Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-18 Thread William Kenworthy
On 19/01/13 06:36, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:08:50 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > By default, ntpd doesn't seem to want to do a step correction to fix large clock errors on startup (there's probably an option for that). >>> >>> That's for ntp-client to do.

[gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-01-18, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:08:50 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> >> By default, ntpd doesn't seem to want to do >> >> a step correction to fix large clock errors on startup (there's >> >> probably an option for that). >> > >> > That's for ntp-client to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:08:50 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> By default, ntpd doesn't seem to want to do > >> a step correction to fix large clock errors on startup (there's > >> probably an option for that). > > > > That's for ntp-client to do. > > In additon to being a server, ntpd _

[gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-01-17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:47:17 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> By default, ntpd doesn't seem to want to do >> a step correction to fix large clock errors on startup (there's >> probably an option for that). > > That's for ntp-client to do. In additon to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:47:17 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > By default, ntpd doesn't seem to want to do > a step correction to fix large clock errors on startup (there's > probably an option for that). That's for ntp-client to do. -- Neil Bothwick Everything should be made as simple as p

[gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-01-17, Stroller wrote: > > On 16 January 2013, at 16:43, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I'm having problems with one of my Gentoo systems who's motherboard >> clock is a little slow. When the system comes up, the system time is >> set from the motherboard clock. If that's slow, something in t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:45:13 -0600 Bruce Hill wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:35:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: > > > > I already had that set. :) I'm not talking about clearing the screen > > at the login prompt; it clears mid-OpenRC during/after the udev step > > (as Grant also described)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:35:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: > > I already had that set. :) I'm not talking about clearing the screen > at the login prompt; it clears mid-OpenRC during/after the udev step > (as Grant also described), though in my case it does not halt but > continues printing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:29:04 -0600 > Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Grant Edwards >> wrote: >> > >> > But, in the failures I've been seeing today, it's not getting to >> > agetty. The "clear screen and halt" happe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> So it is Linux' fault, that your mate used crap Hardware? That is great! > let us blame it for the weather too. And stubbed toes. Well the point was that if OpenBSD had an auto update function I could have installed that and he would still be using OpenBSD happily. If Linux did what OpenBSD does

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
So it is Linux' fault, that your mate used crap Hardware? That is great! let us blame it for the weather too. And stubbed toes. Am 16.01.2013 21:43 schrieb "Kevin Chadwick" : > > I have had systems in the past who refused to boot because the > > motherboard time was off, and at first it looked lik

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:29:04 -0600 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Grant Edwards > wrote: > > > > But, in the failures I've been seeing today, it's not getting to > > agetty. The "clear screen and halt" happens at the "waiting for udev > > events" step... > > FWIW I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I have had systems in the past who refused to boot because the > motherboard time was off, and at first it looked like that was the > problem again. OpenBSD takes the time from the filesystem in that case and boots. I wish linux did. I had a mate who used to ring me up everytime his mother in la

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > But, in the failures I've been seeing today, it's not getting to > agetty. The "clear screen and halt" happens at the "waiting for udev > events" step... FWIW I have also noticed on my machine that somewhere in the middle of the OpenRC boo

[gentoo-user] Re: System won't boot if CMOS clock is slow

2013-01-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-01-16, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 04:43:16PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I'm having problems with one of my Gentoo systems who's motherboard >> clock is a little slow. When the system comes up, the system time is >> set from the motherboard clock. If that's slow, some