub.conf? I realize it must

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Albert Hopkins writes: > >> On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: >>> this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you >>> to be running xorg. >> >> KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it.  Basically

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Harry Putnam
cov...@ccs.covici.com writes: >> I've been able to do this for years using VESA. >> > I use uvesafb and it works without X -- I get 60x164, depending on the > resolution your mileage may vary. If it done in the kernel line of grub.conf? I realize it must be enabled in kernel and I have done t

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Hopkins writes: > On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: >> this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you >> to be running xorg. > > KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. Basically Xorg can let the > kernel handle graphics mode setting and get

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-03 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: > this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you > to be running xorg. KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. Basically Xorg can let the kernel handle graphics mode setting and gets out of the way. But KMS doesn

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-03 Thread covici
Harry Putnam wrote: > Albert Hopkins writes: > > > On Sunday, July 3 at 16:39 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: > > > >> I've been booting with a framebuffer for some time. So long that I > >> fear my kernel line may be out of date. > >> > > > > A lot of people nowadays are using KMS. It's the one

[gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert Hopkins writes: > On Sunday, July 3 at 16:39 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: > >> I've been booting with a framebuffer for some time. So long that I >> fear my kernel line may be out of date. >> > > A lot of people nowadays are using KMS. It's the one true way™ for > doing console/X mode se